Happy Birthday To Da G.O.A.T A K A Jay-Z

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 7 years ago '04        #81
DJ Maximum|M 51 heat pts51
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 4REAL said:
You're only talking about the skills portion. What about the rest? The Best MC has the best body of work, originality, mic presence, skills, stage presence, work ethic, diversity/variety, influence, impact, appeal, etc. And lol at Pac made some good music. 2Pac has everything on the list. 2Pac has about 4-5 classics back to back to back and more. Jay-Z is not even a diverse MC. He releases the same style of songs for singles every time. Don't even put Jay-Z on Pac's level. You can call Pac overrated all you like. Every GOAT is overrated to an extent but it's funny how you try to call one person overrated while defending Jay-Z who himself is overrated.
i love pac but to say jay is not diverse is crazy look @ his last couple of singles nothing sounds like it @ all and if u look @ it jay has all those qualities as well, pac didnt go out of his genre and do songs with rock artists so your diversity and variety point is flawed pac had alot of the same records as well. and yes jay is on pacs level and personally overall i think hes better but thats my opinion but to say he doesnt have the most influence impact appeal right now u got to crazy
 12-04-2010, 06:33 AM         #82
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Everyone knows having the most money = GOAT. Everyone knows Joe Budden can never be better than Jay because his money doesn't add up.
 12-04-2010, 06:36 AM         #83
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happy birthday jay-Z
 12-04-2010, 06:38 AM         #84
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Nas catalog

Illmatic: 5/5
It Was Written: 4.5/5
I Am: 2.5/5
Nastradamus: 1.5/5
Stillmatic: 4/5
Lost Tapes: 4/5
God’s Son: 3/5
Streets Disciple: 2.5/5
HHID: 3.5/5
Untitled: 4/5
Distant Relatives: 4/5


Jay Catalog

Reasonable Doubt: 4.5/5
Vol 1: 3.5/5
Vol 2: 2.5/5
Vol 3: 2.5/5
Dynasty: 2.5/5
BP1: 5/5
BP2: 3/5
Black Album: 4.5/5
Kingdom Come: 2.5/5
American Gangster: 4/5
BP3: 3.5/5

Both artists have a lot of classic songs and are obviously two of the best who have ever done it, but much of their discography gets overrated by people around here. Anyway, happy birthday to Hov!
 7 years ago '06        #85
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Hova is the Goat.... hands down... I mean where he has elevated himself in the bigger picture of the game of life only seperates him from every other rapper living... I am not mentioning those supposed resting in Heaven... Pac and Big.... But Jigga you gotta love the dude... or hate....

Is it better to have had and lost, or is it worst not having at all? Hov...
 12-04-2010, 06:48 AM         #86
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I just don't understand how people can crown someone as the greatest of all time. When you actually think about, there are too many variables, too many things you can't measure. You just can't list albums and expect people to agree with you. There is no way of judging this.
 7 years ago '05        #87
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I would of never knew it was his birthday if i didn't come looking for music today

quit riding jay-z d!ck so hard
 7 years ago '08        #88
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 kuruption said:
That's because he's 41......
i know that.....he looks more than 41. :slap:
 7 years ago '08        #89
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why cant yall just wish the man a happy birthday and leave without arguing over whos better or whos not :slap:
 7 years ago '05        #90
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 THaXcEpTiOnAL1 said:
I would of never knew it was his birthday if i didn't come looking for music today

quit riding jay-z d!ck so hard
if you're a jay fan you would know his birthday is today...it has nothing to do with being a d!ck rider...maybe you should stop hating
 7 years ago '08        #91
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 StrictlyBiznez said:
Still waiting on a valid argument on why he ain't the GOAT. Sure, Nas is a better lyricist but can he make a club banger or anything else apart from the same old flow over the same wack beats. Eminem HAD a better flow but far too inconsistent to be considered. Pac is hella overrated IMO, made some good music but he's no better than a 3stacks or Immortal Tech, defo not GOAT. Jay delivered some of the greatest albums and is the most versatile MC. You want a club banger> Dirt Off Your Shoulder Street Anthem: Dirt Off and Hard Knock Life, you can search through his discography for any type of song.

PEOPLE on BX fail to remember ONE thing: the best rapper is that with the BEST lyrics, BEST flow, MOST mic presence, MOST originality. NOT just someone who can string a few thoughtful rhymes together.
And you fail to remember that Jay-Z doesn't even come close to having the best lyrics.....Flow is debatable....
 7 years ago '08        #92
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 DJ Maximum said:
Goat!!!!

Check the stats 40 year old still k!lling the rap game and remaining relevant?
If you mean he's the best in the game right now by k!lling the game, then you're wrong...And it's not hard to remain relevant when almost half of your career you were a business man...
 12-04-2010, 07:42 AM         #93
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n*ggas riding his d!ck like Charlie Sheen rode Gekko's d!ck, you see where that went?
 7 years ago '05        #94
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 Jade Yorker said:
If you mean he's the best in the game right now by k!lling the game, then you're wrong...And it's not hard to remain relevant when almost half of your career you were a business man...
diddy isnt relevant in hip hop right now , hov is relevant and is k!lling the game because at 40 he's still better then 95% of whats out there. whether or not he's the best is debatable and no reason to go in depth about
 7 years ago '04        #95
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 Jade Yorker said:
If you mean he's the best in the game right now by k!lling the game, then you're wrong...And it's not hard to remain relevant when almost half of your career you were a business man...
hes been the most relevant artist since 98 man didnt do a hiatus except for the "retirement" even then he was still relevant dropped a lack luster album with kingdom come came back with a classic his body of work is unmatched
 7 years ago '10        #96
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Happy Birthday but he isn't the GOAT and never will be.
 7 years ago '09        #97
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hey since this is jay's birthday does this count as a "hump day" (no homo)


how many humps do camels have....1 or 2
 12-04-2010, 07:52 AM         #98
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 StateProperty88 said:
diddy isnt relevant in hip hop right now , hov is relevant and is k!lling the game because at 40 he's still better then 95% of whats out there. whether or not he's the best is debatable and no reason to go in depth about
It's easy to be good when you have creative control. You act like people actually want to hear nice emcees. If people wanted to hear nice emcees, we'd have them all over the radio and everywhere.

Only reason Hov is on right now, is, he enter the business when it was skyrocketing. Now it's declining.

You know how people say, "boy, if I would have invested in... I'd be rich now." This applies to Hov. Everything was flying off the shelf then.
 7 years ago '05        #99
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 Joe Budden said:
It's easy to be good when you have creative control. You act like people actually want to hear nice emcees. If people wanted to hear nice emcees, we'd have them all over the radio and everywhere.

Only reason Hov is on right now, is, he enter the business when it was skyrocketing. Now it's declining.
uh...what does this have to do with what i said?
 12-04-2010, 08:00 AM         #100
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 StateProperty88 said:
uh...what does this have to do with what i said?
You say he's better than 95% of the game. But people aren't demanding that the artist be lyrical. Hov selling his image, not his lyrics. All people every say is, "I respect Hov, he a hustler."
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