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 7 years ago '09        #141
CutKidd21 7 heat pts
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 ttime236 said:
Lmao Cutkidds a dumbass. Rodgers is a far better qb than Ryan. If your so obsessed with comparing Brady and Ryan based on 'numbers', then you should have no problem seeing that Rodgers numbers are wayyy better than Ryans

cant wait to see the falcons overrated a.ss get bounced come playoff time:cool-smiley-009:
shut the f**k up you nobody

I wipe my a.ss with your opinion on anything
 7 years ago '09        #142
CutKidd21 7 heat pts
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 MY_name said:
Hey I didn't make the RBs making teams tick point

But Turner is a top ten back and helps the ATL offense a lot

Those other teams you mentioned aren't as balanced as the Falcons all around
For sure it does. I don't even think Ryan is elite but he's on his way and if you go back and check prior threads I've said that but with what he's done on a franchise that was left to sh*t after vick and petrino, to put him in the conversation isn't unbelievable. He's not even in his prime yet so he's got time to make people believers
 01-04-2011, 09:08 PM         #143
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Well I guess he might be #5 but thats with quiet a bit of a bump from him being on a winning game

Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rivers
Ben, Rodgers

So second tier but clearly not elite...

And how am I hating? Ben didn't win those SBs by himself did he? Did throwing for 120 yards win him that first one
 7 years ago '07        #144
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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 CutKidd21 said:
shut the f**k up you nobody

I wipe my a.ss with your opinion on anything

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s**t aint that serious man, stop being a homer
 7 years ago '09        #145
CutKidd21 7 heat pts
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 ttime236 said:

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s**t aint that serious man, stop being a homer

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i'm mad

got me

and you're right it's not that serious
 01-04-2011, 09:18 PM         #146
-BigC- 
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Sure they all did, but they also carry their teams a lot more then Ben does. Ben had 1 elite season where his went 8-8 . The team doesn't need Ben to be good, yet he gets so much credit from people for winning...
 7 years ago '04        #147
finishim 80 heat pts80
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 CutKidd21 said:
sophomore slump

and if RB's make teams tick then why aren't the texans,vikings, jags, browns in the playoffs?????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????
you're missing the point, it's not that all running backs make their team tick, it's that, in the short history of the turner/Ryan era, when turner is gone or having a bad day, it usually doesn't end well for the falcons
 7 years ago '09        #148
CutKidd21 7 heat pts
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 finishim said:
you're missing the point, it's not that all running backs make their team tick, it's that, in the short history of the turner/Ryan era, when turner is gone or having a bad day, it usually doesn't end well for the falcons
oh really? cuz we sure as hell have won ALOT more than we've lost and Turner isn't beast mode every game he plays in
 7 years ago '04        #149
finishim 80 heat pts80
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it's funny how each homer loves to play his argument into what his qb does best no one ever wins
 7 years ago '09        #150
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I would really like to see what numbers rodgers puts up with just jennings and finley and no other weapons to throw to

You guys have nelson, james, and driver
 7 years ago '04        #151
finishim 80 heat pts80
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 CutKidd21 said:
I would really like to see what numbers rodgers puts up with just jennings and finley and no other weapons to throw to

You guys have nelson, james, and driver
really? just cuz he knows how to spread it around to his "weapons" you're gonna knock him?

sorry Ryan only throws to two
 01-04-2011, 09:44 PM         #152
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 Steelerfan1 said:
1 Elite Season

So stats equal elite seasons
Do quarterbacks play defense? Because until they do the way all QBs should be measured is by stats...

And yes Big Ben did play well vs the Cardinals. But its not like the Cardinals had any defense McNabb went for 375 against them so . I give him credit he played well but lets look at the 2008 playoffs...

Big Ben vs Rivers

Rivers 300 yards 3 TDs
Ben 180 yards 1 TD

But Ben>Rivers?
 7 years ago '05        #153
Stupendamatic 117 heat pts117 OP
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 stillers09 said:
Our defense did win the first superbowl for us....everytime this subject comes up non-steeler fans always say the same thing "your D won bof superbowlz!!!!!" watch this video and tell me who won superbowl 43 for us....

Santonio Holmes

All kidding aside, Ben was impressive.
 01-05-2011, 07:44 AM         #154
HUGGIEMONEY 
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this list on the floor
 7 years ago '07        #155
Eddie..|M 12 heat pts12
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I guarantee even Flacco read this like

complete jokes of analyst are running around giving brainless opinions
 7 years ago '07        #156
Eddie..|M 12 heat pts12
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 -BigC- said:
Do quarterbacks play defense? Because until they do the way all QBs should be measured is by stats...

And yes Big Ben did play well vs the Cardinals. But its not like the Cardinals had any defense McNabb went for 375 against them so . I give him credit he played well but lets look at the 2008 playoffs...

Big Ben vs Rivers

Rivers 300 yards 3 TDs
Ben 180 yards 1 TD

But Ben>Rivers?
that was one game where ben didn't need to do much.........
 7 years ago '07        #157
Eddie..|M 12 heat pts12
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Man even if I rode pine for a sb winnin team I'd still party like I won the MVP of the game lmao

I'd be out there shakin champagne bottles and yelling til I couldn't breathe
 01-05-2011, 10:44 AM         #158
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Vick should be higher, but other than that it's not a bad list.
 7 years ago '05        #159
jay964 12 heat pts12
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12 elite qbs?
f**k outta here
 7 years ago '07        #160
Dope Bai 1 heat pts
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 beantown said:
So your argument is 1 regular season win

a championship won by the defense and a scrub WR making a fluke catch

and romo getting injured

which somehow makes eli>romo???

They are on the same level, overrated. Both are dependent on their team around them, not the other way around where the team is reliant on them. Honestly it could go either way in my mind, it all depends on who they have around them like I said but ur argument is terrible.
See the thing is, the defense is SUPPOSED to stop the other team. The WR are SUPPOSED to make catches. When you don't, you loose -0 football is about making plays - fluke or not. Eli still had to get away from your D to make the throw. He still has to make an accurate throw. He still had to lead his team in the 4th against an unbeaten team in the SB for the win. Hate all you want, but you cannot deny the facts.

Not to mention the run Eli had the whole playoffs that year. On road against the div winning Buc's, on road against the div winning Boys (against romo) on road against the div winning Packers. Then against y'all. The whole time he threw I believe 2 INTs (i could be wrong - but it ain't more than 2)

Don't try to take that away from him. What has Romo done???? 1 playoff win??? On, year in and year out one of the most talented teams in the L???? A lot of y'all clowning on the Giants failures this year, but how soon we forget that nuff heads were saying we sucked to begin with in the offseason, whereas nuff heads were calling the boy's the SB favs...

Whats more of a fail a team that sucks and finishes 10 - 6 barely missing the playoffs, or a team that finished 6- 10, that was supposed to win the div and g to the SB??? Remember when Romo was in, they were 1 - 6, and finished 6 - 10 with they back up...
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