I mean what the f'k are you dudes on? ...Nas >>> Jay

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 8 years ago '08        #161
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This s**t is really 10 pages? In 2010?

I didn't even read through the thread and I know its the same..

"Jay is commercial and bites all his lyrics and only raps about blah blah blah"

"Nas is boring and can't make hits and blah blah blah"

Both n*ggas making these types of statements are retarded. They're both the best rappers in the game, at the least they're both top 5.

In my list Jay is above Nas, but can see how someone could have the vice versa.


tl;dr: STFU about this s**t already.
 8 years ago '08        #162
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Jay has Beyonce.
Nas is paying child support.
who lost?
 8 years ago '05        #163
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Music wise NaS got it.. His catalog against jay's is not even funny at the moment. and i'm not even talkin album cuts i'm talkin tracks NaS have that didn't make any album....To each is own though but be realistic.
 8 years ago '04        #164
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Greatest Freestyle of All Time - Thread Closed


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I been crushing the buildings since Izod socks
I'm so independent, s**t I might buy Koch
I might not stop, places to cop
76 floors you can call me the Doc...

Inspired by Basquiat, my chariots of fire
Everybody took shots hit my body up I'm tired
Build me up, break me down, to build me up again
They like Hov we need you back so we can k!ll your a.ss again
Hov got flow though he's no Big and Pac but he's close
How I'm supposed to win they got me f!ghting ghosts.....

Same sword they knight you they gone good night you with
s**t that's only half if they like you
That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael.

See Martin, see Malcolm
You see Biggie, see Pac, see success and it's outcome
See Jesus, see Judas
See Ceasar, see Brutus
See success is like suicide
suicide, it's a suicide
If you succeed prepare to be crucified
Hmm, media meddles, n*ggas sue you you settle
Every step you take they remind you, you ghetto
So it's tough being Bobby Brown
To be Bobby then, you gotta be Bobby now
Now the question is is to have had and lost
Better than not having at... man.

Everybody want to be the king til shots ring
You laying in the balcony with holes in your dream
Or you Malcolm Xed out getting distracted by screams
Everybody get your hands off my jeans!
Everybody look at you strange, say you changed
Uh, like you work that hard to stay the same
Uh, game stayed the same, the name changed
So it's best for those to not overdose on being famous
Most kings get driven so insane
That they try to hit the same vein that Kurt Cobain did
New dangers, so strangers invited to the inner sanctum of your chambers
Low chained them, the enemy's approaching so raise your draw bridge and
drown him in the moat
In the spirit I'm evoking kurt with...(unintelligible)

Everybody screaming they want the old Hov
But the new and improved Hov hit like Albert Pujols
Everybody wanna hear me talk that money like Phil Rizzuto
But my mind is on Pluto
Bills that I do fold I now invest
on trying to find some loopholes in the IRS
Swear I used to have a few hoes I am just
Concentrating on making a new Hov through s3x
I've awaken just to try to school those putos
Trying to follow in my shoes with jewels-froze
Better adhere to this text 'fore you go
Broke spending more than you accrued on silly baguettes
I know silly begets, silly you learn on your own
At least my conscience is clear I'm no longer steering you wrong
Ain't nothing wrong with baguettes after you get a home
Take care of your home, you can go back and um....

I'm getting courted by the bosses, the Edgars and Doug Morrises-sss
Jimmy I and Lyor's-sss
Gotta be more than choruses-sss
They respecting my mind now, just a matter of time now
Operation take over corporate
Make Oval offices-sss
Then take over all of it
Please may these words be recorded
To serve as testimony that I saw it all before it
Came to fruition, sort of a premonition
Uh, uncontrollable hustler's ambition
Alias superstitition like Stevie,
The writing's on the wall like my lady, right BB?
Saw it all before so they all thought I was crazy
Maybe, like a fox I'm cagey
Ah, ah, the more successful, the more stressful
The more and more I transform to Gordan Gekko
In the race to a billion, got my face to the ceiling
Got my knees on the floor, please Lord forgive him
Has he lost his religion, is the greed gonna get him?
He's having heaven on earth, will his wings still fit him?
I got the Forbes on my living room floor
And I'm so close to the core, mu f**ker I want more
Time's most influential was impressive
Especially since I wasn't in the artist's section
Had me with the builders and the titans
Had me right with Rupert Murdoch
The billionaire boys and some dudes you never heard of
Word up on Madison Ave is I'm a cash cow
Word down on Wall St. homie you get the cash out
IPO Hov no need for reverse merger
The boy money talk no need to converse further
The baby blue Maybach like I own Gerber
Boardroom I'm lifting your skirt up
The corporate take ....n*gga.
 8 years ago '08        #165
The N 538 heat pts538
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Jay z is a Rapper

Nas is an MC


MC>>>rapper

poll says it all

Camels LOST
 8 years ago '04        #166
God_Manifested 19 heat pts19
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 The N said:
Jay z is a Rapper

Nas is an MC


MC>>>rapper

poll says it all

Camels LOST
I prefer the sounscan poll, dueces.
 8 years ago '08        #167
nattidred 16 heat pts16
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
Greatest Freestyle of All Time - Thread Closed
Too bad he couldn't stand next to big L

Nas>>>>
 8 years ago '04        #168
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 8 years ago '04        #169
DJ Maximum|M 51 heat pts51
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 The N said:
Jay z is a Rapper

Nas is an MC


MC>>>rapper

poll says it all

Camels LOST
JAY-Z IS AN ARTIST

Nas is a MC
 8 years ago '09        #170
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 M.C.daHUSTLA said:
Greatest Freestyle of All Time - Thread Closed



I been crushing the buildings since Izod socks
I'm so independent, s**t I might buy Koch
I might not stop, places to cop
76 floors you can call me the Doc...

Inspired by Basquiat, my chariots of fire
Everybody took shots hit my body up I'm tired
Build me up, break me down, to build me up again
They like Hov we need you back so we can k!ll your a.ss again
Hov got flow though he's no Big and Pac but he's close
How I'm supposed to win they got me f!ghting ghosts.....

Same sword they knight you they gone good night you with
s**t that's only half if they like you
That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael.

See Martin, see Malcolm
You see Biggie, see Pac, see success and it's outcome
See Jesus, see Judas
See Ceasar, see Brutus
See success is like suicide
suicide, it's a suicide
If you succeed prepare to be crucified
Hmm, media meddles, n*ggas sue you you settle
Every step you take they remind you, you ghetto
So it's tough being Bobby Brown
To be Bobby then, you gotta be Bobby now
Now the question is is to have had and lost
Better than not having at... man.

Everybody want to be the king til shots ring
You laying in the balcony with holes in your dream
Or you Malcolm Xed out getting distracted by screams
Everybody get your hands off my jeans!
Everybody look at you strange, say you changed
Uh, like you work that hard to stay the same
Uh, game stayed the same, the name changed
So it's best for those to not overdose on being famous
Most kings get driven so insane
That they try to hit the same vein that Kurt Cobain did
New dangers, so strangers invited to the inner sanctum of your chambers
Low chained them, the enemy's approaching so raise your draw bridge and
drown him in the moat
In the spirit I'm evoking kurt with...(unintelligible)

Everybody screaming they want the old Hov
But the new and improved Hov hit like Albert Pujols
Everybody wanna hear me talk that money like Phil Rizzuto
But my mind is on Pluto
Bills that I do fold I now invest
on trying to find some loopholes in the IRS
Swear I used to have a few hoes I am just
Concentrating on making a new Hov through s3x
I've awaken just to try to school those putos
Trying to follow in my shoes with jewels-froze
Better adhere to this text 'fore you go
Broke spending more than you accrued on silly baguettes
I know silly begets, silly you learn on your own
At least my conscience is clear I'm no longer steering you wrong
Ain't nothing wrong with baguettes after you get a home
Take care of your home, you can go back and um....

I'm getting courted by the bosses, the Edgars and Doug Morrises-sss
Jimmy I and Lyor's-sss
Gotta be more than choruses-sss
They respecting my mind now, just a matter of time now
Operation take over corporate
Make Oval offices-sss
Then take over all of it
Please may these words be recorded
To serve as testimony that I saw it all before it
Came to fruition, sort of a premonition
Uh, uncontrollable hustler's ambition
Alias superstitition like Stevie,
The writing's on the wall like my lady, right BB?
Saw it all before so they all thought I was crazy
Maybe, like a fox I'm cagey
Ah, ah, the more successful, the more stressful
The more and more I transform to Gordan Gekko
In the race to a billion, got my face to the ceiling
Got my knees on the floor, please Lord forgive him
Has he lost his religion, is the greed gonna get him?
He's having heaven on earth, will his wings still fit him?
I got the Forbes on my living room floor
And I'm so close to the core, mu f**ker I want more
Time's most influential was impressive
Especially since I wasn't in the artist's section
Had me with the builders and the titans
Had me right with Rupert Murdoch
The billionaire boys and some dudes you never heard of
Word up on Madison Ave is I'm a cash cow
Word down on Wall St. homie you get the cash out
IPO Hov no need for reverse merger
The boy money talk no need to converse further
The baby blue Maybach like I own Gerber
Boardroom I'm lifting your skirt up
The corporate take ....n*gga.
 8 years ago '08        #171
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 nkflier54 said:
Eminem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both these n*ggas :agreement6:
@ you jumping on Ems d!ck but Nas>>Em>>Jay
 8 years ago '09        #172
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N.A.S.

Nas
 8 years ago '08        #173
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 nkflier54 said:
Eminem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both these n*ggas :agreement6:
actually Nicki >>>>>>>> all 3 of em lames :agreement6:
 8 years ago '05        #174
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I like both, depending on what mood i'm I prefer either. Lyrically Nas has always been proficient and arguably GOAT lyricist, whereas Jay's flow is his bread and butter. I can't believe the amount of people who say Jay aint lyrical, as if Reasonable Doubt, Volume 1 and the Black Album didnt exist, (I regard Black Album lyrically > Blueprint lyrically). I mean I can listen to Nas' weaker stuff and its still lyrically there, but as total songs is where sometimes he faulters where as Jay normally crafts entire songs as opposed to Nas, jst look at Street Disciple, Nas lyrically is still great but its masked by jut poor overall songs. People jut a.ssume Jay aint lyrical cause he doesnt pack all these syllables or whatever, dude still drops gems that you dont realise.

To me why I prefer Jay over Nas is because Jay songs IMO work on 2 levels, mainstream, so your casual fan will pick up on, then also drops s**t in the same song that has a different meaning to heads, he has his stuff well layered. With Nas, not saying he doesnt, but he either is lyrically there telling a story (which is my favourite aspect of hip hop), or is on his political (at times preachy) s**t, he's just a stand up MC, a highly skilled straight up MC.

Either way I dont see how top 5's can include 1, but not the other.

P.S to the Eminem trolls lurking, The only albums you put up for debate is MMLP and Eminem Show, how the f**k can you Em be so called "GOAT" with 1 borderline classic and a very very good album? Cause last time I checked, Black Thouht is 9 albums deep dropping straight verses all the time?
 8 years ago '08        #175
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 sheedawg said:
I like both, depending on what mood i'm I prefer either. Lyrically Nas has always been proficient and arguably GOAT lyricist, whereas Jay's flow is his bread and butter. I can't believe the amount of people who say Jay aint lyrical, as if Reasonable Doubt, Volume 1 and the Black Album didnt exist, (I regard Black Album lyrically > Blueprint lyrically). I mean I can listen to Nas' weaker stuff and its still lyrically there, but as total songs is where sometimes he faulters where as Jay normally crafts entire songs as opposed to Nas, jst look at Street Disciple, Nas lyrically is still great but its masked by jut poor overall songs. People jut a.ssume Jay aint lyrical cause he doesnt pack all these syllables or whatever, dude still drops gems that you dont realise.

To me why I prefer Jay over Nas is because Jay songs IMO work on 2 levels, mainstream, so your casual fan will pick up on, then also drops s**t in the same song that has a different meaning to heads, he has his stuff well layered. With Nas, not saying he doesnt, but he either is lyrically there telling a story (which is my favourite aspect of hip hop), or is on his political (at times preachy) s**t, he's just a stand up MC, a highly skilled straight up MC.

Either way I dont see how top 5's can include 1, but not the other.

P.S to the Eminem trolls lurking, The only albums you put up for debate is MMLP and Eminem Show, how the f**k can you Em be so called "GOAT" with 1 borderline classic and a very very good album? Cause last time I checked, Black Thouht is 9 albums deep dropping straight verses all the time?
Show me where anyone said Eminem was the goat?

MMLP, TES, and SSLP are all classic with Recovery being a good album, Relapse was ehh and Encore disappointed. A lot of people sleeping on Infinite, great underground album.

 8 years ago '09        #176
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^^infinite was average some good songs but he really didn't come into his own till sslp...Also Black Thought need more shine he number 3 in my top 10
 8 years ago '08        #177
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 thegoldenhero said:
^^infinite was average some good songs but he really didn't come into his own till sslp...Also Black Thought need more shine he number 3 in my top 10
He was trying to throw his name out there with Infinite still a good album and lyrically it's insane

And people these days don't respect real hip hop or know what it is

Black Thought is definitely one of the best MC's ever
 8 years ago '08        #178
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 AK1 said:
yup, infinite might not have been all that..
but at least dr. dre saw somethin, and created a monster...
Dre discovered him with SSEP not Infinite
 8 years ago '05        #179
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honestly if you think that jay is on the same level as nas lyrically ...i feel sorry for your mother
 8 years ago '05        #180
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Damn people still on the jay-z vs. nas thing?? Well here's my opinion, Nas is better than jay music wise-lyrics, flow, content, everything. Nas has got it hands down. His album catalouge s**ts on jay's. Jay may have more hits but none of his songs is better than Nas's. But when it come to s**t outside music, Jay is the man, hes way smarter than nas, and nas is an intelligent dude. Jay has made very smart business decisions, didnt succumb to stupid a.ss beefs unless it was worthy, eg. Nas, aint knock up no stupid b**ches like nas did with carmen and the crazed madness that is Kelis, and got the baddest b**ch in the game, need i say more? I really think the reason Nas took L's like he did in his life is because of the weed. Weed make you do dum s**t like marry crazy, not that attractive looking b**ches like Kelis talkin bout i want half when she clearly can make her own money.

Nas is one of the GOAT's musically, Jay-Z is one of the GOAT's at life.
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