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 03-26-2010, 02:57 AM         #101
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McNabb to Raiders? Crazy, not impossible

Ray Ratto, Chronicle Staff Writer



(03-25) 19:01 PDT -- So Donovan McNabb is suddenly the Raiders' new favorite player, is he? So JaMarcus Russell will get one more chance to learn the position by watching, only this time from someone further up the quarterbacking food chain than Bruce Gradkowski?
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Yeah, well, we'll believe it six days after we see it.

In fact, the juicier the rumors get, the less believable they actually are. Like the one about McNabb and Asante Samuel coming to Oakland in exchange for Nnamdi Asomugha and his $16 million/year, plus a draft pick above No. 42 (the Raiders have Nos. 8 and 39). It makes superficial sense, but the more you think of it, the more hinky it becomes.

First, the alleged departing.

Asomugha is still a superb cornerback by any measure, and you know how Al Davis loves cornerbacks. But it's not like the Raiders were tearing up the league with him on the flank, and he makes a boatload of money that the Raiders thrust upon him with great force and persuasion.

And now the rumored new employees.

McNabb is also an eight-figure salary carrier, and of advanced years and hits. His resume, on the other hand, is only slightly tarnished by having no Super Bowl ring, and those who want to dispute his value as a quarterback just want to pick a f!ght.

And Samuel? Also of advanced football years, and his best ones are already in the rear view mirror.

But the real kicker here is Russell, who would essentially be buried in Oakland, and we're just not convinced yet that Al is ready to take that step.

The one thing we have noticed about the Raiders of late is that when people most loudly demand action from them, their desire to do nothing is strengthened. They had to fire Tom Cable and didn't. They had to get rid of Darren McFadden and waived Justin Fargas instead. They had to get a football guy to serve as a sounding board for Al and didn't.

In short, the Raiders have decided to live the contrarian lifestyle - to preface every sentence with, "No, I don't have to," and then leave the rumors to die out on their own.

This doesn't mean they're not kicking the fenders on such a trade. It doesn't mean they're turning down anything out of hand. Because listening is always free.

But deals of this size are already rare, and a McNabb deal would almost certainly mean that the Raiders have abandoned the Russell experiment after only a couple of years of misbegotten adventures and disappointments, for a quarterback who may have one or two years left on his own chassis.

That's the problem here - not that McNabb isn't an immediate upgrade, or that Russell couldn't use all the mentoring he can absorb, or that moving Asomugha's contract is a bad idea. It's that the Raiders are not just a quarterback away from greatness, and McNabb is a temporary patch that will fall off before the hole has been repaired.

And maybe this also falls under the "Al can't admit a mistake" aegis, although at this stage of both his own health and his team's competitive viability, such vanity is an unaffordable luxury.

If this deal does happen, and so far the smoke has far outdistanced the fire, it means that the Raiders are rolling some big dice on a very small window. And while Al's patience is well short of infinite, he hasn't reached that nuclear winter stage of team building, where he throws everything at the one wound bleeding the most and leaves the others to go dry on their own.

But let's be honest and also say this - a McNabb-for-Asomugha deal that also undercuts Russell is a sensational conversation starter that would energize more than just the Philadelphia market (which already has chronic Iggles on the brain) and the Bay Area market (which has not had to contrive many reasons to ignore the Raiders) but the entire NFL. It is a fragmentation grenade a few weeks before the overblown nonsense pageant that is the draft.

And whether it's a realistic deal or a daft rumor made up by three drunks in a bar in South Philly or San Leandro, who doesn't want that just for the snicks and giggles?

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 8 years ago '04        #102
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first... if we are dealing mcnabb then i would love to deal with oakland. they gave up what the 5th pick overall to NE for an OLD a.ss defensive end with one yr left on his contract. So they must be willing to deal the same for mcnabb.

with that said there's no way in hell the eagles would trade mcnabb and samuel for asomugha. like it's said, maybe sheldon would be a part of the mix, since he's already involved in trade talks. the eagles know sheldon wants to be paid and they aren't going to trade their younger CB and keep an older one who wants more money and probably isn't going to get a new deal. but even that offer might be steep for just asomugha. your most likely going to have a draft pick traded in there as well.
yeah well who knows mcnabb probably won't even be traded.
 8 years ago '10        #103
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 ABSOLUTE STYLE said:
first... if we are dealing mcnabb then i would love to deal with oakland. they gave up what the 5th pick overall to NE for an OLD a.ss defensive end with one yr left on his contract. So they must be willing to deal the same for mcnabb.

with that said there's no way in hell the eagles would trade mcnabb and samuel for asomugha. like it's said, maybe sheldon would be a part of the mix, since he's already involved in trade talks. the eagles know sheldon wants to be paid and they aren't going to trade their younger CB and keep an older one who wants more money and probably isn't going to get a new deal. but even that offer might be steep for just asomugha. your most likely going to have a draft pick traded in there as well.
yeah well who knows mcnabb probably won't even be traded.
im not sure this can happen. PHI is asking for a top 43 pick. oakland owns a second round pick which is number 38. why hasnt it happened??
 03-26-2010, 07:54 AM         #104
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
God damn.

Well if this goes thru, raider nation got another die-hard fan on board.
^^^s**t is disgusting...

God, you have no integrity at all.

But what else should I have expected from someone who was supposedly the most Die Hard Eagles fan around here.

You guys are f**ken clowns.

 03-26-2010, 07:59 AM         #105
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 Illstreet said:
^^^s**t is disgusting...

God, you have no integrity at all.

But what else should I have expected from someone who was supposedly the most Die Hard Eagles fan around here.

You guys are f**ken clowns.

Whats disgusting about me catching the games and rooting for the radiers cause my favorite player of all time might be on there?

Dumbass n*gga acting like imma be a diehard raider fan, imma be loyal to mcnabb wherever he goes but its eagles first and forever you stupid n*gga.
 8 years ago '04        #106
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No Way We Let Go Asaunte
 8 years ago '05        #107
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 PushaT5050 said:
No Way We Let Go Asaunte
i can see why they would like to move him. he doesnt tackle very well and gets beat from time to time. asmoguh has alot of hype, qbs dont even test him like that. so i cant say he's certified. at least with revis they was testing him from time to time.




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 8 years ago '04        #108
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
God damn.

Well if this goes thru, raider nation got another die-hard fan on board.

wtf? ain't you supposed to be an Eagles fan....
 8 years ago '04        #109
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
Whats disgusting about me catching the games and rooting for the radiers cause my favorite player of all time might be on there?

Dumbass n*gga acting like imma be a diehard raider fan, imma be loyal to mcnabb wherever he goes but its eagles first and forever you stupid n*gga.
mcnabb is your favorite player of all time ? wow just wow
 8 years ago '05        #110
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 erickonasis said:
mcnabb is your favorite player of all time ? wow just wow
you from philly and you a cowboys AND lakers fan , (i almost shed a tear when i saw your sig)
 03-26-2010, 10:19 AM         #111
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 erickonasis said:
mcnabb is your favorite player of all time ? wow just wow
Sorry I dont hop on and off bandwagons like yourself.
 03-26-2010, 10:20 AM         #112
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 StateProperty88 said:
you from philly and you a cowboys AND lakers fan , (i almost shed a tear when i saw your sig)
Dudes a loser, prolly jumped on those bandwagons to fit in
 8 years ago '04        #113
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 StateProperty88 said:
you from philly and you a cowboys AND lakers fan , (i almost shed a tear when i saw your sig)
been a laker fan since Magic...Been a cowboys fan since Roger...in case u didnt know your fellow eagle fan isint from philly either hes from washington. and the cowboys have been miserable for over a decade now so there really aint no bandwagon but like i said i been a fan b4 most of u lil n*ggas was born
 8 years ago '04        #114
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
Dudes a loser, prolly jumped on those bandwagons to fit in
cmon now n*gga...i could ive a fcuk about fitting in...and being a Cowboys fan and living in Philly is not easy so there goes your theory
 03-26-2010, 10:24 AM         #115
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40 years old and still posting?

Ughhhhhhhhh
 8 years ago '05        #116
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 erickonasis said:
been a laker fan since Magic...Been a cowboys fan since Roger...in case u didnt know your fellow eagle fan isint from philly either hes from washington. and the cowboys have been miserable for over a decade now so there really aint no bandwagon but like i said i been a fan b4 most of u lil n*ggas was born
nah to me i isnt about bandwagon its about hating those teams because im from philly, you been a laker fan since magic he beat us his rookie year in the finals, were you a sixers fan before magic or is was that when you was first getting into sports?
 8 years ago '05        #117
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
40 years old and still posting?

Ughhhhhhhhh
you cold face
 8 years ago '07        #118
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 THE TAKEOVER said:
God damn.

Well if this goes thru, raider nation got another die-hard fan on board.
^^^^^^^ This!!
 8 years ago '04        #119
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damm n*ggas is gonna be raider fans now ...wow.....
 03-26-2010, 10:31 AM         #120
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If people could actual read, i've addressed the issue. Of course ill cheer for the raiders IF McNabb goes, I want to see him succeed and the games will be on at 4 so it most prolly wont be conflicting with the eagles game

But be clear its still eagles all day everyday.

This is all speculation though, who knows if this s**t is even getting done
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