Kanye West ~ Runaway [Discussion Thread]

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 10-24-2010, 02:05 AM         #321
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 dragswizz said:
what a waste of alot of money....

maybe that was the point...

kanye is struggling with himself

he needs to snap outta this mid life crisis


This was one big album sampler. If this is a midlife crisis (he's in his 30s ) then I'd like to see what he'd do when he's over the hill.
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 Bronx Goes Hard said:


This was one big album sampler. If this is a midlife crisis (he's in his 30s ) then I'd like to see what he'd do when he's over the hill.
say he's gonna retire and then come back with 3 sub par albums

 10-24-2010, 02:07 AM         #323
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 dragswizz said:
say he's gonna retire and then come back with 3 sub par albums

at American Gangster being sub par.
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
Fact: Kanye West mentions the devil in 90% of the songs in this short movie.
So everybody is going to just disregard my post?
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
So everybody is going to just disregard my post?
Yes. Yes, they will...

Anyway, the movie sucks. I'm going to sleep.
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 Bronx Goes Hard said:
at American Gangster being sub par.




it wasn't progressive... and it wasn't an accurate representation of his " current state" which according to recent interviews

relatable, current , up to date music is what he wants from his peers...

shawn's always been a hypocrite on and off the mic...



its okay to make albums in lieu of and tell stories from your past... but A.G. was Reasonable Doubt paraphrased and consolidated

what was the name of that Sunshine Anderson song??
 7 years ago '04        #327
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 snippet said:
Here's the thing. That's awesome! But it's bulls**t. It's awesome because it reminds me of the overanalysis of old dead white men's art (paintings and literature). A good 75% of it is overinflated nonsense partially prompted by the vague imagery the artist purposefully places in front of the viewer for vastly different interpretations.

But it's bulls**t because all that is crap. Predictable crap at that.

But it is par for the course. Eddie Vedder (pearl jam) loved putting things in front of people that were vague. He'd get pressed to explain the meaning of a song and he would squirm out of it a lot of the time on the grounds of not wanting to shut down someone's individual interpretation of it.

So that makes your personal interpretation awesome - because that's your reality. But it's bulls**t because its a manufactured process from start to finish. Imogen Heap does it too - she puts a lot of vague chunks of meaning into her songs. I love her s**t, but it is formulated to mean anything to anybody.

So I fully applaud you and boo you for your awesome bulls**t story
I fully agree with you.... my first perception of this thing was

"an visual art students project with a million dollar budget"

The "aim" is to sell records. Fk all the bulls**t with the "i want to express myself". kanye wants to sell records. Not necessarily for money... but for acceptance and to get his point across.. Runaway is just another tool in a wider mechanism of devices.

I don't think Runaway is that great for a short music video film or whatever... i think its great for what a "rapper/producer" has done and the overall progression kanye has made since the college dropout even if it does leave a bad taste in your mouth.

As i said i agree with your take on it being "bulls**t", but to fully discredit kanye's thought process as "manufactured" is a bit ignorant IMO. "Manufactured" is going on the Ellen show saying you got your teeth removed for diamonds. I do think Kanye had some idea of "why" he wanted to show the things he did in Runaway, I just decided to TRY and decipher what i thought that may be.

Unfortunately thats what "Art" is. some dude once said...

"Good art tries to answer questions, Fine art makes you ask questions" What kanye's "art" is, is debatable ;)
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
So everybody is going to just disregard my post?
obviously you have the devil on your mind

we off that
 7 years ago '10        #329
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I DONT EVEN SEE HOW THE PEOPLE WERE JUDGING THE PHOENIX AND s**t...
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 renothebest said:
I DONT EVEN SEE HOW THE PEOPLE WERE JUDGING THE PHOENIX AND s**t...


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 renothebest said:
I DONT EVEN SEE HOW THE PEOPLE WERE JUDGING THE PHOENIX AND s**t...
Yeah, when she said "I hate that your world hates everything that's different, and they judge it", I thought, "wait... when did that ever enter the f*cking film at all?"
 7 years ago '08        #332
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 dragswizz said:
obviously you have the devil on your mind

we off that

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And obviously Kanye isn't off that if he says it in 90% of his songs on his album..
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:

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And obviously Kanye isn't off that if he says it in 90% of his songs on his album..
thats cuz he wants people to face him and overcome him... not dwell on him


maybe he's still doin that





and nah....


i will not come at you
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 dragswizz said:
thats cuz he wants people to face him and overcome him... not dwell on him


maybe he's still doin that





and nah....


i will not come at you

Hmmm.....Good point...but from a lyrical standpoint it doesn't seem that way...but I guess.
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
Hmmm.....Good point...but from a lyrical standpoint it doesn't seem that way...but I guess.
musical artists 9/10 times write about what they're battling in their minds
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 dragswizz said:
musical artists 9/10 times write about what they're battling in their minds
Stop coming at me, bro.
 10-24-2010, 02:35 AM         #337
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
Hmmm.....Good point...but from a lyrical standpoint it doesn't seem that way...but I guess.
I think he has a firm belief that the devil is tempting him and exploiting his weaknesses in order to destroy his soul. Sometimes he becomes his own devil in order to accomplish what needs to be done.

In the words of John Luther: "Do you ever worry about one day finding out you're on the Devil's side?"
 7 years ago '04        #338
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 Thef**kinEmpire said:
Stop coming at me, bro.


i expunged the devil from my soul a while back...

it takes time..

you'll get there.. if you want


but after you do... life's a little less fun

:(
 10-24-2010, 02:49 AM         #339
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 DaOmega_1 said:
Yeah, when she said "I hate that your world hates everything that's different, and they judge it", I thought, "wait... when did that ever enter the f*cking film at all?"
she was only one different at the dinner table?????????? DUHHHHHHHHHHH
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This is proof that satan has gotten to ye and the world that is praising him! This vid was total crap full of symbolism! The fact that she fell like a star from the heavens did not mean anything to yall? Have you all been pulled that far into the bs that you all think this is art? GOD HELP US ALL! Even worse... I actually liked this stuff at one point myself.:sad5: I am not a fan of ye or hip hop anymore... look what it has become!
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