Has Jay-Z ever dealt with any great adversity?

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 08-18-2010, 08:21 AM         #1
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China Man 
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Has Jay-Z ever dealt with any great adversity?
 

 
Most rappers that have come to fame from an extremely poor/f**ked up situation have dealt with some sort of great adversity in their lives/career other than Jay-Z.

50 Cent - Shot 9 times, mother got k!lled at a young age, lived in a room where you can't stand up straight.

Eminem - Skin color. Proof died, crackhead mom, no dad, f**ked up relationship, drug addiction

T.I. - As of recent the gun charges and going to jail... younger days can be questioned. However, Philant got k!lled in front of him...

Kanye West - Car accident, mothers death

2Pac - nuff said

Biggie - nuff siad

These rappers have the biggest brand names for the most part. I guess you can throw snoop in there but snoop is just snoop if that makes sense. He's been to jail a couple times, but it's pretty much known he ain't from extremely poor situations as the above.

Thing about Jay-Z is, he comes off as the hardest n*gga alive and the realest G out there, going through all sorts of s**t, etc. From the things he talks about, how he comes off at times, you'd think this n*gga gone through some serious s**t.

He's done a lot and can be legitimately argued as the GOAT... however it's hard to give that extra respect... naa mean?

And before all the Jay-Z camel riders come in, an obvious point of attack to this is that he's "so smart." << --- dealing adversity doesn't always come from things you control and that's what I'm talking about. That's why the T.I. thing is a little ehhh but his climb to fame has been largely due to female love.

Biggest thing Jay-Z dealt with has been not signing LBJ.

Discuss.

UPDATE

After pages and pages of discussion, I need to add some things.

1. This not about if Jay-Z has ever dealt with adversity itself. Every f**kin human being deals with it. This is not what I'm talking about. Put the f**kin pipe down and think about the core of my question. I am NOT saying he doesn't deserve to be where he's at.

2. His nephews death is not on the level I am questioning. Read through the thread, I've addressed it more than once.

3. I am not sure why you guys are posting songs, this is probably the dumbest s**t anyone can really do because I have addressed it in the original post.

4. Really, at this point, the biggest/greatest adversity that has really defined his career has been getting through the Nas beef, and all the shots from numerous artists that have taken shots at him. I mean, when you put it on that list it's not as serious as the others, but it falls under the question. Everybody goes through beef if you're from that era and relevant.

5. The adversity I'm talking about is no specifically about bringing s**t on yourselfF, OR s**t NOT HAPPENING aka catching a f**kin break. So winning a f**kin court case because he stabbed someone doesn't fall under THIS topic.

I'm going to bring this to a SPORTS analogy so you guys can understand.

Michael Jordan went through injuries that cost him the season, he got banned by stern for a year (go do your research on his supposed retirement for baseball).

Magic got tested for HIV.

Kobe Bryant's r*pe case (I would say he brought this on himself, but this is because I don't believe he r*ped the b**ch). However, the reason why this was a huge adversity for Kobe was not because of the legal problems, but because of the way it had took a huge hit on his public image.

What single moment in Jay-Z's career could match the above examples? Getting dissed by a rapper? You tell me how that sounds.


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250 comments for "Has Jay-Z ever dealt with any great adversity?"

 08-18-2010, 08:24 AM         #2
youngbasedkltn  OP
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he sacrificed his soul in illuminati rituals for fame and power
 7 years ago '05        #3
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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im sure he's went through adversity...who hasnt? great adversity however? dont know nor care. last i checked its not a part of the criteria to be a great mc
 08-18-2010, 08:29 AM         #4
China Man  OP
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 StateProperty88 said:
im sure he's went through adversity...who hasnt?
I said GREAT adversity...
 7 years ago '05        #5
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 China Man said:
I said GREAT adversity...
yeah i saw i had to edit my post
 08-18-2010, 08:30 AM         #6
youngbasedkltn  OP
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b pumper dissed him
 08-18-2010, 08:32 AM         #7
China Man  OP
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 slimwillie said:
proof didnt die in front of eminem and Big didnt face great adversity before he died
I corrected the Proof death statement.

I'd say the beef with 2pac was great adversity.
 7 years ago '09        #8
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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please don't make any more threads.
 08-18-2010, 08:33 AM         #9
deLeet  OP
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just listen to the music, old stuff.... His dad wasn't around also and a bunch of s**t....

And this


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 7 years ago '05        #10
StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 China Man said:
I corrected the Proof death statement.

I'd say the beef with 2pac was great adversity.
beef with nas?
 7 years ago '05        #11
Da Gooneyz 5 heat pts
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My nephew died in the car I bought
So under the belief it’s partly my fault
Close my eyes and squeeze, try to block that thought
Place any burden on me, please not that lord
 08-18-2010, 08:33 AM         #12
deLeet  OP
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 08-18-2010, 08:34 AM         #13
JoeyPrince  OP
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No offense but why are u asking this question on boxden?...
Jay is one of the few real ex drug dealers in the game.
He grew up in Marcy projects
He had no father in his life like many children of the ghetto

... and snoop was hit wit a murda case that almost put him away for a long time
even made a song about it
 08-18-2010, 08:35 AM         #14
China Man  OP
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 StateProperty88 said:
yeah i saw i had to edit my post
Just read it.

I'm not saying it is a criteria, but during that time period it was almost as if it was. Drake and the Lil Wayne today wouldn't even go gold during those times.

However, this is not about just being a great MC. There are many great MC's that haven't had no great adversity. I'm talking about the environment you come out, and the way JAy-Z comes off you would think he would.
 08-18-2010, 08:36 AM         #15
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 China Man said:
Just read it.

I'm not saying it is a criteria, but during that time period it was almost as if it was. Drake and the Lil Wayne today wouldn't even go gold during those times.

However, this is not about just being a great MC. There are many great MC's that haven't had no great adversity. I'm talking about the environment you come out, and the way JAy-Z comes off you would think he would.
you still going... stop now and delete the thread.
 08-18-2010, 08:38 AM         #16
China Man  OP
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 JoeyPrince said:
No offense but why are u asking this question on boxden?...
Jay is one of the few real ex drug dealers in the game.
He grew up in Marcy projects
He had no father in his life like many children of the ghetto

... and snoop was hit wit a murda case that almost put him away for a long time
even made a song about it
I been going to Boxden since like REAL early 2000's.

And growing up in Marcy projects puts him on the same level as any other kid growing up in the hood.

He didn't have his father but he has his mother, a nurturing one. Divorced parents are actually pretty damn common.

I forgot to put Kanye on that list.
 7 years ago '04        #17
DJ Maximum|M 48 heat pts48
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theres no way that u listened to his music not knowing his adversity....
 08-18-2010, 08:39 AM         #18
China Man  OP
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 slimwillie said:
jay's nephew died, thats as big as proof dying
No, it's not. Yeah it's serious s**t, but it's not as big as proof dying.
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StateProperty88 34 heat pts34
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 China Man said:
No, it's not. Yeah it's serious s**t, but it's not as big as proof dying.
why not? because he wasnt a rapper?
 08-18-2010, 08:42 AM         #20
China Man  OP
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 DJ Maximum said:
theres no way that u listened to his music not knowing his adversity....
ya'll are seeing this the wrong way. I'm not saying he's never been through NONE.

I specifically asked about a GREAT adversity <<---- something that can single handily derail your life/career.
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