Has Jay-Z ever dealt with any great adversity?

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 08-18-2010, 08:43 AM         #21
youngbasedkltn  OP
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 StateProperty88 said:
why not? because he wasnt a rapper?

proof was eminem's secret lover
 08-18-2010, 08:43 AM         #22
China Man  OP
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 StateProperty88 said:
why not? because he wasnt a rapper?
... how close was Jay close to his nephew? Eminem grew up with proof, his best friend.

I hate to sit here and talk about how one death isn't as serious as another, but I'm talking through the perspective of the ones who dealt with it rather than the ones that died.
 7 years ago '05        #23
Da Gooneyz 5 heat pts
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 China Man said:
I specifically asked about a GREAT adversity <<---- something that can single handily derail your life/career.
your question was answered and you still goin?
 08-18-2010, 08:45 AM         #24
China Man  OP
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 JoeyPrince said:
Jay is one of the few real ex drug dealers in the game.
Actually, that part of his life has been seriously questioned, many times. There's no real proof (ha). Anyone whose been around hip hop for long enough knows that this has been questioned.
 08-18-2010, 08:46 AM         #25
China Man  OP
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 Da Gooneyz said:
your question was answered and you still goin?
Where was the answer?

Not 1 thing was said I didn't know.
 7 years ago '05        #26
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 China Man said:
... how close was Jay close to his nephew? Eminem grew up with proof, his best friend.

I hate to sit here and talk about how one death isn't as serious as another, but I'm talking through the perspective of the ones who dealt with it rather than the ones that died.
do you know how close jay was to him? if not you still cant make this statement. and unless you know how jay took it you cant say that it wasnt adversity. like the line said he died in the car jay bought for him
 7 years ago '06        #27
chuckdirty 
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lets not forget jay stabbing lance riviera over him bootlegging volume 3... or the court case for that too.. or him growing up in marcy projects.. or him actually being a REAL heroin/cocaine/crack drug dealer, who made real f**kin money and BOUGHT HIS OWN WAY into the rap game.. id say thats a great f**kin adversity to over come.. came up from a nobody to havin beef with 2pac and being dissed by arguably one of the greatest to pick up a mic.. not too many rookies could come out and get caught in the big and pac "beef" and make it thru that tidal wave of bulls**t.. he had bigs only non subliminal pac diss on his song.. thats f**kin hard 2 deal with as a rookie there.. so i think he should be able to get some cred for makin it thru that s**t.. canibus sure didnt.
and just think of all the bulls**t we have to go thru to earn our measley 20,000$ a year or so, (give or take depending on ur position in life) and imagine the stress, drama, and bulls**t that comes with earning hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars.. s**t the whole dame dash situation had 2 be f**kin rough.. that was his right hand man.. his road dogg.. reguardless of ur oppinion every1 here has had a close friend f**k them and had to cut em out of their life.. we all know that s**t dont make ya feel good, thats some rough s**t on its own to have to go thru..


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 08-18-2010, 08:49 AM         #28
China Man  OP
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And people posting songs proves my point further <<--- I addressed that specific idea in the original post, and that's how he COMES OFF as.

Someone list me ONE UNDERLYING GREAT adversity he's been through, that's he's specifically known for, and that's all that needs to be said.

Growing up in the hood and dealing with the danger isn't defining <<<---- that can derail you're life but you learn to adapt.

A great adversity I'm talking about is having the ability to MOVE on from a situation.
 7 years ago '05        #29
Swisher sweet 87 heat pts87
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His nephew dying was pretty big

Didn't he almost get locked up for some s**t that happened in a club back in like 1998? Some stabbing or crap?

and This song right here seems to say a lot about his past...



[video - click to view]

 7 years ago '04        #30
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 China Man said:
ya'll are seeing this the wrong way. I'm not saying he's never been through NONE.

I specifically asked about a GREAT adversity <<---- something that can single handily derail your life/career.
no I think you dont want to see it like I said before If you've listened to the music then this thread wouldnt be created....
 7 years ago '04        #31
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 China Man said:
Eminem - Proof died, crackhead mom, no dad, f**ked up relationship, gone through that whole racist freestyle, etc
this s**t is pretty average and the racist freestyle he brought on his own f**ked up self
 08-18-2010, 08:52 AM         #32
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 StateProperty88 said:
do you know how close jay was to him? if not you still cant make this statement. and unless you know how jay took it you cant say that it wasnt adversity. like the line said he died in the car jay bought for him
I'm not saying it wasn't. It was pretty clear. However, it's not defining as I've mentioned in the previous post.

YOu're sitting here telling me JAy-Z and his nephew's relationship were on the level of Proof and Eminem?
 7 years ago '06        #33
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 D.S.O.M. said:
gtfoh with this dumb a.ss thread. its obvious u don't even listen to his
music cause u wouldn't be asking this question


you damn right.... I quickly went through this whole post and only saw Jay-z s**t from 2000 til now, but they dont know bout that "in my lifetime vol. 1"

I was going to post the song "you must love me"

Since my date of birth, bought you nothing but hurt
play those video games, stole change from ya purse
Sat on the cold court bench, 'til I was arraigned in ya skirt
Saw the pain in ya face, through you maintained a smirk
All you did was motivate me, don't let 'em hold you back
What I do I turned around and I sold you crack
I was a bastard for that
still I'm drowning in shame
Just remember one thing now, you're not to blame
You was newly seperated, tryin' to escape ya world
and through my thirst, I didn't help you I just made things worse
I hated me and everybody that created crack
Had me thinkin' the newest kicks and the latest gats
Still haven't apologized, so please play this back
while I try to come to terms, with such a heinous act
you know in more than one way, cocaine numbs the brain
All I did was think about, how the funds once came
then I ran across this memory, and it stung the brain
How can you ever destroy the beauty, from which one came
That's a savage you're the reason why me and these beats make a marriage
why I rhyme above average and I ain't s**t
Glad you got yourself together, no thanks to me
Strong and beautiful the way things should be
You must love me


you're questioning adversity? in the second verse he raps about how he shot his own brother
 7 years ago '05        #34
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 China Man said:
No, it's not. Yeah it's serious s**t, but it's not as big as proof dying.


His nephews are like his sons to him. He talks about them all the time. That's his blood. And it obviously did something to him emotionally for him to touch on it in his songs.

How was it not as big as proof dying for?
 7 years ago '04        #35
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 China Man said:
And people posting songs proves my point further <<--- I addressed that specific idea in the original post, and that's how he COMES OFF as.

Someone list me ONE UNDERLYING GREAT adversity he's been through, that's he's specifically known for, and that's all that needs to be said.

Growing up in the hood and dealing with the danger isn't defining <<<---- that can derail you're life but you learn to adapt.

A great adversity I'm talking about is having the ability to MOVE on from a situation.
thats the same way of having a crack addicted mom u can adapt to that s**t too

jay gets way too much hate on bx I think its because hes a rich black guy who made something out of nothing.
 08-18-2010, 08:54 AM         #36
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 erickonasis said:
this s**t is pretty average and the racist freestyle he brought on his own f**ked up self
Well not having a dad and a crackhead mom isn't really average. Most people have 1, but it's not common to have someone grow up and not care if their parents both died.

Proof's death was big.
 08-18-2010, 08:54 AM         #37
Motivated  OP
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Didn't Jay nephew get k!lled? Threadstarter?
 08-18-2010, 08:56 AM         #38
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 DJ Maximum said:
thats the same way of having a crack addicted mom u can adapt to that s**t too

jay gets way too much hate on bx I think its because hes a rich black guy who made something out of nothing.
Nobody is hating. Did you read my post or just skim through it?
 7 years ago '05        #39
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 Swisher sweet said:


His nephews are like his sons to him. He talks about them all the time. That's his blood. And it obviously did something to him emotionally for him to touch on it in his songs.

How was it not as big as proof dying for?
because he just doesnt want to believe it was...even if it might have been. doesnt feng shui of the thread

he had his nephews in a video back in the day when they were f**king kids
 7 years ago '06        #40
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 China Man said:
Nobody is hating. Did you read my post or just skim through it?


I see what u did there ^^^^
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