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 01-06-2011, 09:47 AM         #321
texasplayboy_23 
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 Illstreet said:
We'll keep doing that while yall keep riding that one playoff win Since The Notorious B.I.G. died...

And Hov will die before you make another Championship.
 01-06-2011, 09:49 AM         #322
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 smokeweed101. said:
Maybe my a.ss, be serious.
He actually had "no one can" before common sense took over and made him add Brady.
 7 years ago '08        #323
Gmengfx 75 heat pts75
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I MEAN BESIDES

JORDANS RINGS



WTF DID HE DO?


besides kobes rings..what has he really done?


besides bens 2 rings...what has he really done?

besides tom bradys rings..wtf has he done?


butt...buttt...rodgggerrrsssss....

had a greattttt year....last year...GOAT

rivers...omg..RIVERS!!! best to ever do it



boxden in a nut shell
 01-06-2011, 09:51 AM         #324
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
And Hov will die before you make another Championship.
Me = Talking about reality and what has really happened

You = Getting your Ms. Cleo on predicting the Future

I guess you predicted yall going like 1-6 with Romo this year too huh?
 01-06-2011, 09:52 AM         #325
Illstreet 
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 Gmengfx said:
I MEAN BESIDES

JORDANS RINGS



WTF DID HE DO?


besides kobes rings..what has he really done?


besides bens 2 rings...what has he really done?

besides tom bradys rings..wtf has he done?


butt...buttt...rodgggerrrsssss....

had a greattttt year....last year...GOAT

rivers...omg..RIVERS!!! best to ever do it



boxden in a nut shell
... Props Given...
 01-06-2011, 09:54 AM         #326
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 Illstreet said:
Me = Talking about reality and what has really happened

You = Getting your Ms. Cleo on predicting the Future

I guess you predicted yall going like 1-6 with Romo this year too huh?
You still lost to a team with that pitiful record and Jon Kitna...that current enough for you?
 7 years ago '05        #327
QPakaQ 3 heat pts
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Aight I might've been reaching a little with Vick and Peyton but not much in my opinion as far as this year is concerned...

And smokeweed101 if Vick isn't top 10 this year then Eli damn sure don't belong top 10...and if Flacco doesnt deserve top 10 then explain to me how Ryan does...

Like I said I'm not saying y'all crazy if y'all don't think Flacco is top 10 I'm saying y'all crazy if y'all think it's really that big of a gap between Ryan and Flacco...
 01-06-2011, 09:57 AM         #328
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 smokeweed101. said:
Maybe my a.ss, be serious.
I think the way Brady plays and the way Peyton plays are different...

I don't think of Brady as a guy who stands still in the Pocket and just picks apart Defenses like Peyton...

I think of Brady more as a guy who is comfortable adapting...

I can't really explain what I mean by that, but Peyton is more Pocket to me which is what I was describing... And Brady is something else.

He's obviously not a mobile QB... But he moves comfortably.

Where Manning is better when he doesn't move, and he just drops and Throws...

You know what I'm saying and trying to get at...
 01-06-2011, 09:57 AM         #329
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
He actually had "no one can" before common sense took over and made him add Brady.
Brady can do everything Peyton can, only thing is he is better under pressure and more careful with the football.
 01-06-2011, 09:58 AM         #330
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
You still lost to a team with that pitiful record and Jon Kitna...that current enough for you?
So did a few very good teams...

The Boys were a very different team once that idiot Wade was gone...
 01-06-2011, 09:59 AM         #331
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 Gmengfx said:
I MEAN BESIDES

JORDANS RINGS



WTF DID HE DO?


besides kobes rings..what has he really done?


besides bens 2 rings...what has he really done?

besides tom bradys rings..wtf has he done?


butt...buttt...rodgggerrrsssss....

had a greattttt year....last year...GOAT

rivers...omg..RIVERS!!! best to ever do it



boxden in a nut shell
You actually have to have a "great team" to win multiple rings within a certain period of time, retard.

Attempting an argument that doesn't relate...dumb@ss in a nut shell.
 01-06-2011, 10:01 AM         #332
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 QPakaQ said:
Aight I might've been reaching a little with Vick and Peyton but not much in my opinion as far as this year is concerned...

And smokeweed101 if Vick isn't top 10 this year then Eli damn sure don't belong top 10...and if Flacco doesnt deserve top 10 then explain to me how Ryan does...

Like I said I'm not saying y'all crazy if y'all don't think Flacco is top 10 I'm saying y'all crazy if y'all think it's really that big of a gap between Ryan and Flacco...
Well I am looking at the past few years, this year, potential etc. Because as far as this year it is simple, just go to the stats and its objectively listed.

If you look at the whole picture Flacco and Ryan are probably not up there and neither is Vick. Eli is a better QB than all three imo as is Cassel. Flacco and Ryan are both game managers so if Rice/Turner went down I wouldn't dare trust them, I think Cassel has a little more to prove since his two good seasons were with running games so he is bottom of the top 10 or so, Eli can produce though he is just an idiot with risk taking.
 7 years ago '07        #333
Dope Bai 1 heat pts
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
Like I was getting at before, keep riding that '07 scooter til he retires w/o getting to another ring. And don't act like your D wasn't beastin that year...Eli didn't carry y'all whatsoever.
Eli still had to lead the O downfiled in the 4th for the SB winning drive
 01-06-2011, 10:02 AM         #334
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 Illstreet said:
So did a few very good teams...

The Boys were a very different team once that idiot Wade was gone...
That may be true, but the Giants had something to play for...no excuse for getting beat by us w/o Romo.
 01-06-2011, 10:04 AM         #335
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 Dope Bai said:
Eli still had to lead the O downfiled in the 4th for the SB winning drive
Yeah, that he did and can Romo do the same remains to be seen. My point is that most of you don't hold Eli accountable for the sh*t he does NOW b/c of that 1 great season.
 01-06-2011, 10:05 AM         #336
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 Illstreet said:
I think the way Brady plays and the way Peyton plays are different...

I don't think of Brady as a guy who stands still in the Pocket and just picks apart Defenses like Peyton...

I think of Brady more as a guy who is comfortable adapting...

I can't really explain what I mean by that, but Peyton is more Pocket to me which is what I was describing... And Brady is something else.

He's obviously not a mobile QB... But he moves comfortably.

Where Manning is better when he doesn't move, and he just drops and Throws...

You know what I'm saying and trying to get at...
That is because of the receivers, Brady's guys take more time to get open so he has to avoid the rush more, reason why Peyton is first in sacks taken.

But as far as accuracy, smarts, leadership, skill you name it they are both neck and neck, what puts Brady first for me is the ball security, he has never came close to throwing 17 or 20 like Peyton has a few times, he also allows the run game to get going these two things make it easier for the defense to rest and the offense to produce points.
 01-06-2011, 10:07 AM         #337
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
You actually have to have a "great team" to win multiple rings within a certain period of time, retard.

Attempting an argument that doesn't relate...dumb@ss in a nut shell.
In 2008, the Giants were 11-1 and the best team in the NFL(and had beaten all of the eventual final 4 teams: Ravens, Cardinals, Eagles and the Steelers in Pittsburgh)...

That was ofcourse until Plaxico shot himself in the goddamn leg and our players became very distracted and our offense became unbalanced.

In 2008, The Giants were extremely good football team... Without question better than the 2007 team.

Smh @ Plax...

Love the dude, but he really fukked us.
 01-06-2011, 10:08 AM         #338
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
Yeah, that he did and can Romo do the same remains to be seen. My point is that most of you don't hold Eli accountable for the sh*t he does NOW b/c of that 1 great season.
Where would that put him? Manning and Brees throw several picks too and each have one ring, Ben Flacco Ryan manage the game with help, there isn't many guys ahead of Eli. He is somewhere around 5-8.
 01-06-2011, 10:09 AM         #339
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
That may be true, but the Giants had something to play for...no excuse for getting beat by us w/o Romo.
I agree... Us loosing that game was unacceptable.
 7 years ago '07        #340
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 texasplayboy_23 said:
You still lost to a team with that pitiful record and Jon Kitna...that current enough for you?
Really??? Y'all went 5- 3 and played some damn good football after going 1 - 6. You won 2 games with your thrid string QB...
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