Tupac stansss unitteee !!!
n*ggas is maaad n*ggas is maaaaaaad !
lmao all I'm saying is, tupac was man that played different roles based on the situation he was in (an over glorified follower? Perhaps?). If he was really on some black panther s**t he wouldn't even be on no bum a.ss gang tip to begin with. Suge told n*gga to dance and he danced.
As for the stanleys, plenty of 13 year olds saying f**k b**ches get money, plenty of em studying at home quietly, plenty of em pushin, and plenty of em that spend there time helping there grandma around the house. I don't get what point you're trying to make? Tupac isn't baby jesus, no need for his d!ck to be so far in your throat
And the other stan talmbout bla bla bla you aint got a past? n*gga I'm a regular dude. College, job, car, b**ches, friends. I'm not out here holding AK's and trying to portray an image of being hard to a confused and senseless fanbase, knowing damn well I used to jump around in tights dancing on my toes next to will smith's wife. C'mon son. Talmbout gay s3xtapes and bulls**t, step your game up youngster
you don't know s**t about the black panthers so please shut that s**t up
Clearly Pac's music changed with the events that were going on in his life. But, that's being real. His music was actually influenced by what his life was like at that moment. n*gga had n*ggas trying to k!ll him, so he felt. So not only was he f!ghting "the man" and "b**ches" who he felt did him wrong, now he's dealing with "gangstas" who he felt he never had to worry about. His life got G'd up real quick when his world did. That's not saying that he wasn't a "real" n*gga before, it's just that being a gangsta n*gga wasn't his all day/everything. But, if you don't think songs like Trapped and If My Homies Call ain't real s**t he was on, in his earlier days, then you trippin.
Hold That said:
I can post atleast 10+ songs at the top of my head, that will shut down the entire theory that Pac stopped making deep songs after getting bailed out.. If this is your basis of saying Pac wasn't "real" then you didn't follow him as closely as you think or want us too believe.
In fact he wrote more music, and more inspirational songs after he was bailed out... He just wrote more Club songs also.. Once Pac got out of prison this n*gga LIVED in the stuido as if he knew his time was running out.. So don't confuse him having more club songs now than he did pre-prison sentence that he somehow sold out, when if you look closely that he actually made MORE inspirational songs after he was out of prison..
Not too mention, PAC was smart, there's a reason why he made more gangster tracks, and it wasn't because of selling out or to get more money. He wanted to get more mainstream, and not for the reasons that most want today.. It's because if he constantly came out with "Brenda's got a baby" songs or "keep ya head up" on a whole CD, most real thugs and gangsta wouldn't buy it, and thus miss the important messages on Pac's album.. And thats who Pac was trying to reach the most, the gangsters who feel like they have NO OPTIONS living in OPPRESSED CONDITIONS..
Pac read over 20 books in prison(), like I keep saying he knew what he was doing and had a gameplan.
So you semi trick the consumer by thinking the Album will be on non stop hardcore s**t but insert positive thinking and uplifting in it also.. That way MORE of your target audience will buy the album and your true uplifting message WILL be heard and be heartfelt.. It worked, it wasn't selling out, it was a genius plan.
But n*ggas are too stupid too think outside the box and think Pac was just some ordinary n*gga, when he wasn't.. He planned everything out, he knew what he was doing and the effects, there's a reason why he's still considered ahead of his time, and a reason why he was murdered by the government.. it wasn't because of having gangster tracks.. His true message was starting to get out, and no government wants anyone starting or thinking about mutiny..
Pac never claimed the east coast during his career. Before death row he was more of a universal type of rapper. He did shout out Oakland alot. But he pretty much had a Oakland, Digitial Underground sound before death Row. The only time he really mentioned being from New York was in interviews defending his stance on the east coast west beef. He also mentioned it on 'Ol School" and "n*ggas Done Changed". He said "im east coast born, but west coast raised". And what Pac song was he thuggin for the sake of being a thug? He always had a revolutionary element in his music, even his hardcore songs. He exploited the thug thing to get more mainstream appeal and reach the thugs (thats who he was tryna help). A thug aint gonna listen to noone who aint livin that kind of lifestyle but Pac had that crediblity so when he talked they listened. Makaveli was on deathrow and that was similar to Me Against The World. If you listen closely you'll start to notice that Pac barely ever rapped in 1st person. He was always rapping stories about the lives his homies was living. Remember Pac was nothing more than a mouthpiece for people (a messenger).
From my understanding Pac and Suge had a common enemy. Suge's was Puff and Pac's enemy was BIG, Puff, and whoever else was in the studio that night he got shot plus Black Mafia. Suge and Puff's beef goes back a few years prior to Pac getting shot up and its deeper than music. A couple of Suge's friends was k!lled on Puffy's watch so Suge had a legitimate reason to not like Puff. Pac felt that BIG and them didn't look out for him while he was in New York. And Puff wasn't really letting BIG reach out to Pac to clear things up. But Pac didn't know that and the lack of communication from BIG's part confirmed what Pac had already believed about BIG. Plus, people in jail were also telling him that the Black Mafia dudes who were affialated with Bad Boy (BIG's people) were the ones that set him up.
So him and Suge and David Kenner had that infamous meeting in prison and the rest is history. Put yourself in his shoes. Remember Pac had no more money from the legal cases, he was the sole bread winner for his big family, he was in jail and people was threatening to k!ll him and no other label was trying to bail him out (1.5 million bail is a heck of an investment to make on someone who was considered a libability back then). What would you have done? They have a common enemy who happens to be one of the top labels in hip hop at the time and at that point Pac had a strategy on how to k!ll two birds with one stone (generate profit for greater causes + overthrow the "shady"east coast regime known as bad boy records). And Bad Boy records became that meal ticket.
Also I dont know if u remember but alot of people on the East Coast was throwing shots at Pac on Biggies behalf (Mobb Deep, Chino XL, Da Brat, The Fugee's, LL Cool J, Nas, Nature, Foxy, Nore, Puffy). Pac defended himself from a gang of East Coast artst so thats why it may have seemed like Pac hated the east coast. He planned on setting up a deathrow on the East Coast btw. How would you have handled the situation if it was you?
He wasn't happy with death Row because of the money situation but he wasn't trying to leave completetly. He was gonna seperate from them by starting Makaveli Records but be distributed by death Row. He went to Vegas that night to show that there was no bad blood between him and Suge lol.
BTW Pac's definition of M.O.B was Money Over B****s lol
Yeah he wasn't a martyr like the media makes him out to be. And he did help to popularize that kind of lifestyle but i dont believe that was his intentions. If anything his life should be a wake up call to how you dont want to live but the media does a good job of romanticizing his life. Like he said in Ressurection "Yeah thug life is a fad to the casual listeners but they'll drop it after a while cause its not for them, but for the people really living the thug life they get the message im tryna get across". He was wrong though.
BTW, Pac exposed himself on many occasions with things that would hurt the average rappers reputation (doing ballet, feminine ways growing up, love for poetry) so i dont believe that he was fake or had anything to hide.
these quotes right here s**ts on the threadstarter post..and he overlooks this s**t..which comes off to me as a shock value thread
let me be quite honest..I too at one point thought the same thing as you..because I listen to tha media or everbody else side of the story..then I started listening to the MAN himself..not just his music but the man outside the music n realized it was the same person.. Pac was a open book and was one of the "realist" rappers to grace hip-hop..when you get caugt up with these media stories about pac then u start to think like the threadstarter.. but if you listen to Pac in his own words..he raged no war on the eastcoast..his music changed a bit but not really..cuz even his commercial tracks had a message... he had commercial tracks before he went to jail any damn way so really he didn't change at all.. not to mention he went thru alot of s**t to alter his mind..M.O.B. ment Money Over b**ches.. Pac said this plenty of times in his songs..prove to me where Pac said he ment otherwise..