So how long we gonna pretend tom brady isnt miles ahead of manning

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 7 years ago '07        #281
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 smokeweed101. said:
How come Drew Bledsoe wasn't compatible with the system's chip doctor? Is it some kind of body type that is required? Will my son who is a little on the heavy side (albeit still a toddler) be able to match such requirements?
Bledsoe didn't have a terrible two years under Bill as HC not an a.ssistant.
 7 years ago '05        #282
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all i gotta say is it takes more than a "system" for a qb to win 3 superbowls, have multiple MVP seasons, throw 50 tds, throw the most passes without an int, and running no huddle in the spread formation and picking defenses apart

the cassel argument doesnt work because look what he did this year, the playoff game was against the ravens so dont base his whole season off one game
 7 years ago '07        #283
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 trb_5 said:
all i gotta say is it takes more than a "system" for a qb to win 3 superbowls, have multiple MVP seasons, throw 50 tds, throw the most passes without an int, and running no huddle in the spread formation and picking defenses apart

the cassel argument doesnt work because look what he did this year, the playoff game was against the ravens so dont base his whole season off one game
Even when Cassel had time he'd just hold onto the ball. I remember "someone" before said the Pats don't run a spread
 01-11-2011, 12:25 PM         #284
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 -BigC- said:
Because he sucked?Maybe he was to stupid? I don't know I just know a backup college QB almost made the playoffs despite not being the pre-season #1
Generally SB experience is better than HS experience, you can't provide a theory of such complex systematics without explaining it in more depth than this doctor.

I believe Drew Bledsoe still has more career yards than Tom Brady, it can't be summed up in such simple reasoning.
 01-11-2011, 12:33 PM         #285
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It does take more then to just be in a system to throw 50 TDs, but it doesn't take much more to be a good QB in that system . Brady is a great QB, but lets not act like hes playing on a level field with Peyton. Peyton is the system while Brady is benefiting from one. Brady could go on any team(besides probably the Redskins) and still be a top tier QB, but he wouldn't be winning games nor would he be getting some of the numbers he is.

Lets not act like Peyton didn't have as great of a year as Brady did during the 16-0 season, but instead of staying in the game Peyton came out of multiple games. He had 49 touchdowns with 80 less pass attempts . This debate over the two will never stop, but lets stop acting like because Peyton had an average type year while Brady is having one of the best of his career that it proves anything in this argument. Last year most of BX was talking about now the argument for Peyton is over since he went to the SB. Either way they are going to retire 1a 1b so lets stop acting like either is a lot better then the other .
 01-11-2011, 12:42 PM         #286
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 -BigC- said:
Brady is a great QB, but lets not act like hes playing on a level field with Peyton.
Brady is clearly above him and all QBs in that regard.

I cannot find any QB with 32 more TDs than INTs, or more than 33 TDs, or a QB rating over 110, those are the results of 'playing' as you clearly stated.


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 01-11-2011, 12:45 PM         #287
-BigC-  OP
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Well your biased as s**t so I won't even bother attempting to debate with you. There are other Boston fans who are reasonable at times, so I will just ignore your posts on this topic then
 01-11-2011, 12:45 PM         #288
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 -BigC- said:
Brady could go on any team(besides probably the Redskins) and still be a top tier QB, but he wouldn't be winning games
Mark Sanchez won 11 games, Cutler 11, Cassel 10, Rodgers 10. Not sure how Brady couldn't do the same.
 01-11-2011, 12:46 PM         #289
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 -BigC- said:
Well your biased as s**t so I won't even bother attempting to debate with you. There are other Boston fans who are reasonable at times, so I will just ignore your posts on this topic then
Yes and you are not bias. :rolleyes: Want a link to ignore my profile? I will provide it with ease.
 7 years ago '04        #290
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Smokeweed ur a d!ckhead but u dropping that ether all over the place
 01-11-2011, 01:14 PM         #291
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How am I biased? I don't like the Colts nor do I hate Tom brady . Can you say the same
 01-11-2011, 01:29 PM         #292
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 -BigC- said:
How am I biased?
Besides the multiple system references (still all talk with no backbone to support it), you just said Brady is not playing on the same level as Peyton (and I a.ssume by that you mean he is playing below him). Despite better numbers in each category against better defenses.

 -BigC- said:
I don't like the Colts nor do I hate Tom brady . Can you say the same
Of course, I don't like the Colts nor do I hate Tom brady .
 01-11-2011, 01:31 PM         #293
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Level playing field as in what they do is the same? Maybe I should of explained more i dunno...

Peyton is the offense while Brady is the key part in the offense.

And obviously I meant do you hate like anyone in the discussion...
 7 years ago '07        #294
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 smokeweed101. said:
Besides the multiple system references (still all talk with no backbone to support it), you just said Brady is not playing on the same level as Peyton (and I a.ssume by that you mean he is playing below him). Despite better numbers in each category against better defenses.



Of course, I don't like the Colts nor do I hate Tom brady .
He said they're on the same level.
 01-12-2011, 03:37 PM         #295
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manning need a system...has his play calling ever worked in the postseason? no


manning needs some offensive help...
 01-16-2011, 05:40 PM         #296
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3 rings vs one lucky one....stop reaching
 01-16-2011, 05:42 PM         #297
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Peyton >>>>> Brady
 7 years ago '07        #298
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Peyton had his team with the lead playing with f**kin 4th stringers.

Peyton will forever be a better player.
 7 years ago '08        #299
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 INF4MOUS said:


Peyton had his team with the lead playing with f**kin 4th stringers.

Peyton will forever be a better player.
Man, this is unbelievable. Let's see if the same rules apply to Brady.......
 01-16-2011, 06:32 PM         #300
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So Brady choked while Peyton had his team winning until a receiver who shouldn't of been in the game dropped the ball and then special teams gave the game away.

Lets stop acting like Brady is above Peyton
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