[Video] Lloyd Banks On The Game Wanting Re-Joining to G-Unit

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 8 years ago '04        #21
Drug Free|M 11 heat pts11
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 MajorD said:
If Record sales aren't the barometer for success and relevance then, why do people say Lil Wanye and Young Money are running s**t right now? And the only reason people would be saying "I Think I'm Big Meech" is because it got spun on the radio a million times, but it's obvious people didn't buy that single, check billboard. it's lackluster. "BBB" & "Just a Dream" are bigger hits arguing other wise is ludicrous.

Games fisrt two albums were better than banks, but lets talk about the present. Game can't even get a single released let alone an album.

Lloyd Banks is doing songs with the hottest people in the game and had a hit record, you tell me whos winning....
i said nothing about lloyd banks not being relevant..i just said i dont agree with what he said.

banks WAS irrelevant for a few years but he came back with that beamer benz and bentley track and redeemed himself.

record sales are not the scale for success anymore in this industry..ring tones are..and sure no one bought BMF as a single but i gurantee it sold a s**t ton of ringtones.

no one buys records period. HFM2 will not sell more than ross' last album.

unless u are eminem or jay-z u are not selling a large amount of records...even drake did less than everyone expected. so no...record sales do not measure success anymore.

how many people u can get to promote your song in their facebook status, twitter, word of mouth, bumpin out their car is how you measure success now.
 8 years ago '10        #22
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 PDA said:
i said nothing about lloyd banks not being relevant..i just said i dont agree with what he said.

banks WAS irrelevant for a few years but he came back with that beamer benz and bentley track and redeemed himself.

record sales are not the scale for success anymore in this industry..ring tones are..and sure no one bought BMF as a single but i gurantee it sold a s**t ton of ringtones.

no one buys records period. HFM2 will not sell more than ross' last album.

unless u are eminem or jay-z u are not selling a large amount of records...even drake did less than everyone expected. so no...record sales do not measure success anymore.

how many people u can get to promote your song in their facebook status, twitter, word of mouth, bumpin out their car is how you measure success now.
The Lloyd Banks Comment wasn't directed at you. it was to the guy that said games album >>>>>>Lloyd Banks.

Ross Peaked at 10 on the ringtone charts last month hes currently number 32, i can't find the sales right now, but i doubt it's more than 50-80k, it's not like this was a huge pop hit.

and what good is facebook, twitter. and that buls**t if you can't capitalize off sales? I.E JOE BUDDEN.
 8 years ago '04        #23
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artists uses SHOWS to capitalize off the success of it..not record sales
 8 years ago '09        #24
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 MajorD said:
The Lloyd Banks Comment wasn't directed at you. it was to the guy that said games album >>>>>>Lloyd Banks.

Ross Peaked at 10 on the ringtone charts last month hes currently number 32, i can't find the sales right now, but i doubt it's more than 50-80k, it's not like this was a huge pop hit.

and what good is facebook, twitter. and that buls**t if you can't capitalize off sales? I.E JOE BUDDEN.
I never said lloyd banks is not relevant, i just came into this thread to say that game's albums are better than Lloyd banks album that's all which is a fact imo, yes game new music f**king garbage, game is career is over, red is never coming out. btw i don't give a s**t about that relevant talk i will bump the joint if it's dope

# "Beamer, Benz, or Bentley" (featuring Juelz Santana) (produced by Prime)
# "Any Girl" (featuring Lloyd) (produced by Dready)
those joints suck/garbage, bet The Hunger for More 2 won't even be a better album than LAX


my n*gga be honest The Hunger for More 2 won't even sell more than Teflon Don


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 8 years ago '05        #25
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 PDA said:
ross had the biggest hit of the summer.

record sales dont determine relevance.


Try selling 15,000 your first week and see how relevant you are.
 8 years ago '10        #26
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 HotepSuns said:
how can i not deny it?...word of mouth is inconclusive....record sales aren't....record sales are how billboard determines awards,and other noted award ceremonies....record sales are a DIRECT reflection of relevance...what record sales doesn't determine is quality of said record...but that's another debate all together.....you saying what you heard means nothing next to what people actually went out,and bought in regards to a hit record....



i never hear lady gaga anywhere i go...but she's been one of the biggest artist over the past 3 years,or so....
 8 years ago '04        #27
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 younggangsta_s said:


Try selling 15,000 your first week and see how relevant you are.
refer to my other posts..

im not in the business of repeating myself.
 8 years ago '04        #28
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 MajorD said:
Thats the whole definition of the word "relevant". For instance i don't like Jay-Z recent music and i don't pay attention to him. does that make him "Irrelevant"? To me it does, but to the people that listen to him, no.

People don't even know what relevant means they think because they hear a rick ross single 3000 times on the radio he's relevant but he's only sold 150,000 copies of BMF, and Banks and Nelly, "irrelevant" sold over 600,000.

But popular culture would have you believe that ross is popping, when he really isn't.


Um..... lets not forget that Banks and Nelly's single are the only method of purchasing the songs.
The BMF digital Single was released just one week before Teflon Don Dropped.
 8 years ago '09        #29
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Banks won
 8 years ago '09        #30
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Games The s**t. I Made My Own Album Off Leaks. So He Can Take His Time.


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 8 years ago '10        #31
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 Brainwave said:
Games The s**t. I Made My Own Album Off Leaks. So He Can Take His Time.


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The fact that you were able to do that, should tell you all you need to know about games buzz right now......

he released 2 & Half Albums worth of material and still no buzz...
 8 years ago '05        #32
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 PDA said:
refer to my other posts..

im not in the business of repeating myself.
You're also not in the business of knowing what the f*ck you're talking about.
 8 years ago '10        #33
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Disappointed in Game.

I don't care how relevant he is right now, just don't start kissing a.ss. I rather be irrelevant and forgotten.
 8 years ago '05        #34
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I feel what Game sayin and all but damn he makin himself look bad
 8 years ago '05        #35
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 PDA said:
i didnt say selling over 500k of a single isnt a hit..i said record sales dont determine relevance.

word of mouth says alot more about a song than record sales in 2010..there is no way u can deny that.
500,000 people bought your s**t when they could've easily bootlegged it and that doesnt contribute to relevancy? Really?

Everybody heard it. Yeah that's relevant.
Everybody bought it. That's relevant too.

s**t is just on different terms. The 500,000 just means Yeah I heard, and decided to spend money on it too.
 8 years ago '06        #36
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the thing is why not just say no? 50 was asked about it he didn't flat out say no and banks didn't flat out say no don't be surprised when it actually happens
 8 years ago '04        #37
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The funny s**t is ross is only the s**t in the south n*ggas still dont' realize that. smh.. he was in the nike commerical but the guess what most people still don't know who the f**k he is.. digital or traditional if you push 150 you are not relevant. If people still push 500k or even a million then you can't say sales mean nothing. Ross is nice but the fact that he only regional still seems to escape you guys. lol.
 10-05-2010, 04:29 PM         #38
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a thread where PDA get's checked hip-hop wise.........I love it
 8 years ago '04        #39
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 Wasted said:

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exactly.... that n*gga Game needs some serious help....
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 HotepSuns said:
how can i not deny it?...word of mouth is inconclusive....record sales aren't....record sales are how billboard determines awards,and other noted award ceremonies....record sales are a DIRECT reflection of relevance...what record sales doesn't determine is quality of said record...but that's another debate all together.....you saying what you heard means nothing next to what people actually went out,and bought in regards to a hit record....



i never hear lady gaga anywhere i go...but she's been one of the biggest artist over the past 3 years,or so....


So if Tim McGraw dropped a hip hop album and it sold 5mil, he's the most relevant rapper? Sorry, but I judge the success of a song on the response from the artists' target audience. BMF is a song for the streets, so I judge it on it's response in the streets. If you asked me or any of my friends what was the biggest single of the summer, we would all say BMF w/o question. Yet if you asked some kid in the suburbs who doesn't necessarily relate to the streets, he would probably say something like "Not Afraid". (which I still haven't heard past the 8 sec ringtone). You judge can't judge BMF by how many people outside the hip hop community likes it. That's like judging Taylor Swift by her spins on urban radio.

This argument constantly pops up on these boards b/c you're mixing people who grew up "hip hop" w/ people who started listening to hip hop when it became mainstream. Albums like "Illmatic" and "Reasonable Doubt" are classics not b/c they outsold the top pop artist at the time, or b/c they were at the top of billboard for weeks at a time. They're classics b/c of the impact they made on their target audience. Basically, I'm not letting the taste of people outside of my culture dictate what's hot or who's relevant in my culture.
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