So how long we gonna pretend tom brady isnt miles ahead of manning

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 11-28-2010, 09:49 PM         #41
DrX  OP
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 shadymilkman said:
Brady is better this year. He wasn't better last year or the year before. Dr. X suck a d!ck you sound like ur pissed off.
some trailer park em stan telling me to suck a c*ck....how about u eat a d!ck...keep talking s**t and ill hide ur dad food stamps in his work boots..all of yall will starve
 7 years ago '10        #42
Nautilus O 18 heat pts18
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 DrX said:
some trailer park em stan telling me to suck a c*ck....how about u eat a d!ck...keep talking s**t and ill hide ur dad food stamps in his work boots..all of yall will starve




Took me a minute but damn that was cold
 7 years ago '04        #43
shadymilkman 10 heat pts10
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Telling a black joke to white guy = loss




y u so mad.
 7 years ago '04        #44
deonald 
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Im a colts fan but to make sense of this question we all mus realize that brady was backed up by a defense guru in bilichic whose defense ranked in top 5 on each of bradys superbowl wins. Peyton has never had a defense even in the top 20 including superbowl win. And its true brady plays in a system in new england manning is the system
 7 years ago '04        #45
shadymilkman 10 heat pts10
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food stamps in the work boots. It's a knock on blacks who won't get a job.




Brady dumps it off more than any QB. Matt Cassell led the pats to 10-6. They have a good system. Brady > Manning this year.
 7 years ago '06        #46
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 e G o Maniac said:
Then again, you could argue that Brady plays within a system, while Peyton IS the system.
/thread...
 7 years ago '06        #47
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 beantown said:
Brady's changed offensive coordinators about as much as anybody in the league, along with changing QB coaches multiple times too. And right now, the Patriots basically don't have an offensive coordinator, so Brady takes a lot of that responsibility on himself but they just don't see it so he doesn't get the credit for it.
same head coach.. same system
 11-28-2010, 10:05 PM         #48
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 991 said:
lets put it like this.

pats with brady out = still contenders
colts with manning out = one the worst teams in the nfl
well since you put it that way
 7 years ago '06        #49
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 Nautilus O said:
What do you base this off?

If you took tom brady off the pats, they would be cellar dwellers, if you take Peyton Manning off the colts, the offense coordinators actually have to start working, and they would be cellar dwellers.

If you take a star qb off his team, the team doesnt get better unless they play in minnesota
matt cassell effect... where have you been?
 7 years ago '10        #50
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 Nautilus O said:
What do you base this off?

If you took tom brady off the pats, they would be cellar dwellers, if you take Peyton Manning off the colts, the offense coordinators actually have to start working, and they would be cellar dwellers.

If you take a star qb off his team, the team doesnt get better unless they play in minnesota



 Gattsau said:
do some research look up how many playoff games bill has won without tom than get back to me.
And what have the Patriots done since that defense felll apart??

Better yet...how many Super Bowls have the Pats won without Adam Vinatieri......
 11-28-2010, 10:12 PM         #51
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 Nautilus O said:
What do you base this off?

If you took tom brady off the pats, they would be cellar dwellers, if you take Peyton Manning off the colts, the offense coordinators actually have to start working, and they would be cellar dwellers.

If you take a star qb off his team, the team doesnt get better unless they play in minnesota
If we take Brady off the Pats they still end up with a winning record and f!ghting for the playoffs . This isn't a hypothetical, we have seen it happen already...
 7 years ago '05        #52
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Can't go wrong either way. The teams they are on play completely different styles of football, im sure Brady would beast also with the Colts but he will throw more picks also as the Colts offense is nowhere as balanced as the Pats offense. The Patriots will always keep teams honest with an efficient running game as they will line up in double tights with a fullback and pound the rock while the Colts I don't even think they have a fullback on the roster.

Now the Colts will line up in ACE and Spread all game you can only run it so much outta those formations and it never gonna be as effective as lining up with a big TE and a fullback, so you throw the ball more you will throw more picks just the law of averages. And then when you get a team with a dominate d-line the single back run game is really gonna be a non factor which makes passing even more tough.

And of course if you replace Brady the Pats will still contend because a balanced offense is more QB friendly then a wide open spread offense you need a qb that knows what is going on all over the field to run that, and it only a few in the league who could.
 7 years ago '04        #53
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 Gattsau said:
they went 16-0 and made the sb 9-2 right now.

I knwo your not implying they lost to the giants due to not having adam

oh yeah great job dodging my question.
how dumb can you n*ggas be.



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 7 years ago '08        #54
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If Manning's a choke artist, can we say that Brady had the biggest choke job in SB 42?
 7 years ago '09        #55
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Peyton now moves to 22 td's and 11 picks for all the stat lovers, since that's all colt fans really pay attention to, stats.

Braadddyyy
 7 years ago '10        #56
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 niceguy954 said:
matt cassell effect... where have you been?
So you saying that if Matt cassell was on Indy he wouldn't have a had a good season in the same situation??
 11-28-2010, 10:20 PM         #57
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Matt Cassel in Indy would have 1-2 wins max

KC went 4-12 his first year, they are doing better this year because of the running game and defense not him. He got paid off of playing one year in that system
 7 years ago '10        #58
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 -BigC- said:
Matt Cassel in Indy would have 1-2 wins max

KC went 4-12 his first year, they are doing better this year because of the running game and defense not him. He got paid off of playing one year in that system
U either high or stupid?

1-2 wins???

 11-28-2010, 10:34 PM         #59
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I don't understand what your confused about...

Matt Cassel f**king sucks. Is that clear enough?
 7 years ago '04        #60
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Brady only choked once...that was in the SB against the Giants...you don't go from the best offense ever to getting shut down in the SB without you f**king up somewhere

but even then

Manning chokes even before getting there though
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