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 10-15-2010, 01:47 PM         #121
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 sniper1 said:
ridiculous at people saying to the black people to MOVE ON from the chains, kidnapping, r*pe, pregnancy, drugs, murder and hatred sent down on em. Its all good saying 'Sorry', wheres that 40 acres and a mule at, motherf**kers?!
white people now tolerate (EDIT: tolerate is a HORRIBLE word to use here but i literally can't think of anything else haha whoops!) BY LAW black people work for a LIVING so they can BUY 40 acres and a mule. in fact, we give black applicants to colleges and jobs a better shot than a comparable white applicant would have. reparations paid. i'm not saying racism and slavery didn't suck and wasn't the low point in american history, but the Jews managed to move on from Hitler trying to literally wipe them off the face of the earth, and they seem to be doing alright these days and you dont hear a peep about it anymore.
 10-15-2010, 01:50 PM         #122
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 Mike Nitty said:
this s**t aint bout slavery no more its about fuk a.ss white people "STILL" acting like s**t aint changed.

if white people still act like slavery is the norm, why on earth were you at that job interview? no way no how would that have been allowed in this fictitious world you're making up.
 10-15-2010, 02:14 PM         #123
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Go back to making them corny a.ss drumming movies.
 10-15-2010, 02:25 PM         #124
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This is such a touchy issue. Honestly, it's quite hard, if not impossible, to NOT offend someone, somehow, even while trying to make open, honest, talk about an issue no matter how hard you try to avoid stepping on toes.

I'm white, brasilian, and jewish. Not black. Don't know black pain, and can only 'try' to understand or internalize it. But, what I DO know better than most any black person is the 'white' mind.
Understand this, and no offense meant at all...so try not to take it wrong...
1. Most white people don't give two s**ts about your skin color beyond just physically recognizing you are black.
2. Many, and by many I mean a considerable number (not a majority, but a significant number) of white people actually feel 'guilt' in 'inter-racial' relationships (that being interactions with black people) and will go out of their way to be 'fair' or un-prejudiced in their actions.

Also, let's be clear about something - White people experience racism too. If you haven't noticed, there are asian's hispanics, blacks, etc in this country too, who fear what they don't know, understand, or experience often (that include white people...hello), and although the racism and prejudice I might experience isn't backed by slavery and other senseless struggle, the result is the same.

Oh, and yes there are white people who are prejudice. Many. Not acting like they don't exist.
However, lots of people are prejudice, and not racist. There's a clear difference, and maybe some people don't know or realize the distinction.

P.S. I grew up in SE Wash DC. I've experience racism, like an Eminem who was outnumbered black to white 10:1 or whatever, and yea it sucks. it happens. To some I was the 'token white boy' and it was cool, all was well. To some, I was probably the white devil, something they didn't understand, and they treated me like s**t and never gave me a chance as a person.

Everytime I hit up Anacostia, i get looks like "this white boy take a wrong turn?" and "uh oht...here comes trouble" all the time.

In summary - The s**t cuts both ways, and hurts no matter who you are. No one should devalue the frustration you feel from it, because they aren't you and don't know how it affects you but it sure as hell shouldn't stop you from being what you want to be and doing what you need to do to make it. When people do let it get the best of them, others who just grind it out get pissed and annoyed like one poster said. They see it as a cop out, and that's frustrating too.

P.S. No matter how bad you got it, someone's got it worse. Talk to a 60 year old Jew from the mother country if you think you got it bad.
 7 years ago '04        #125
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 Buttersrugby said:
This is such a touchy issue. Honestly, it's quite hard, if not impossible, to NOT offend someone, somehow, even while trying to make open, honest, talk about an issue no matter how hard you try to avoid stepping on toes.

I'm white, brasilian, and jewish. Not black. Don't know black pain, and can only 'try' to understand or internalize it. But, what I DO know better than most any black person is the 'white' mind.
Understand this, and no offense meant at all...so try not to take it wrong...
1. Most white people don't give two s**ts about your skin color beyond just physically recognizing you are black.
2. Many, and by many I mean a considerable number (not a majority, but a significant number) of white people actually feel 'guilt' in 'inter-racial' relationships (that being interactions with black people) and will go out of their way to be 'fair' or un-prejudiced in their actions.

Also, let's be clear about something - White people experience racism too. If you haven't noticed, there are asian's hispanics, blacks, etc in this country too, who fear what they don't know, understand, or experience often (that include white people...hello), and although the racism and prejudice I might experience isn't backed by slavery and other senseless struggle, the result is the same.

Oh, and yes there are white people who are prejudice. Many. Not acting like they don't exist.
However, lots of people are prejudice, and not racist. There's a clear difference, and maybe some people don't know or realize the distinction.

P.S. I grew up in SE Wash DC. I've experience racism, like an Eminem who was outnumbered black to white 10:1 or whatever, and yea it sucks. it happens. To some I was the 'token white boy' and it was cool, all was well. To some, I was probably the white devil, something they didn't understand, and they treated me like s**t and never gave me a chance as a person.

Everytime I hit up Anacostia, i get looks like "this white boy take a wrong turn?" and "uh oht...here comes trouble" all the time.

In summary - The s**t cuts both ways, and hurts no matter who you are. No one should devalue the frustration you feel from it, because they aren't you and don't know how it affects you but it sure as hell shouldn't stop you from being what you want to be and doing what you need to do to make it. When people do let it get the best of them, others who just grind it out get pissed and annoyed like one poster said. They see it as a cop out, and that's frustrating too.

P.S. No matter how bad you got it, someone's got it worse. Talk to a 60 year old Jew from the mother country if you think you got it bad.
...I was somewhat with you until the bolded. What is it with you whites (Yes, you included) trying to negate what blacks have and still go(ne) through in comparison to someone of another race? Jews have had it hard, yes, but nowhere NEAR as bad as blacks worldwide have, especially not now. Act like I'm lying. Or maybe you've forgotten that Jews more or less control the entire world?
 7 years ago '06        #126
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 JaiMega said:
If only you've seen the becky's I've f**ked, try again lame.
unless their names becky then its racist. thats like me saying all the black girls ive f**ked are named laquanda
 7 years ago '07        #127
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this n*gga takes a l for callin himself corny for real
 7 years ago '05        #128
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There are a lot of people who aren’t well known with money. If I had some money I couldn't care less if I was popular or not. But I think they’re taking shots at Mariah and Nick because of their relationship. Seems like hating I think. A 38 year old rapper and a death’s door looking Howard Stern are known to have said some prejudiced and racist stuff.

Y’all would still hate on Cannon even if didn’t call himself corny and thought he was the s**t. End of the day this n*gga is still getting money why some people choose to get upset at defending his wife for whatever reason.


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 10-15-2010, 03:10 PM         #129
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 The S-Word said:
...I was somewhat with you until the bolded. What is it with you whites (Yes, you included) trying to negate what blacks have and still go(ne) through in comparison to someone of another race? Jews have had it hard, yes, but nowhere NEAR as bad as blacks worldwide have, especially not now. Act like I'm lying. Or maybe you've forgotten that Jews more or less control the entire world?
1. Not trying to 'negate' anything. I'm not trying to cancel out anything. You feel it, it's real, and it sucks. Understood. No one is saying the recism and prejudice everyone faces is of any greater value or importance than that which another deals with. Not at all.

2. Blacks have it worse worldwide? I can't quantify that. But if my history is correct, those Jews didn't have a country, were homeless for a LONG time, and everyone around them hated them.....for thousands of years. Some cat named Hitler k!lled 6 million (estimated) of them (WTF? that's like 50% of the living population) in the span of 10 or so years. Also, I'm only jewish ethnically, not religiously so I really don't have much of a dog in this f!ght.

3. While there are many prominent jews (thank adam sandler for pointing out about 90% of them that the average cat didnt even realize was jewish), they certainly don't run the world.
Let's put it this way. There has never been a Jewish president. Yea, that guy. the leader of the free world and the most powerful man in the world.

4. This is only a theory, but I think much of the reason the Jewish thing doesn't 'strike home' like slavery does, is that it didnt happen hear like that. native americans got it pretty bad too, but people act like it's cool because they got their 40 acres and a mule (i.e. casino/reservations) but that deal sucks. they got the raw end, period point blank. Holocaust occured in Europe and i think the average black, white, asian, etc kid doesn't feel it. We learn about it in school, know about WWII, and caught Schindlers List, but we don't really 'feel' it. There's no Jewish History month, and lots of people stereotype the jewish people as rich, spoiled bankers who made out OK so their suffering doesn't seem as serious, as enduring, and ultimately as 'painful' to their people. EFF THAT.
Straight up, Jews have had it as bad, if not worse than anyone historically. As Van Wilder will say, "write that down". However, don't take that as anyone of it (racism, prejudice, genocide etc) really should be 'measured' TBH.

And a side note to something someone mentioned earlier ::
During the election, when the south went 'all red', people forget that blacks only make up like 13% of the population. A Red state doesn't mean a racist state. Lots of people are conservative and no where near racist or prejudice. Maybe a larger portion than say those who lean 'blue' politically, but no where near the majority. If you think otherwise, you're probably being way to stereotypical yourself.


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 7 years ago '04        #130
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 Buttersrugby said:
1. Not trying to 'negate' anything. I'm not trying to cancel out anything. You feel it, it's real, and it sucks. Understood. No one is saying the recism and prejudice everyone faces is of any greater value or importance than that which another deals with. Not at all.
Fine.

2. Blacks have it worse worldwide? I can't quantify that. But if my history is correct, those Jews didn't have a country, were homeless for a LONG time, and everyone around them hated them.....for thousands of years. Some cat named Hitler k!lled 6 million (estimated) of them (WTF? that's like 50% of the living population) in the span of 10 or so years. Also, I'm only jewish ethnically, not religiously so I really don't have much of a dog in this f!ght.
...Whether you can 'quantify' it or not, the truth remains--Blacks have it worse worldwide. Need proof? Take a look--No, better yet, a glance--At Africa as a whole, then consider the fact that blacks are still being enslaved there. After that, look at the way blacks are treated in America. It goes without saying that 'black' is negative in Western Civilization, and that isn't any more obvious than it is here (This is the part where I bring up 'subversive psychological and institutional racism and its effects').

Speaking of 'countries,' blacks in the diaspora (With the exception of Haiti, but we see what happened there) don't have a 'country' of their own, either. And Jews still not only run sh!t here and otherwise, but propagate racism against blacks (A prime example of this is the music and images that are 'allowed' to be put out and broadcast worldwide, something that is a lot more far-reaching and damaging than propaganda in Nazi Germany 70+ years ago).

Also, didn't you say you were Brazilian? What about their (And the rest of Latin America & Hispanics) racial/skin-color hang-ups (i.e. the fact that many of them would rather die than admit they were black)? You could write several more paragraphs about that alone.

But this only further illustrates my point of how deep this s**t goes--The entire world hates black people (Or, at the very least, fears us for one reason or another), and who taught/are still teaching them that? You get three guesses.

3. While there are many prominent jews
...Understatement of the decade.

they certainly don't run the world.
Bulls**t.

Let's put it this way. There has never been a Jewish president. Yea, that guy. the leader of the free world and the most powerful man in the world.
...That's odd, because people were saying Obama was the first 'black' President, yet history (And genealogical records) state otherwise. Not to mention, the President doesn't have as much power as you think he does (And never did, for that matter)--He's pretty much a Puppet whose strings Congress pulls. Try again.

4. This is only a theory, but I think much of the reason the Jewish thing doesn't 'strike home' like slavery does, is that it didnt happen hear like that. native americans got it pretty bad too, but people act like it's cool because they got their 40 acres and a mule (i.e. casino/reservations) but that deal sucks. they got the raw end, period point blank. Holocaust occured in Europe and i think the average black, white, asian, etc kid doesn't feel it. We learn about it in school, know about WWII, and caught Schindlers List, but we don't really 'feel' it. There's no Jewish History month, and lots of people stereotype the jewish people as rich, spoiled bankers who made out OK so their suffering doesn't seem as serious, as enduring, and ultimately as 'painful' to their people. EFF THAT.
Straight up, Jews have had it as bad, if not worse than anyone historically. As Van Wilder will say, "write that down". However, don't take that as anyone of it (racism, prejudice, genocide etc) really should be 'measured' TBH.
...Interesting 'theory' that does have some probable truths in it (Especially the 'striking home' part, which can be applied to non-blacks regarding their racist ways & hate towards blacks). As for Native Americans, I agree they got the raw end, as well, but I don't have that much remorse for them as many of them owned slaves, as well. Most people only get the whitewashed/sugarcoated version of their history where they allowed runaway slaves to seek refuge within their tribes/lands, but the truth is the truth.

Also, 'making out okay' and 'running the entire world for at least a century' are two entirely different things.


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 7 years ago '10        #131
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 VictoryThagr8 said:
Do you even live In the south?

Even though I got a job and college educated, I still can see all the racism down here. Really how do you tell people who got pulled over due to racial profiling to stop making excuses. How do you tell people to get over it especially witnessing just a few days ago in a super market a mad white man was saying he hates f**king ******s, just because they run out of fried chicken. Explain the whole Jena 6

Just because Obama got elected, doesn't mean racism is dead. Really if you notice that majority of the south was RED in the election Map.
them crackas cant get any chicken
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 7 years ago '06        #133
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em would prob whoop nick a.ss and write a song about it
 7 years ago '06        #134
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Em stays winning.
 10-15-2010, 04:26 PM         #135
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First off, you seem to have some serious issues with any culture that has slightest blacks. Being straight up there.

1. Since you touched on the Brasilian thing - My grandmother isn't 'black' persay, but she's darker. There is a serious social hang up between lighter and darker brasilians. Don't jump and think they are 'black' because it's not always black as we in america see it. Much like Venezuela have 'tan' skin with green eyes and other unusual and rare physical characteristics.
Serious question - To you, is Barack Obama black? Do you think he feels he is black? It's a similar issue many brasilians face. Physically(skin color) many could go either way. It really comes down to how those around them treat them in many cases.

2. I can name more prominant Black Americans than I can prominant Jews, by a mile. However, factually stating that Jews run the world is baseless and very very narrow. I can think of quite a few Asians who might run the world too, but do they? Do you think the average white kid is drawn more to being jewish, or black? Honestly? Just saying "bulls**t" to that is sort of a weak counter-point dont you think? How many Jewish congressman can you think of? I can think of one. Maybe two.
Again, while you call Obama a puppet, the fact of the matter is, he was voted in before a Barry Lebowitz, or Sam Cohen was. There will likely be another black president for that ever happens, if not three.

3. Many blacks are treated with great prejudice. Much of the reason Jews slide by is because you can always distinguish a Jewish person from an average white guy. You may have a hunch but you don't always really know. It's this ability to blend that has helped Jews throughout history. Blacks don't exactly have that luxury. The whole middle east is trying to wipe the epicenter of the jewish world off the map. Tell me that's not hate? There are Bosnians and serbians who've been doing just as much bad to eachother as any person has been doing to black people, and for just as long. The Arabs and the Jews have been cutting eachother down since the beginning of time, and then some.

4. In america being black cuts both ways. It's trendy in suburbs to 'act black' as it is in the south to some to 'fear blacks'. In europe, there are serious racial issues. Many people target blacks, but for every german, guy who hates blacks, he hates the turkish and armenians twice as much. The english, disliking Indians, and Pakistanis. In spain, the portuguese, italians, and french. In italy, the greeks and the irish etc etc etc.

5. It's not so simple black people that are hated throughout the world. It's not black, it's Somali, or Nigerians, Kenyans, Tutsi's. It's often so much more specific than just 'black or white'. it's regional, tribal, ethnic, religious, geographic etc.. Many cultures don't like white people, sure...but it's not always blanket 'white' people they dislike, it's the irish, or the italians, or the french, or the dutch, or americans etc. Don't paint such a broad stroke with that.

6. And you sort of prove my point about American's not being able to 'feel' the pain of Jews. I don't really feel it and Ive got family who have were victim of the holocaust. You say they rule the world as if that dismisses what they've been through. It didn't happen here. We have feelings for the war and the suffering and struggle the American people went through to survive such a huge war, but don't truly understand or realize the seriousness of what started the war in the first place.

I understand you have some personal skin in the game here. I can flap my lips and type away about all sorts of injustices suffered throughout the world that cause just as much pain to those involved but it's not going to change your mind. However, the fact of the matter is, hate is strong, has been for a long time, and people are out there suffering, as long as blacks have been persecuted and longer. it makes none of it worse, like it's some badge of honor to have it harder than anyone else.

Jews, Native Americans, Serbians, Bosnians, Armenians, and yes blacks, have had some large scale racism and prejudice imposed upon them. But theres a laundry list of others...

I'm glad you're aware (maybe hyper aware) of these problems, and more people should be aware (black and otherwise), but the biggest thing is not playing the victim.
 10-15-2010, 04:54 PM         #136
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Nick, you're a millionaire and ur married to Mariah, y the f**k r u mad at anything?
 7 years ago '09        #137
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 10-15-2010, 05:23 PM         #138
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i have black friends and i have white friends.
lol at you fitting the bill for the typical racist...you even dropped the "some of my best friends are black" routine..
 7 years ago '08        #139
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quit crying, unidentified n*gga.
don't think i could have said that s**t any better. he's such a f**kin drama queen. blaze his a.ss Em.
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 Deckster said:
lol at eminem beating anybody up them pills got that man frail.
yeah like nick cannon is swoll? lmao c'mon now. they're BOTH gonna keep it lyrical cuz prolly neither one can do s**t physically. but i jus get sick of ppl sayin nick would whoop someone's a.ss, especially when they're about the same build. s**t's comedy really! :dancingcool:
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