Nearly 10 Years Later No One Has Proven Any Of The Info In "Ether" Is False To This Day

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 7 years ago '04        #21
abstractq 5 heat pts
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And ima let karma catch up to Jaz-O!!!


rofl. . .thats the s**t that make ether so damn potent, cause some of that s**t was so personal that Nas had to have gotten it from a former friend


so not only is Nas s**ttin on you, but at the same time you know ya mans is feeding him


its enough to make a n*gga need to take a vacation
 7 years ago '07        #22
N.O.4Life 45 heat pts45
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 karr153 said:
Its TaeBo you remedial smucks. If anyone was around during 2000-2003 they know Billy Blanks and Tae Bo had the celebrity world on lock. I wouldn't find it hard to believe Jay was doing that s**t.
Calm down stan it was a joke.And where's the proof that he was in a Tae bo class?Plus at the end of the day Nas was working for Jay so.....Nas Lost.
 7 years ago '06        #23
NYC-Banga 107 heat pts107
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but nas started working for jay after.

jay is the biggest rapper in history of rap music right now

nas is f!ghting to get a b side album released.
 7 years ago '08        #24
Chief Dee 6 heat pts
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 GUNITZCAPO said:
like i been saying for years....if it wasnt for them philly n*ggas...jay wudnt be the goat he is today....although that beef was personal it left jay lookin weak...jay was smart enough to see this an aligned himself wit the streets jay wudnt hav survived pbp w/out beans n state prop...dat ether k!lled all cred jay had in da streets...jay was lookin like food to n*ggas like fif n kiss n prodigy n so on but u all will continue to praise him...jay sed he respect the shooter..but he ain pop nuthn n*gga stop frontin ether wasnt made up lies y u think jigga was talkn bout f**kin his babymoms n s**t cuz dem s**ts was facts bout each other period on them records
With all due respect, Ether had little to no effect on Jay's street persona. The preception was that Jay-Z lost a battle against a beast MC, nothing more nothing less. Nyggas who were Jay-Z fans prior to Ether were still Jay-Z fans after Ether. Jay had love in the streets before and after, and "U Dont Know" was in heavy rotation in the same time period as the battle with Nas was going on and was a street smash. Ether didnt effect the way nyggas viewed the Blueprint, and Takeover was still seen as a great diss record at the time despite him losing the battle.
 7 years ago '04        #25
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since when did ether even say anything other than random name calling? what exactly are people discussing being true or not?
 11-17-2010, 07:08 PM         #26
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 NYC-Banga said:
but nas started working for jay after.

jay is the biggest rapper in history of rap music right now

nas is f!ghting to get a b side album released.
you're talking about now, and we're talking about the damn diss record and who won the battle THEN....we're on plastic bags and you're on paper, stick with the plastic bags n*gga
 7 years ago '09        #27
UrbanEnterprise 62 heat pts62
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 nkflier54 said:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ether

"for i will not lose for even in defeat is a valuable lesson learned so it evens it up for me"

jay just admitted he lost, give it up, Nas>>>>>>>Jay
 11-17-2010, 07:09 PM         #28
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 nkflier54 said:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ether

no, and posting a jay-z smiley when you're the only one in here besides maybe 2 others that think jay won makes you look like a damn fool

we got like damn near 6-7 cats in here laughing at jay for that battle with jay smiley's and here you go by yourself, one man, just you, all alone, by yourself (no kevin heart) posting a jay smiley.
 7 years ago '07        #29
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Nas's lines should have citations with them.
 11-17-2010, 07:12 PM         #30
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 NYC-Banga said:
but nas started working for jay after.

jay is the biggest rapper in history of rap music right now

nas is f!ghting to get a b side album released.
#Facts..

Nas lost.
 Chief Dee said:
With all due respect, Ether had little to no effect on Jay's street persona. The preception was that Jay-Z lost a battle against a beast MC, nothing more nothing less. Nyggas who were Jay-Z fans prior to Ether were still Jay-Z fans after Ether. Jay had love in the streets before and after, and "U Dont Know" was in heavy rotation in the same time period as the battle with Nas was going on and was a street smash. Ether didnt effect the way nyggas viewed the Blueprint, and Takeover was still seen as a great diss record at the time despite him losing the battle.
#Preach
 nkflier54 said:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ether

Also correct.
 11-17-2010, 07:15 PM         #31
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the same people who think Takeover > Ether would probably say that Takeover ether'd Ether

nas won
 7 years ago '04        #32
KoKen 5 heat pts
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Wasnt Jay shown on his MTV Diary doing Taebo? I remember seeing a video of Jay doing that s**t
 7 years ago '05        #33
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 NYC-Banga said:
but nas started working for jay after.

jay is the biggest rapper in history of rap music right now

nas is f!ghting to get a b side album released.
The point is who had the better diss record, ol' going off into tangents a.ss n*gga
 7 years ago '04        #34
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Ether was dope but lets be real everybody roots for the underdog....

Takeover 1 verse @ nas that pretty much toy'd with him

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
n*gga; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the f*g model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, nasty Nas to Esco's trash

Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole f**kin song

but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
n*gga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song

And you ain't get a corn n*gga you was gettin f**ked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years n*gga? I could divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them s**ts was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! n*gga switch up your flow
Your s**t is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?

(Get the f**k outta here) You n*ggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you


i mean in this 1 verse did jay lie one time? this s**t was straight facts...
 7 years ago '04        #35
abstractq 5 heat pts
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you been in this ten, i been in it 5, smarten up nas = FALSE
 7 years ago '08        #36
Future 44 heat pts44
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This line ether'd camel....

"how my of biggie's rhymes gonna come out your fat lips"

Truest line spit in the diss.... s
 7 years ago '04        #37
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 CaliIsActive said:
False eminem is bigger and always has been bigger

Jay got him a better deal then he had before

Nas is still a multi millionaire after that the money just sits in ya account

so who really lost?

Nas catalouge will always be more relevant then Jays
I dont care how much u hate someone u know Nas catalog is not f**king with Jay's
 7 years ago '04        #38
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"I know who I paid. ..searchlite publishing" = FALSE


Serch came out and basically said Nas took the publishing rights from illmatic and didnt give him s**t for it

and basically called Nas a b**ch a.ss n*gga for that
 7 years ago '08        #39
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 DJ Maximum said:
Ether was dope but lets be real everybody roots for the underdog....

Takeover 1 verse @ nas that pretty much toy'd with him

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
n*gga; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the f*g model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, nasty Nas to Esco's trash

Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole f**kin song

but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
n*gga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song

And you ain't get a corn n*gga you was gettin f**ked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years n*gga? I could divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them s**ts was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! n*gga switch up your flow
Your s**t is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?

(Get the f**k outta here) You n*ggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you


i mean in this 1 verse did jay lie one time? this s**t was straight facts...
Nas being garbage is facts???? :wtf: :wtf:

Fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all??? really those are facts?? who decided it?? Or is camels opinion on where Nas ranke....

IWW was NAHHH???? It's a classic and one of the best albums....I guess that was a fact :rolleyes:

U stay suckin off camel :slap:
 7 years ago '10        #40
knowlege bass 
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This will go down as the greatest battle ever. It wasn't just hype beef either, this was real beef with a baby mama ho involved as well. I try to stay out of these threads because the argument is now moot but year after year I still see threads talking about this. Of course Jay brought it up himself in a recent interview which has re-sparked the debate. But it seems to never go away.

As far as the topic of the thread. I think "Ether" was a lot more exaggeration plus much more fury and anger. It likely had some facts because it really got under Jay's skin but much was exaggerated.
Takeover was more opinion than fact to me. It Was Written was a big album and in fact to many people Nas' intro to some people. Even though the next 2 albums were not well received by the heads, they still went plat and he was in the news with "Hate Me Now", "Owe Me", controversy over "Oochie Wally", and the whole Puffy and Steve Stoute thing. Around the time of "Takeover" though he had been quiet, because his mother was dying. So Jay's statements hit hard but not all the way factual either.
I also hate it when people say Nas worked for Jay-Z. No he worked for and still does work for L.A. Reid. Where Nas doesnt match up is in business and intelligence.
I think people a.ssume because Nas spits more "knowlege" that he's smarter, but even as a huge Nas fan I know he aint really that smart. He's been on a typical slave deal and doesn't have the savvy to do it himself. I actually think "Blueprint 2" and "Last Real N**ga Alive" are better all around records than both Takeover and Ether.


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