Anyone who thinks that kobe isnt a better clutch preformer than jordan

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 8 years ago '07        #161
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 A.O.™ said:
Another Fallacy, not in this lifetime.. If Kobe and Jordan were equal skill.. Look at Jordans top 10 highlights, and look at Kobes top 10 highlights.. and explain to me why Kobes are all jump shots, and Jordan include him dunking on all the top centers of his time? Kobe's fadeaway is nothing like Mikes, Kobe's post game is nothing like Mikes, Kobe's jumping ability is nothing like Mikes. All Kobe can do a lil bit better than Jordan is shoot the 3 ball, and thats cause Jordan didnt need to bail himself out shooting 3's, he could take it to a n*ggas neck at will.
His fadeaway is "nothing like mikes"?
Kobe's post game is "nothing like mikes" ? Correct! its better
Jordan could jump higher, but not by that much when kobe was younger.
Kobe is also a better ball handler
Kobe is a better scorer.
Kobe is also the best closer of all time

Aside from acheivements, the only thing that jordan holds over kobe is Defense..and its not like kobe cant play d

Lol @ n*ggas who never watched jordan play, say he's the goat without question , having such a closed mind. Shame on you
 05-09-2010, 06:52 PM         #162
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 philly337 said:
wow don't even know where to begin with this dumb s**t.First of all u ever wonder what woudld have happen if kobe went to the sixers and didn't ride on shaqs coat tails to 3 chips?Also get the f**k outta here with this pippen s**t...jordan was just as good a defender...pippen was a little better on ball defender and was a lot longer but mike was just as good on defense

now that that's out the way u stupid a.ss...how about when jordan won DPOY it was scottie's rookie season and he played a HUGGGEEE 10 games

step ur bball iq up.I know u'll get mad u made such a stupid statement and come back with anoter moronic post but atleast try to have ur facts in order
thats my point stupid it shows its no stock in the f**king awards you flaunt scottie is the goat defender and doesnt have multiple ones u f**king clown. u stupid f**k i actually watched mike that year and how the f**k could scottie have gotten it when he came off the bench? u probably think u won this arguement or u got one up but u lost . i thought due to my past arguement ud have atlest enough common sense to know that i actually knew this but i gave u more credit than u deserve and kobe was drafted by the hornets u dumb f**k and rode shaqs coattails? shaq had a better team in orlando with more talents so who rode who? kobes won all his ships as a equal contributor or ldear has shaq? think about it and i had my fact in order the fact that i didnt mention scottie in the dpoy makes look bad for not knowing what a fact was or is. try that i didnt include him next time and u wont look as bad
 8 years ago '06        #163
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 dj mannie fresh said:
thats my point stupid it shows its no stock in the f**king awards you flaunt scottie is the goat defender and doesnt have multiple ones u f**king clown. u stupid f**k i actually watched mike that year and how the f**k could scottie have gotten it when he came off the bench? u probably think u won this arguement or u got one up but u lost . i thought due to my past arguement ud have atlest enough common sense to know that i actually knew this but i gave u more credit than u deserve and kobe was drafted by the hornets u dumb f**k and rode shaqs coattails? shaq had a better team in orlando with more talents so who rode who? kobes won all his ships as a equal contributor or ldear has shaq? think about it and i had my fact in order the fact that i didnt mention scottie in the dpoy makes look bad for not knowing what a fact was or is. try that i didnt include him next time and u wont look as bad
ahahah this s**t is hilarious..backpeddlin like s**t "oh i knew i just thought u knew that i knew" hahaha shut the f**k up

michael jordan lead the league in steals and averaged more blocks per game then some centers in the league.I would looovvveee to know who deserved the DPOY over jordan that year.Also pippen never won one and jordan ONLY won one (despite leading league in steals 3 times) because they were playin in a league with some of the greatest defenders ever.Show me a year pippen should have won DPOY.Mourning,mutumbo,payton,olajuwan,robinson,and rodman all deserved their awards

and at shaq ridin kobe to the finals


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 8 years ago '09        #164
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 TanstA! said:
I look at Kobe at as MJ Jr He always reminded me of MJ with how he played..... They both are TOP 5 Dead or alive anyway.....

even tansta knows wasup.
 8 years ago '09        #165
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 kidbrosweets said:
Their highlights make one player better than the other ?





f**king idiot
:agreement6:

but you know these fools think their opinions mean more than some one who actually COACHED both mj and kobe.:rolleyes2:
 8 years ago '06        #166
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 WilliamET09 said:
:agreement6:

but you know these fools think their opinions mean more than some one who actually COACHED both mj and kobe.:rolleyes2:
lol he said it while he's still coachin him..so if stan van gundy comes out and says howard is more skilled then o'neal..we just got chalk it up
 8 years ago '08        #167
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Shaq said Wade was the best 2 guard he ever played with......So whats your point?
 8 years ago '07        #168
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skilled doesnt mean he was better...why are people so offended?
if Phil can't have an opinion on this than im convinced yall are debating with emotions
 8 years ago '07        #169
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 philly337 said:
lol he said it while he's still coachin him..so if stan van gundy comes out and says howard is more skilled then o'neal..we just got chalk it up
Hence why he's never come out and made that comment about howard.

Honestly, i wont be surprised if 2012 happens, because i believe god has realized people like you aren't worthy enough to inhabit the earth...
 8 years ago '07        #170
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 Main Event said:
Shaq said Wade was the best 2 guard he ever played with......So whats your point?
Shaq's opinion is clearly unbiased.

What's your point ?

 8 years ago '08        #171
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 kidbrosweets said:
Shaq's opinion is clearly unbiased.

What's your point ?
Unbiased or just showing love for who he was currently playing with? He also said the Suns were the best team he's ever played with and that includes he's one titles with what does that tell you?
 05-09-2010, 07:11 PM         #172
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Rebounding? Jordan>Kobe (6 Rebounds a game>5)
Passing? Jordan>Kobe (5 dimes>4... and @ the numbers he would have with Shaq)
Scoring? Jordan>Kobe (30 points 49% regular season 33 points 48% playoffs>25 points 45% a regular season 25 points 44% playoffs) and 11 scoring titles.
Defense? Jordan>Kobe by a mile. And dude would never have had to ASK to be on Westbrook first sign of him going off he would put the cuffs on him

Kobe has a better 3 but n*gga's act like hes Ray Allen. Jordan didn't need the three and still won 11 scoring titles and topped 30 points 8 times. And lets not forget his 88-89 season of 32 points 8 boards and 8 dimes..

Kobe is nice and will go down in the top 15 but he aint now and I doubt he ever will be better then Jordan.
 8 years ago '07        #173
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 Main Event said:
Unbiased or just showing love for who he was currently playing with? He also said the Suns were the best team he's ever played with and that includes he's one titles with what does that tell you?
a) unbiased was my attempt at sarcasim. apparently you;re too slow.
b)You're kidding me right? Do you actually hate kobe that much or are you seriously that stupid?


Like, dead a.ss? I would really like a response to the questioned mentioned above.
 8 years ago '08        #174
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 kidbrosweets said:
a) unbiased was my attempt at sarcasim. apparently you;re too slow.
b)You're kidding me right? Do you actually hate kobe that much or are you seriously that stupid?


Like, dead a.ss? I would really like a response to the questioned mentioned above.
Im on the record for saying Kobe>>>LeBron so i obviously dont hate him that much...But me saying he's not better then Jordan is hating now a days i guess
 8 years ago '07        #175
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 Hurricane Ra said:
Rebounding? Jordan>Kobe (6 Rebounds a game>5)
Passing? Jordan>Kobe (5 dimes>4... and @ the numbers he would have with Shaq)
Scoring? Jordan>Kobe (30 points 49% regular season 33 points 48% playoffs>25 points 45% a regular season 25 points 44% playoffs) and 11 scoring titles.
Defense? Jordan>Kobe by a mile. And dude would never have had to ASK to be on Westbrook first sign of him going off he would put the cuffs on him

Kobe has a better 3 but n*gga's act like hes Ray Allen. Jordan didn't need the three and still won 11 scoring titles and topped 30 points 8 times. And lets not forget his 88-89 season of 32 points 8 boards and 8 dimes..

Kobe is nice and will go down in the top 15 but he aint now and I doubt he ever will be better then Jordan.
Because jordan averaged 1 more a.ssist hes a better passer?
Jordan is ABSOLUTELY not a better scorer. He averaged more points...and? Kobe is the most unguardable player in nba history, and its not even close.

Defense "by a mile" > kobe

that's where i stopped reading


PLEASE stick to soccer


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 8 years ago '07        #176
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 Main Event said:
Im on the record for saying Kobe>>>LeBron so i obviously dont hate him that much...But me saying he's not better then Jordan is hating now a days i guess
No, you saying that because shaquille o'neal, ( a player who hates bryant) thinks dwyane wade is better than him...that's showing how far you will stretch to make an irrelevant point.

Child please. you're better than that
 8 years ago '08        #177
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 kidbrosweets said:
No, you saying that because shaquille o'neal, ( a player who hates bryant) thinks dwyane wade is better than him...that's showing how far you will stretch to make an irrelevant point.

Child please. you're better than that
Obviously you're not seeing the point, Shaq was hyping a player he was playing with by making a statement that people thought was incorrect (Phil is hyping up a player he's coaching that people thought was incorrect) im saying this tends to happen when you're playing with or coaching a person


Kobe's nice as hell he's not Jordan
 8 years ago '07        #178
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 Main Event said:
Obviously you're not seeing the point, Shaq was hyping a player he was playing with by making a statement that people thought was incorrect (Phil is hyping up a player he's coaching that people thought was incorrect) im saying this tends to happen when you're playing with or coaching a person


Kobe's nice as hell he's not Jordan
NO !YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE POINT.

Shaq was clearly saying that to take a shot at Kobe. Its not the same thing at all, how do you not see that. i mean seriously. people say that shaq's statement was incorrect, because it was and is.


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 8 years ago '07        #179
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this a dumb argument cuz at the time DWade couldnt have been the best guard he ever played with because he won 3 championships with one of the top 5 greatest guards in history
 8 years ago '07        #180
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 Cambury said:
this a dumb argument cuz at the time DWade couldnt have been the best guard he ever played with because he won 3 championships with one of the top 5 greatest guards in history
thank you. that n*gga actually thinks shaq believed that s**t. Some people you really just cant get through too. n*ggas got something clogged between his ears and his brain.
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