ESPN: Ranking NFL Starting Quarterbacks

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 7 years ago '08        #261
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 CutKidd21 said:
You have better weapons. Don't know why that's so hard for you to admit

Ryan does more with less


white >>>> any wr on packers...

turner >>>> any rb on packers....

gonzalez >>>>> any te on packers this year....

and their oline is much better than packers....

so how exactly does he do more with less?
 7 years ago '09        #262
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 MY_name said:
For you to talk all this "woulda coulda" s**t...

You do an awful lot of what ifs... (though you didn't do it in this post)

Are you saying that Ryan is better than Rodgers? Or Rivers?
I'm not saying ryan is better. I've never once said that. It just not unbelievable to put him in the discussion like these dudes are tryin to make it seem

I've said multiple times ryan isn't elite but he's on the way. Rivers and Rodgers have been in the league 3+ years longer than ryan. They should be compared to brady and manning, which they fall FAR short of. Not Flacco and ryan which for some reason rodgers is compared with our young QBs
 7 years ago '09        #263
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 regularjoe said:
Well no s**t.
Ok, that's my point
 7 years ago '04        #264
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 CutKidd21 said:
I'm not saying ryan is better. I've never once said that. It just not unbelievable to put him in the discussion like these dudes are tryin to make it seem

I've said multiple times ryan isn't elite but he's on the way. Rivers and Rodgers have been in the league 3+ years longer than ryan. They should be compared to brady and manning, which they fall FAR short of. Not Flacco and ryan which for some reason rodgers is compared with our young QBs
Rodgers is a year older than those "young" qbs you idiot, and yes he was around for three years before but he only started three years ago, do you really think the learning curve is that much diff now that Ryan has been around for three years starting now?
 7 years ago '04        #265
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chad henne is way tooooo high but the sad part is he had a better year than sanchez


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 7 years ago '04        #266
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 KiNgJaMeS305 said:
chad henne is way tooooo high but the sad part is he had a better year than sanchez


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 7 years ago '04        #267
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 7 years ago '09        #268
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 finishim said:
Rodgers is a year older than those "young" qbs you idiot, and yes he was around for three years before but he only started three years ago, do you really think the learning curve is that much diff now that Ryan has been around for three years starting now?
I don't care about his age. He's been in the league for 6 years, double what matt ryan has
 01-05-2011, 08:28 PM         #269
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So your argument is that there close enough to be compared? They really aren't that close though check the stats
 7 years ago '04        #270
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 CutKidd21 said:
I don't care about his age. He's been in the league for 6 years, double what matt ryan has
keep making excuses to why Ryan hasn't been as good buddy, hope sooooo bad we beat the eagles so we can come to Atlanta n kick his dink n dunk a.ss
 7 years ago '04        #271
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 -BigC- said:
So your argument is that there close enough to be compared? They really aren't that close though check the stats
posted earlier by me, Rodgers is responsible for 30 more tds and 20 les ints

Ryan wins inthe w-l category, but that is the most skewed way to judge a qb three years in
 7 years ago '09        #272
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 finishim said:
keep making excuses to why Ryan hasn't been as good buddy, hope sooooo bad we beat the eagles so we can come to Atlanta n kick his dink n dunk a.ss
how you gonna talk about come and kick Atlanta's a.ss when we beat you in Green Bay and in Atlanta. Shut the f**k up with that s**t talking until you actually win ONE. You guys haven't beaten us in a long time
 7 years ago '09        #273
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 -BigC- said:
So your argument is that there close enough to be compared? They really aren't that close though check the stats
This is the exact post I'm talkin about but yet you try and act like your not biased.

Rodgers learned an offense in and out for 3 years and took over a team that went to the NFC championship


matt ryan took over a 4-12 team as a rookie so how in the f**k do you think their stats would look the same
 7 years ago '04        #274
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 CutKidd21 said:
how you gonna talk about come and kick Atlanta's a.ss when we beat you in Green Bay and in Atlanta. Shut the f**k up with that s**t talking until you actually win ONE. You guys haven't beaten us in a long time
you beat a gb team in gb, when our d gave up 24 pts a game, and you guys won at home by a game winning fg, put in position by a facemask, but whatever boosts your confidence, we aren't scared of you, I'm more scared of the bears, saints and eagles honestly
 7 years ago '04        #275
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 CutKidd21 said:
This is the exact post I'm talkin about but yet you try and act like your not biased.

Rodgers learned an offense in and out for 3 years and took over a team that went to the NFC championship


matt ryan took over a 4-12 team as a rookie so how in the f**k do you think their stats would look the same
actually the offensive scheme has changed dramatically since Favre left, but again, you wouldn't know because you don't watch the packers
 01-05-2011, 08:35 PM         #276
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that is true. Rodgers had some dynamite WRs waiting for him when he stepped in
 7 years ago '09        #277
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 finishim said:
you beat a gb team in gb, when our d gave up 24 pts a game, and you guys won at home by a game winning fg, put in position by a facemask, but whatever boosts your confidence, we aren't scared of you, I'm more scared of the bears, saints and eagles honestly
woulda coulda
 7 years ago '09        #278
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 finishim said:
actually the offensive scheme has changed dramatically since Favre left, but again, you wouldn't know because you don't watch the packers


dramatically?

yeah. RIGHT.
 01-05-2011, 08:38 PM         #279
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Would you trade


Gonzalez, White and Turner

For

Finley, Jennings and Grant?
 7 years ago '04        #280
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 Got Cheeve? said:
that is true. Rodgers had some dynamite WRs waiting for him when he stepped in
he had Jennings, driver, and a sophomore James jones

jordy had just been drafted that year

Jennings just made the probowl for the first time WITH RODGERS and driver has only made it as an alternate, yet Ryan doesnt have weapons, but he has an allpro runningback, a hall of fame tight end and a likely all pro wr this year, be serious here, it's his fault for not spreading it around better
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