Non Biased opinions only! Kobe - best offensive talent ever in the NBA?

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 7 years ago '06        #81
teh truth 2 heat pts
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 P. Dedos said:
ohhh sorry the kobe finals #'s dosent include this years finals so the scoring avg goes a little bit up and the FG% goes down


awwww man how foolish do u kobe stans look man
lol ur one amazing kobe hater stats are stats but your forgetting the big picture

5 rings

yeah he failed 2 times but thats the beauty of it he comes back with a back2back slap to the face hater


and how many does robin james have? and batman wade have?wat about alfred bosh?

combine them = 1 kobe= 5 morrison= 2

so u lose




 7 years ago '10        #82
beast mode 25 heat pts25
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 teh truth said:
lol alot goes to that fam....he played with shaq best believe if he didnt play with shaq he would have more scoring titles and prolly only 2 chips right now..

we know kobe is an offensive beast more than iverson

i mean the time wen shaq left 04 to 08 proved why 35 then 31 then

4 straight 50 points game

with shaq 9 straight 40 point games and avg 30 jus imagine if he had more touches or if they ran the offense towards kobe and not shaq
you can't say he what he "would have" done,only thing that changes after shaq left was he was taking over 27 shots a game,4 straight 50 point games is great but that only further proves my point of him being the most explosive not the best
 7 years ago '07        #83
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 malikmoore9 said:
When a guy makes amazing shots on a consistent basis throughout his career you don't call it a bad shot for him. If he hits a three pointer or a jumper fading across the lane with Battier's hand in his face to any normal player thats a bad shot but with Kobe and the Jordan's of the world thats a good shot. The problem with comparing players and where they get there style from everyone has a mold. Jordan got his game from somewhere he imitated players the same way Kobe imitated him. I don't know if you are even old enough to know Elgin Baylor and Dr. Jay but every shot Jordan takes resembles these two. Stop with the Kobe formed his game off of Jordan. Cause now Kobe has a post game that resembles Hakeem. Jordan's footwork was great don't get me wrong but Kobe would murder MJ in the post now.
and has the record for 3's made in a game TWICE!
 7 years ago '06        #84
teh truth 2 heat pts
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 abstractq said:
again

people like durant and bron and wade attack the rim alot and put up alot of shots that dont go into fga because they get fouled


kobe shoots far less fts and most of his shots this year were jumpers


like i said, you n*ggas really dont even have any fundamental understanding behind any of the stats you throw out

portland being top 5 out of 16 playoff teams is a LOT different than being top 5 in the whole league dumbass. . .they WERENT an elite defensive team

stop it. . .
exactly

there are alot of things put into the stats


kobe played wit shaq kkobe worked his way up unlike jordan and james they were given the ball

ill admit this kobe =jordan

but legacy wise

jordan >>>>>>kobe

but skill wise their the same 2 of a kind
 7 years ago '04        #85
abstractq 5 heat pts
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beaten in the finals >>>> having 1 playoff win in 3 seasons. . .
 7 years ago '08        #86
returnofthemack 2 heat pts
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 abstractq said:
smh

look. . .its really not that difficult to understand

people like AI, Durant, Bron, Wade when they won were the only scoring options their teams have. Their whole offense runs through them at all times, so as a result they got scoring titles over kobe

When kobe was the the only scoring option his team had, he was puttin up scoring numbers that DWARFED the rest of the NBA


early on in his career he shared with Snaq. . .lnow he shares with Paul and Bynum and the squad


but dont get it twisted. . .Kobes the best, most complete offensive player the NBA ever had. Also one of the best defending guards the NBA has ever had


aka

the GOAT
MY MUTHAPHUKIN NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGA.

KB in 05-06 was a f**kIN BEAST(Avg. 35, 5,5, and 2 stls) with his weak a.ss team.

He had Smush at the 1, Luke at the 3, Lamar, and Kwame "MuthaPhucKin" Brown(Inser Stephen a smith voice) rounding out the starting lineup. THEY still won 45 games in the WEST and made the playoffs!!!!!

Nobody should ever question KB's ability to put the ball in the basket. He done done it all (Shawty Lo voice)
 7 years ago '06        #87
teh truth 2 heat pts
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 P. Dedos said:
you can say 5 rings all u want f**got but 3 of those he was the 2nd option


THE GOAT DIDNT PLAY 2nd fiddle to anybody for his 6 rings


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that is true but he already proved he can do it as the number 1 option so your s**t is

also phil already said he didnt run the offense towards kobe he taught kobe a lesson only made him better

and i dont know if you call this a 2nd option but more like 1b

98-99 LAL 8 8 39.4 0.430 0.348 0.800 1.6 5.3 6.9 4.6 1.9 1.2 3.88 3.00 19.8
99-00 LAL 22 22 39.0 0.442 0.344 0.754 1.2 3.3 4.5 4.4 1.4 1.4 2.50 4.05 21.1
00-01 LAL 16 16 43.4 0.469 0.324 0.821 1.8 5.4 7.3 6.1 1.6 0.8 3.19 3.31 29.4
01-02 LAL 19 19 43.8 0.434 0.379 0.759 1.5 4.4 5.8 4.6 1.4 0.9 2.84 3.42 26.6
02-03 LAL 12 12 44.3 0.432 0.403 0.827 1.3 3.8 5.1 5.2 1.2 0.1 3.50 2.92 32.1


that doesnt look like a 2nd option to me but this does

07-08 LAL 21 21 39.8 0.530 0.000 0.692 2.6 6.7 9.3 4.0 0.5 1.9 2.10 2.86 16.9
08-09 LAL 23 23 40.5 0.580 0.000 0.714 3.0 7.9 10.8 2.5 0.8 2.0 1.91 3.00 18.3
09-10 LAL 23 23 39.7 0.539 0.000 0.759 4.0 7.1 11.1 3.5 0.4 2.1 1.91 2.74 19.6


kobe was more than a 2nd option so wen lebron wins a ring i hope you dont turn biased cuz he would have done wit the 3rd best player in the L and a big that puts up 24 10


if your going to give kobe that treatment then you have to give lbj that treament jus like wat barkley said of course you wont cuz u have hes d!ck up your mouth
 7 years ago '06        #88
teh truth 2 heat pts
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 P. Dedos said:
glad u said that because 3 of those rings kobe was robin


so i guess they flawed right
yeah but umm.... he done it 2 already being the man so your opinion doesnt matter




 7 years ago '06        #89
philly337 20 heat pts20
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Lol jordan averaged 7 more ppg with the bulls and shot over 50%...kobe has never even shot over 50%

Scoring - jordan..more points more efficiently
Long range - kobe
Mid range - jordan...maybe even
Anything inside 18 feet - jordan
Better passer - jordan (prob worse part of kobe game)
Offensive rebounding - jordan


Not one thing other then threes you can say kobe is better at while every other category other then mid range jordan is better by a landslide

Magic is a better offensive player then kobe...offense is not just scoring


Last edited by philly337; 07-25-2010 at 05:11 PM..
 7 years ago '06        #90
teh truth 2 heat pts
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 P. Dedos said:
wait wait wait thats what u said buddy

d wade is the 3rd best player u say... in those days shaq was the best !!!! league mvp so you lose again


and ok so lebron is the robin!!! THATS FINE BY ME GIVE THE SHINE TO MY BOY WADE!!!


THE COOKIE MONSTER so lets get to those chips
and yet how many rings does shaq have now? wat about kobe?



u can keep saying kobe was robin but he has more rings than shaq and wade

5 rings>>>4 rings

5ring>1

5rings>0 plus 2 mvps


its a shame media hates on kobe cuz he would have more mvps by now

larry bird" it disgust me that kobe didnt win 1 mvp yet makes me want to give one of mine to him"
 7 years ago '09        #91
NLSP42 150 heat pts150
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You came on a message board filled with Kobe stans and mostly laker lovers and expect to get an unbiased opinion on Kobe hahahaha
 7 years ago '07        #92
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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 philly337 said:
Lol jordan averaged 7 more ppg with the bulls and shot over 50%...kobe has never even shot over 50%

Scoring - jordan..more points more efficiently
Long range - kobe
Mid range - jordan...maybe even
Anything inside 18 feet - jordan
Better passer - jordan (prob worse part of kobe game)
Offensive rebounding - jordan


Not one thing other then threes you can say kobe is better at while every other category other then mid range jordan is better by a landslide

Magic is a better offensive player then kobe...offense is not just scoring
stopped at Better passer - jordan...are u insane? i wish i could revoke ur bxsc pass...cuz u dont watch basketball and u wanna comment
 7 years ago '04        #93
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 philly337 said:
Lol jordan averaged 7 more ppg with the bulls and shot over 50%...kobe has never even shot over 50%

Scoring - jordan..more points more efficiently
Long range - kobe
Mid range - jordan...maybe even
Anything inside 18 feet - jordan
Better passer - jordan (prob worse part of kobe game)
Offensive rebounding - jordan


Not one thing other then threes you can say kobe is better at while every other category other then mid range jordan is better by a landslide

Magic is a better offensive player then kobe...offense is not just scoring

rofl


man gtfoh


long range - kobe
midrange - kobe
post game - kobe
passing - kobe

the ONLY thing offensively i give jordan is that after like 7 years he had better shot selection, and he could do more things by palming the ball


phil jackson coached both players and said that really the only thing MJ had over kobeis that MJ had bigger hands


greater range >>>> bigger hands tho

kobe = GOAT
 7 years ago '07        #94
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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Jordan loves the Kobe comparisons has always embraced it...speaks volumes
 7 years ago '07        #95
Cambury 39 heat pts39
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even if Mike said that Kobe was better himself these dudes would still argue
 7 years ago '04        #96
erickonasis 20 heat pts20
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 abstractq said:
smh

look. . .its really not that difficult to understand

people like AI, Durant, Bron, Wade when they won were the only scoring options their teams have. Their whole offense runs through them at all times, so as a result they got scoring titles over kobe

When kobe was the the only scoring option his team had, he was puttin up scoring numbers that DWARFED the rest of the NBA


early on in his career he shared with Snaq. . .lnow he shares with Paul and Bynum and the squad


but dont get it twisted. . .Kobes the best, most complete offensive player the NBA ever had. Also one of the best defending guards the NBA has ever had


aka

the GOAT
 07-25-2010, 05:18 PM         #97
malikmoore9  OP
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Scoring - jordan..more points more efficiently
Long range - kobe
Mid range - jordan...maybe even
Anything inside 18 feet - jordan
Better passer - jordan (prob worse part of kobe game)
Offensive rebounding - jordan
You needed a little help so I was willing to lend a hand

Scoring- Kobe the only reason Jordan had the effiiciency was because he had no range outside of 20 ft
Long range- Kobe no (ifs ands or buts on this)
Mid range- tied both have outstanding fadeaways
anything inside 18 feet- also tied Jordan could attack the basket with the best of them but Kobe's post game is k!lling J right now.
Passing- tied you never really watched MJ play huh his best passes are on fast breaks not set plays. And Kobe has been a great passer in his career when he had players to pass to.
Offensive rebounding- Jordan this is a category that MJ has sowed up between the two
 07-25-2010, 05:28 PM         #98
malikmoore9  OP
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@ this clown saying that kobe post game is k!lling MJ's
You really don't watch basketball how many different moves have you seen Mj pull in the post. He either shot a fadeaway or he squared up and blew past his defender. Kobe literally dances on dudes in the post.
 7 years ago '04        #99
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 P. Dedos said:
@ this clown saying that kobe post game is k!lling MJ's





on that note im done man

kobe and hakeem say bye b**ch. . .
 7 years ago '07        #100
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 MPLSallstar said:
He has the best offensive skill set this league has ever seen.

Lebron and Wade was quoted saying that exact statement.
yo MJ, Jesus and Lebron could call a private meeting on who is the best offensive player ever. They could reach a decision in less than 1 minute and say "Kobe Bryant is the best offensive player ever" and n*ggas on here would still be saying but Kobe lost in 2 finals.
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