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 7 years ago '10        #101
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 Adam Is BeTTeR said:
goat????? woodson is overrated, primetime

how he got dpoy over Revis still boggles my mind
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 7 years ago '04        #102
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these young'uns dont know about prime time
 7 years ago '04        #103
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Who you think all these corners look up to now??! Prime! Deion played in Football & Baseball game in same day! Deion didnt even huddle up! Enough said!
 7 years ago '04        #104
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 QueenzBaller26 said:
yea who the f**k talks about bailey any more...n*gga hasn't been relevant since 2007
yet he is still quietly shutting down opposing WRs every week without safety help over the top.
 7 years ago '08        #105
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HAH, Deion was clowning on NFL Network now that Woodson had passed him for the most pick 6 touchdowns.

They asked Deion why Woodson's pick 6 didn't make primetime, was it because he passed you up?? Deion was like "It's personal..." "He may never make primetime again..."

You know it was just jokes, but the way he said it was funny as hell.
 7 years ago '05        #106
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Darrell Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 10-05-2010, 08:37 AM         #107
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 finishim said:
A lot of you guys never even saw Deion and I'm pretty sure if you've seen Woodson since he came to green bay, you'd know Woodson has definitely been playing on deions level, Deion was afraid of contact, he was decent as a shutdown corner but did nothing else that Woodson is capable of, Deion shut down wrs and Woodson shut down anyone in front of him, there's a reason Deion is known as one of the most overrated athletes in history


Wow you've officially pushed your homer card.

Most overrated Athlete? Some say he's one of the greastest...

Played Football, baseball and track and could have been in the olympics.


 thefranchise9 said:
Who you think all these corners look up to now??! Prime! Deion played in Football & Baseball game in same day! Deion didnt even huddle up! Enough said!
dont forget how he played in a baseball game ,left to run his leg in a relay for a track meet and went back after to play in his baseball game.

 Jade Yorker said:
deon without a doubt but woodson is one of the greatest also

"75% of earth covered by water, the other 25% is covered by charles woodson"

my brother use to have that Deion Sanders poster with that saying.


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 7 years ago '04        #108
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 7 years ago '04        #109
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He played baseball but was horrible at it, and he wasn't even as good at track as Donald driver so who cares about what other sports? There are plenty of athletes who are good at more than one sport, Finley on the packers had scholarships for basketball and football and was on track to go pro in either
 7 years ago '08        #110
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 QueenzBaller26 said:
yea who the f**k talks about bailey any more...n*gga hasn't been relevant since 2007
Bailey is still top 5 corner in the league idiot
 10-05-2010, 09:37 AM         #111
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He played baseball but was horrible at it, and he wasn't even as good at track as Donald driver so who cares about what other sports? There are plenty of athletes who are good at more than one sport, Finley on the packers had scholarships for basketball and football and was on track to go pro in either
wow cant believe you have became the annoying GB fan after all the time you've been here.

Athlete here you go:
But make no mistake, with eight Pro Bowl selections as a cornerback, defense is where Sanders earns his big bucks. After intercepting 30 passes in his first six seasons, quarterbacks stopped throwing his way.

Sanders, who earned back-to-back Super Bowl rings with the San Francisco 49ers and Cowboys, is a big-play guy. He holds the NFL record for career returns for touchdowns with 19 (nine on interceptions, six on punts, three on kickoffs and one on a fumble). He also has three touchdown receptions.

At North Fort Myers High School, Sanders played cornerback and quarterback. He was all-state in football, baseball and basketball. After scoring 30 points in a basketball game, a friend nicknamed him "Prime Time."

At Florida State in 1987, Sanders, a sophomore outfielder, helped the Seminoles reach the College World Series. But he became nationally known as a two-time football All-American, winning the 1988 Jim Thorpe Trophy as the nation's top defensive back.

When the Falcons made him the fifth overall selection in the 1989 NFL draft, Sanders showed up wearing thousands of dollars worth of gold jewelry and an attention-getting black leather ensemble complete with an embroidered "Prime Time."

He spent the summer of '89 in the outfield of the New York Yankees' Triple-A Columbus team. After joining the Yankees, he homered against Seattle on September 5. Three days after signing a $4.4-million, four-year contract with the Falcons, Sanders ran back the first punt he received for a touchdown against the Los Angeles Rams on September 10. That makes him the only pro athlete to hit a homer and score a touchdown in one week.



Where Sanders goes, teams win
By Ron Flatter
Special to ESPN.com


"I never wanted to be mediocre at anything. I wanted to be the absolute best," says Deion Sanders on ESPN Classic's SportsCentury series.

Deion Sanders is the only player to have appeared in a Super Bowl and World Series.

For his first five seasons in the NFL, Deion Sanders played for the Atlanta Falcons, who dressed in black and white.
Deion Sanders
Starting with the Falcons, Sanders has been selected for the Pro Bowl eight times.
Those colors fit him well. With Sanders, there are no shades of gray.

Strutting into the end zone on a long return, he inspired just as many cheers on Sunday as he did critics on Monday. "Some people will come out to see me do well," he said. "Some people will come out to see me get run over. But love me or hate me, they're going to come out."

Sanders is the only man to have played in a Super Bowl and a World Series. While nowhere near as proficient in baseball as he was in football, Sanders was an outstanding base stealer who was a mediocre hitter. Back to the NFL: In 1996 with the Dallas Cowboys he became the first regular starter on offense and defense in 34 years.

But make no mistake, with eight Pro Bowl selections as a cornerback, defense is where Sanders earns his big bucks. After intercepting 30 passes in his first six seasons, quarterbacks stopped throwing his way.

Sanders, who earned back-to-back Super Bowl rings with the San Francisco 49ers and Cowboys, is a big-play guy. He holds the NFL record for career returns for touchdowns with 19 (nine on interceptions, six on punts, three on kickoffs and one on a fumble). He also has three touchdown receptions.

Off the field, his value comes in being "Prime Time." A prominent pitchman for Nike and Visa, he cashes in on a flamboyant, jewelry-laden persona that is not limited to the playing field. As a Florida State senior, Sanders arrived for the climactic home game against Florida in a white limousine. He emerged wearing a tuxedo.

"How do you think defensive backs get attention?" Sanders said. "They don't pay nobody to be humble."

He was born Aug. 9, 1967, in Fort Myers, Fla. By the time he was eight, he was playing organized baseball and football.

At North Fort Myers High School, Sanders played cornerback and quarterback. He was all-state in football, baseball and basketball. After scoring 30 points in a basketball game, a friend nicknamed him "Prime Time."

At Florida State in 1987, Sanders, a sophomore outfielder, helped the Seminoles reach the College World Series. But he became nationally known as a two-time football All-American, winning the 1988 Jim Thorpe Trophy as the nation's top defensive back.

When the Falcons made him the fifth overall selection in the 1989 NFL draft, Sanders showed up wearing thousands of dollars worth of gold jewelry and an attention-getting black leather ensemble complete with an embroidered "Prime Time."

He spent the summer of '89 in the outfield of the New York Yankees' Triple-A Columbus team. After joining the Yankees, he homered against Seattle on September 5. Three days after signing a $4.4-million, four-year contract with the Falcons, Sanders ran back the first punt he received for a touchdown against the Los Angeles Rams on September 10. That makes him the only pro athlete to hit a homer and score a touchdown in one week.

Where Sanders was flashy playing football, he was low key in baseball. "You can't jump around and get excited and go crazy in baseball," he said. "Nobody ever masters that game."

Two seasons with the Yankees proved that. After batting only .177 in 71 games, he was released near the end of the 1990 season.
Deion Sanders
Sanders, who played for the Yankees, Braves, Reds and Giants, hit .263 and stole 186 bases in 641 games over nine seasons.
By then, he had become a full-time Falcon, and started all 16 games that year.

In 1991, Sanders batted .191 in 54 games as a centerfielder for the Atlanta Braves. Where baseball was a struggle, Sanders seemed to have football mastered. He earned his first Pro Bowl invitation in 1991, intercepting six passes to help the Falcons reach the playoffs as a wild card.

But the sport he once called his "girlfriend" sought more of a commitment. "The only way I have a chance to be successful in baseball is to give it a shot for a full season," he said just before 1992.

That year, Sanders seemed torn. He hit a career-high .304 with a National League-leading 14 triples. He had the Falcons waiting for him until the fourth game of the year. They were paying him $750,000 a season, but they fined him $68,000 for going AWOL to the Braves, who were paying him $600,000.

On October 11, Sanders played for the Falcons at Miami, then took a charter flight to Pittsburgh for the Braves' playoff game that night, hoping to become the first athlete to play in two pro sports the same day. But Braves manager Bobby Cox didn't play him. Broadcaster Tim McCarver criticized Sanders and, three days later after Atlanta won the NLCS, Neon Deion's response was to dump ice water on McCarver.

After going hitless in five at-bats in the Pirates series, Sanders batted .533 (8-for-15) against Toronto in the World Series. Something had to give, and after 1992, Sanders would not make baseball his No. 1 priority again.

Despite being a part-timer, Sanders still led NFC Pro Bowl vote-getters among cornerbacks and kick returners in 1992. He also led the league with a 26.7-yard average on kickoff returns.

Sanders was batting .276 in 1993 when he went on the disabled list with a respiratory infection, ending his season in August. He arrived late with the Falcons, but that did not prevent him from leading the NFC with seven interceptions in 11 games.

In 1994, Sanders was traded to Cincinnati. He was hitting .283 with 38 steals when the players' strike ended the season in August.

Sanders returned six picks for 303 yards and three TDs for the 49ers in 1994.

If nothing else, the strike hastened Sanders' free-agent auction in the NFL. He signed a one-year deal with San Francisco, where he tied the 49ers' single-season record with three interception returns for touchdowns and became the NFL Defensive Player of the Year. His four tackles and interception helped the 49ers beat San Diego 49-26 in Super Bowl XXIX.

In 1995, Sanders was traded to the San Francisco Giants and hit .268 for the season. A free agent in football again, he inked a seven-year deal worth $35-million (with a $13-million signing bonus) with the Cowboys on Sept. 9, 1995.

A month after arthroscopic ankle surgery, Sanders made his Dallas debut on October 29. He wasn't used much as a return man and teams seldom threw the ball anywhere near him. But his presence at cornerback helped Dallas win the Super Bowl that season.

After sitting out the 1996 baseball season, a rested Sanders started all 16 games at cornerback and eight at wide receiver to become the first two-way NFL player since Chuck Bednarik in 1962. He caught 36 passes for 475 yards and a touchdown on offense and simply minded his half of the field while teams avoided him on defense.


Saying he "got bored," Sanders returned to the Reds for 1997 - and stole 56 bases, second most in the National League. After retiring from the game again, he came back with Cincinnati in 2001, but batted just .173 before he was released. For his career, he hit .263 with 186 steals, 39 homers and 168 RBI.

During 1997, Sanders was going through a messy divorce and he says he drove his car off a cliff in what he described as a suicide attempt. He says he was going 65-70 mph and the drop was 30 or 40 feet. "The car went down and hit and there wasn't a scratch on me or on the car," he wrote in his autobiography.

In 1998, Sanders returned an interception and two punts for touchdowns for Dallas. He also ran back another punt for a TD in 1999, when an injury limited his playing time.

Released by the Cowboys for salary-cap reasons on June 2, 2000, Sanders three days later signed a $56-million, seven-year contract with Washington. But he played only one season with the Redskins - getting four interceptions to increase his career total to 48 - and then retired before the 2001 campaign.

Sanders spent the 2002 and 2003 seasons on CBS' NFL pre-game show. When the network wanted to cut his salary for 2004, Sanders, who had been out of football for three years, came out of retirement and joined the Baltimore Ravens. Although injuries limited him to five games, he made three interceptions.
Your gonna tell me this guy isnt an athlete?

You dont even have to look at the guys stats to say he's not a true shutdown corner?

Killed it as a CB/PR/KR/WR.. could have ran in the olympics and been a full time starter at WR if he wanted to be.


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 7 years ago '07        #112
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 finishim said:
[code]http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/alltimeoverrated.html[/code]


So because one guy, that NO ONE has heard of, put him on this list he is automatically overrated?


You are slowly climbing the ranks of homers on this site. Not a good look along side Gattsau, Grisly, smokeweed101, and NoLedge.
 7 years ago '04        #113
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read the article i posted, and damn i never even said c. woodson was better youre just mad im not saying deion is better, its not even a green bay thing, i said rod woodson was the best, and that most people on here yelling deion have only seen highlights on tv, you can pull up any article you want, charles woodson as an overall corner accomplished more than deion, he helps in run support, he shuts down the man in front of him, and can cover multiple players a game, deion is the equivalent to revis, with the only diff being that he returned punts and kickoffs, these days, people value their best defenders more than they did back then, the packers wouldnt dare put woodson back on kickoffs, punts, or offense, in fear of injury, it was a different time, woodson returned punts for the packers for two years and got turf toe and that ended that, n during that span he was actually pretty good just never got in the end zone, btw, youre calling me a gb homer, but youre a dallas fan sucking off deion? there isnt a four year span in deions career that even comes close to what woodson has done while in green bay, thats why rod woodson is the best, from beginning to end his play never went up and down, he averaged 5 ints a season, its not even about not throwing a guys way, because a lot of qbs didnt throw either of the woodsons ways but they still found ways to get their hands on the ball in other ways, and there really is no way for any of you guys to even prove how many times a qb threw deions way and how well he played it, he had exceptional speed, and great hands, and great cover skills, but were talking football here and theres more to being a corner than just covering, its the same argument like i said about the revis/woodson arguments, and as for the overrated athlete comment i was referring the article i posted, deoin was the most popular for his ochocinco like attitude than his play
 7 years ago '04        #114
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 MythMade said:
So because one guy, that NO ONE has heard of, put him on this list he is automatically overrated?


You are slowly climbing the ranks of homers on this site. Not a good look along side Gattsau, Grisly, smokeweed101, and NoLedge.
this has nothing to do with being a homer at all, i already said rod woodson was the best corner and that if you compare what woodson has done in green bay to what deion did, he was def playing at deions level, with even more attributes than just shutting down the man in front of him

as soon as someone makes an argument that the majority doesnt agree with you pull the homer card, there are about 5 corners in league history better than deion, d!ck lane is prally better than deion, d!ck lebeau, herb adderly, etc
 10-05-2010, 10:39 AM         #115
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Charles Woodson does not shut down the man in front of him. Charles Woodson is a really good corner, but he isn't a shut down corner and he shouldn't even be mentioned.

Nobody should be mentioned besides Deion when talking about the goat CB.
 10-05-2010, 10:45 AM         #116
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 finishim said:
this has nothing to do with being a homer at all, i already said rod woodson was the best corner and that if you compare what woodson has done in green bay to what deion did, he was def playing at deions level, with even more attributes than just shutting down the man in front of him

as soon as someone makes an argument that the majority doesnt agree with you pull the homer card, there are about 5 corners in league history better than deion, d!ck lane is prally better than deion, d!ck lebeau, herb adderly, etc


now this dude just throwing out defensive players he's never even seen play a full game before
 7 years ago '04        #117
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 unkoricky said:
now this dude just throwing out defensive players he's never even seen play a full game before
go ahead, take the easy route, head on home now
 10-05-2010, 10:52 AM         #118
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 finishim said:
go ahead, take the easy route, head on home now
d!ck lebeau? whats your reason behind that? because he's in the HOF? because he has lots of INTs?

just admit your throwing HOF guys out there and you can say you honestly never seen them play.
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 finishim said:
go ahead, take the easy route, head on home now


So you've seen d!ck Lane play?


The guy who was elected to the HOF in 1974?


How old are you? 60?



What about Herb Adderley? Didn't he retire in like the early 60's?



What a f**kin clown. Go eat cheese douche.
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 unkoricky said:
d!ck lebeau? whats your reason behind that? because he's in the HOF? because he has lots of INTs?

just admit your throwing HOF guys out there and you can say you honestly never seen them play.




He was naming guys that played in the 50's and 60's.



He is either 70 years old, or completely full of s**t.



I am going with the latter.
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