Why is Jay-Z not promoting J. Cole like he should?

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 8 years ago '05        #21
ondareal 
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
Um dumbass, do you not remember roc la familia?
Exactly. n*ggas act like Jay aint do s**t for the Roc. Amil, Young Guns, Freeway, Memph, Beans, ALL dropped albums. Most of em dropped multiple albums. Sparks was on the chorus to one of Jays biggest hits ever. It aint Jay fault none of those dudes really could make hits.

The first person who had true star quality, KANYE WEST, Jay f**ked wit em.
 8 years ago '04        #22
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 Smiff_Beats said:
Jay placing him on his BP3 album aint promoting? Jay taking dude on his tour aint promoting?

I dunno what is then.
yea, but you know a lot of ppl take Jay's words as gospel, he can at least mention J. Cole in his interviews, or even compare the two when asked about Drake...
 8 years ago '05        #23
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
Um dumbass, do you not remember roc la familia?
That was a Jay-Z album full of features, just like most of his others
 05-04-2010, 11:56 AM         #24
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 ondareal said:
Exactly. n*ggas act like Jay aint do s**t for the Roc. Amil, Young Guns, Freeway, Memph, Beans, ALL dropped albums. Most of em dropped multiple albums. Sparks was on the chorus to one of Jays biggest hits ever. It aint Jay fault none of those dudes really could make hits.

The first person who had true star quality, KANYE WEST, Jay f**ked wit em.
Not completely Jay aint wont Ye to drop an album
he just wanted the beats Dame f**ked with Ye
 8 years ago '05        #25
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 ondareal said:
Exactly. n*ggas act like Jay aint do s**t for the Roc. Amil, Young Guns, Freeway, Memph, Beans, ALL dropped albums. Most of em dropped multiple albums. Sparks was on the chorus to one of Jays biggest hits ever. It aint Jay fault none of those dudes really could make hits.
DAME handled Roc-A-Fella more than Jay, stop it.

 ondareal said:
The first person who had true star quality, KANYE WEST, Jay f**ked wit em.
...as a producer...
 05-04-2010, 11:57 AM         #26
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Name one time in the history of rap that a rapper coming out under another rappers wing has went on to have a long successful career. After you think about that, would you make the same mistakes YOU and others have made in the past.
 05-04-2010, 11:58 AM         #27
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^No it wasnt. It was album made specifically to promote his artists on the ROC. You know that label he created with biggs and dame?. He put his name on it, and called it a solo so he could sell more records. I thought this was common knowledge
 8 years ago '05        #28
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 TeddyGramz said:
Not completely Jay aint wont Ye to drop an album
he just wanted the beats Dame f**ked with Ye
Right. That was UNTIL Ye proved himself. Just cuz Jay aint notice his talent at first, dont mean he didnt f**k wit him after he proved himself. All those dudes signed to the Roc dropped albums. Not that all of the albums were wack, but none of em had star quality.
 8 years ago '05        #29
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 *eckounltd1972* said:
DAME handled Roc-A-Fella more than Jay, stop it.



...as a producer...
So Jay only f**k wit Kanye as a producer? He didnt have a verse on College Dropout? Kanye West wasnt on "the bounce"? Kanye West didnt have two features on BP3? Stop it
 05-04-2010, 12:06 PM         #30
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Good question...Ima big Jigga fan but I do see that he isnt really into pushing artists. After betting all his chips on Bleek I guess he said to himself "f**k that s**t..."--- Look at Kanye. Jay-Z didnt push Kanye. Dame put Kanye on(rapping wise) and Kanye promoted himself.
 05-04-2010, 12:07 PM         #31
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I find it hilarious the lengths people go to hate on jay-z.

Like Jay-Z is n*ggas father and s**t. Who carried jay-z's hand to legendary status?
NOBODY. Jay-Z gave cole a platform, its up to him what to do with it.
 05-04-2010, 12:08 PM         #32
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 ondareal said:
So Jay only f**k wit Kanye as a producer? He didnt have a verse on College Dropout? Kanye West wasnt on "the bounce"? Kanye West didnt have two features on BP3? Stop it
That was AFTER Ye went and blew up folks was showing him love
Jay heard all Ye s**t before the public did and he wasnt feeling him as a rapper
He told him it wouldnt work
Dame backed Ye as a rapper
Jay only back Ye AFTER he saw the success and the money....
 05-04-2010, 12:08 PM         #33
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
I find it hilarious the lengths people go to hate on jay-z.

Like Jay-Z is n*ggas father and s**t. Who carried jay-z's hand to legendary status?
NOBODY. Jay-Z gave cole a platform, its up to him what to do with it.
 8 years ago '05        #34
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 ondareal said:
So Jay only f**k wit Kanye as a producer? He didnt have a verse on College Dropout? Kanye West wasnt on "the bounce"? Kanye West didnt have two features on BP3? Stop it
Kanye was signed to ROC because Dame believed in him as a producer AND rapper. Jay only wanted him as a producer, and once he started blowing up Jay does his usual "leech to whoever is popular" thing, and the rest is history...
 05-04-2010, 12:12 PM         #35
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 TeddyGramz said:
That was AFTER Ye went and blew up folks was showing him love
Jay heard all Ye s**t before the public did and he wasnt feeling him as a rapper
He told him it wouldnt work
Dame backed Ye as a rapper
Jay only back Ye AFTER he saw the success and the money....
n*gga what are you talking about? Bounce was released in 2002, a full year before CD. He only backed him after the success? Again what are you talking about, jay was on two songs on his album, he didnt know through the wire was gonna blow, this is BEFORE ye got big.

Yes I agree with what you said that dame is the one who always backed ye but lets not act as if hov didnt jump on ye's s**t.
 05-04-2010, 12:14 PM         #36
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 *eckounltd1972* said:
Kanye was signed to ROC because Dame believed in him as a producer AND rapper. Jay only wanted him as a producer, and once he started blowing up Jay does his usual "leech to whoever is popular" thing, and the rest is history...
Yes because jay knew exactly that through the wire would become as popular as it did

man you're k!lling me with your dumbass comments in this thread
 8 years ago '08        #37
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cause it's Jay Z.....camel a.ss niggga
 05-04-2010, 12:19 PM         #38
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n*gga what are you talking about? Bounce was released in 2002, a full year before CD. He only backed him after the success? Again what are you talking about, jay was on two songs on his album, he didnt know through the wire was gonna blow, this is BEFORE ye got big.

Yes I agree with what you said that dame is the one who always backed ye but lets not act as if hov didnt jump on ye's s**t.
I'm glad you know rap better than the NBA. I still cant believe u dont think Mark Jackson was a great player.

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 8 years ago '05        #39
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If you ask me he's goin about it pretty much the right way...Like others have mentioned, he's letting Cole build his own brand instead of being dragged behind jay... When I'm puttin somebody new onto Cole or they ask "this niga spittin who is this?" all I say is something like "After the Roc broke up and Jay started the Roc Nation label this is the 1st artist he started it off with...people comparing him to Drake kuz he's a new dude in the game that can actually spit and make good songs but when it comes to rapping most ppl who know about both will tell you Cole is by far the better rapper. Whereas Drake is slowly but surely becoming another rapper for the females, Cole is somebody real nigas can relate to and that hunger shows in his raps". And then after my brief introduction I tell em to really LISTEN to the words and I let Cole do the rest.
 05-04-2010, 12:32 PM         #40
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wasn't he on tour with jay? You gotta earn your keep if your around jay-z, simple as that. J cole needs to put out mixtapes and push himself like hov did.....
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