Mar 21 - House Passes Sweeping Health Care Reform

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 8 years ago '05        #81
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This will be the nail in BHO's re-election attempt , it will be even harder to get a job now . O well , sometimes you got to take a step back b4 you go ahead , Dem's really have been f**king up the US since 2007 .
 8 years ago '04        #82
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Cut doctors if you like. They're money hungry like any other american. They sacrifice 8+ years for the money so of course a pay cut will deal with quicker retirement or all types of unnecessary treatment. They'll Make that money back some way or jump out the business. You Gotta Understand the game.

An n*ggaz saying "I want a doctor thats going to help me and not worry about getting paid" LOL If thats the case cut the HUGE 100K Contracts and Soldiers Paychecks who sign up for military bases oversea's to protect the country. They should want to protect our country not get paid for it Right? If you cut most of the soldiers checks you wouldnt have so much enlisting. Or Cut Professional Atheles Salary Down To 60 to 70 thousand a year. LOL Watch what happens. The Worlds Ran On Money People want to live the illusion of this So Call American Dream.


All This was planned. Obama Will soon show hes only another head on the 7 headed dragon. Because just like JFK, Abraham lincoln, Malcolm X, Or MLK the sh!t he spitting if it was really an issue. I guarantee you it would be eliminated quickly.


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 8 years ago '05        #83
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Today , welcome to the USSA .

f**k The Police !
 8 years ago '07        #84
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People talking about how much this is gonna cost are just looking at that and nothing else. Do yall realize that this will actually cut the deficit??? It will actually save money.

And true it will take time to go into effect but we have to realize that this is something you can just flick on like a light switch. This is a major overhaul and its gonna take some time to implement. The whole medical industry is gonna have to be retrained.

Obama may face some scrutiny from the naysayers but it will subside. Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan both faced similiar haters when they passed Welfare reforms and bugdet reforms. But the positives of those bills eventually came to light over time as will Obama's plan for healthcare.

And to those saying that Obama will suffer for this........you are just plain ignorant. The man said he was gonna do this from day one and he got elected on that promise. So how can a promise kept be a negative??? The only ones oppossing now or the same ones who oppossed then. And my daddy always told me just becuz you talk the loudest and make a scene doesnt make you right. They making a lot of noise with these protests......but they aint right.
 03-22-2010, 08:24 AM         #85
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 MosDefinition said:
woah woah slow down there champ hes got a loooooong way to go for that
I dont really see how far he has to go to be one of the greatest presidents. The majority of them (especially the one's that weren't murdered) were s**tty.
 8 years ago '04        #86
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im commiting suicide the fuking bill passed by 3 votes! This is after obama sucked everyone's d*ck and offered millions and millions of dollars just for a "YES" vote. I don't like presidents that suck d*ck to get where they want. Obama is a ho in it's finest form
 8 years ago '04        #87
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If you want america to stop spending money and save money. Teach them how to cut spending and save money. Lead by example. Or better yet if you want america to remain healthy teach them how to eat. n*gga's gon keep dying if they getting these WacArnolds cheeseburgers for a dollar. Its all business. Let this so call "Swine Flu" Break out again. People gon be wrapped around the doctor office like The Club.
 8 years ago '04        #88
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 bobbysteels18 said:
and i feel sorry for them people making over 250,000 they really gonna feel this.
smfh........Hope this is a joke
 8 years ago '08        #89
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For the people talking about the price, just know that currently the US spends more per person for healthcare, and it has the highest percentage of GDP spent on healthcare among developed countries.

And this is WITH all those people being uninsured.
 8 years ago '05        #90
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 erickonasis said:
smfh........Hope this is a joke

n*gga you dont make more than $250,000 a year... and even if you did your medicare tax only goes up by 3%
 8 years ago '08        #91
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All right, lets put a public option on this b**ch and get rolling in the right direction....
 8 years ago '08        #92
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Some of the very good of this bill

WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR OF ENACTMENT

*Insurance companies will be barred from dropping people from coverage when they get sick. Lifetime coverage limits will be eliminated and annual limits are to be restricted.

*Insurers will be barred from excluding children for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

*Young adults will be able to stay on their parents' health plans until the age of 26. Many health plans currently drop dependents from coverage when they turn 19 or finish college.

*Uninsured adults with a pre-existing conditions will be able to obtain health coverage through a new program that will expire once new insurance exchanges begin operating in 2014.

*A temporary reinsurance program is created to help companies maintain health coverage for early retirees between the ages of 55 and 64. This also expires in 2014.

*Medicare drug beneficiaries who fall into the "doughnut hole" coverage gap will get a $250 rebate. The bill eventually closes that gap which currently begins after $2,700 is spent on drugs. Coverage starts again after $6,154 is spent.

*A tax credit becomes available for some small businesses to help provide coverage for workers.

*A 10 percent tax on indoor tanning services that use ultraviolet lamps goes into effect on July 1.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2011

*Medicare provides 10 percent bonus payments to primary care physicians and general surgeons.

*Medicare beneficiaries will be able to get a free annual wellness visit and personalized prevention plan service. New health plans will be required to cover preventive services with little or no cost to patients.

*A new program under the Medicaid plan for the poor goes into effect in October that allows states to offer home and community based care for the disabled that might otherwise require institutional care.

*Payments to insurers offering Medicare Advantage services are frozen at 2010 levels. These payments are to be gradually reduced to bring them more in line with traditional Medicare.

*Employers are required to disclose the value of health benefits on employees' W-2 tax forms.

*An annual fee is imposed on pharmaceutical companies according to market share. The fee does not apply to companies with sales of $5 million or less.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2012

*Physician payment reforms are implemented in Medicare to enhance primary care services and encourage doctors to form "accountable care organizations" to improve quality and efficiency of care.

*An incentive program is established in Medicare for acute care hospitals to improve quality outcomes.

*The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees the government programs, begin tracking hospital readmission rates and puts in place financial incentives to reduce preventable readmissions.

WHAT HAPPENS IN 2013

*A national pilot program is established for Medicare on payment bundling to encourage doctors, hospitals and other care providers to better coordinate patient care.

*The threshold for claiming medical expenses on itemized tax returns is raised to 10 percent from 7.5 percent of income. The threshold remains at 7.5 percent for the elderly through 2016.

*The Medicare payroll tax is raised to 2.35 percent from 1.45 percent for individuals earning more than $200,000 and married couples with incomes over $250,000. The tax is imposed on some investment income for that income group.

*A 2.9 percent excise tax in imposed on the sale of medical devices. Anything generally purchased at the retail level by the public is excluded from the tax.
 8 years ago '04        #93
ItAlY2BkLyN 238 heat pts238
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Do people not realize that employed people who have coverage through their work won't be affected.

But the person who gets laid off and loses their benefits along with their job, will have to pay for personal coverage on their own with a job that doesn't exist. And if they don't, then they get fined, which is also giving the IRS access to your medical history. Which before this was against HIPPA regulations.

Do people also not care about the 1000s of people currently on medicare and medicaid that will get dropped and forced into this gov't plan?

There is over a trillion dollars a year in fraud within the current healthcare industry. If they cut down on a portion of that fraud, we could revamp healthcare and wouldn't need a new bill because it would be paying for itself.

I still don't see how turning over the healthcare industry to the same gov't that has bankrupt every other gov't program is a good thing. Social security on its way down the tubes. Medicare / medicaid, on it's way to bankrupcy. Along with the banking and auto industries.

All this does is make our gov't bigger and give them more control over our lives. You really think they're gonna cut you a deal? The gov't only job is to stay in business. They DON'T have your best interests in mind. don't let your HOPE blind you.

Not to mention the TRILLION dollar price tag on top of the debt that NObama has doubled since he took ofice? People thought we were in debt when Bush was in office, WE ARE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE DEBT BUSH HAD, and now adding on another trillion.


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 03-22-2010, 12:51 PM         #94
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said:
Do people not realize that employed people who have coverage through their work won't be affected.

But the person who gets laid off and loses their benefits along with their job, will have to pay for personal coverage on their own with a job that doesn't exist. And if they don't, then they get fined, which is also giving the IRS access to your medical history. Which before this was against HIPPA regulations.

Do people also not care about the 1000s of people currently on medicare and medicaid that will get dropped and forced into this gov't plan?

There is over a trillion dollars a year in fraud within the current healthcare industry. If they cut down on a portion of that fraud, we could revamp healthcare and wouldn't need a new bill because it would be paying for itself.

I still don't see how turning over the healthcare industry to the same gov't that has bankrupt every other gov't program is a good thing. Social security on its way down the tubes. Medicare / medicaid, on it's way to bankrupcy. Along with the banking and auto industries.

All this does is make our gov't bigger and give them more control over our lives. You really think they're gonna cut you a deal? The gov't only job is to stay in business. They DON'T have your best interests in mind. don't let your HOPE blind you.

Not to mention the TRILLION dollar price tag on top of the debt that NObama has doubled since he took ofice? People thought we were in debt when Bush was in office, WE ARE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE DEBT BUSH HAD, and now adding on another trillion.
QFT



From an article taken from the CBC:
"Despite government promises and the billions of dollars funnelled into the Canadian health-care system, the average patient waited more than 18 weeks in 2007 between seeing their family doctor and receiving the surgery or treatment they required," said Nadeem Esmail, director of Health System Performance Studies at the Fraser Institute and co-author of the report, in a release.

Despite have one of the shorter waits among the provinces, Quebec's 19.4-week wait shows that despite more money directed at fixing the problem, there hasn't been any improvement, Tasha Kheiriddin, the Quebec director of the Fraser Institute, told CBC News Monday.

She says Quebec has invested millions of dollars over the past few years in efforts to reduce wait times, but that inefficiencies in the public system are proving to be obstacles.

"What this tells us is spending more money in the system does not decrease wait times. In fact it's the opposite result, so we have to look at other solutions," she said.
Oh wait, the U.S. isn't Canada
 8 years ago '04        #95
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My man!!!! Obama obama...
 8 years ago '04        #96
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 1angrypinoy said:
QFT



Oh wait, the U.S. isn't Canada
hell does QFT mean?
 8 years ago '04        #97
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 lifetimez said:
Explain how it's a step in the 'wrong direction'.
1. The FEDS now control 1/6 of our economy.
2. The FEDS have no Constitutional authority for this. They also have no authority to fine people who don't have healthcare.
3. The healthcare industry was already inefficient.......now the shining star of inefficiency is running things.

All reasons why this is the wrong direction.

 FeedTheBeast said:
People talking about how much this is gonna cost are just looking at that and nothing else. Do yall realize that this will actually cut the deficit??? It will actually save money.

And true it will take time to go into effect but we have to realize that this is something you can just flick on like a light switch. This is a major overhaul and its gonna take some time to implement. The whole medical industry is gonna have to be retrained.

Obama may face some scrutiny from the naysayers but it will subside. Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan both faced similiar haters when they passed Welfare reforms and bugdet reforms. But the positives of those bills eventually came to light over time as will Obama's plan for healthcare.

And to those saying that Obama will suffer for this........you are just plain ignorant. The man said he was gonna do this from day one and he got elected on that promise. So how can a promise kept be a negative??? The only ones oppossing now or the same ones who oppossed then. And my daddy always told me just becuz you talk the loudest and make a scene doesnt make you right. They making a lot of noise with these protests......but they aint right.


Says who? The same people that keep having to raise the deficit ceiling because their spending is out of control? Please, show me a federal agency or program that operates under budget...or even close to it.
 8 years ago '05        #98
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think this man said it the best and will let his comments speak for themselves.

Thomas Jefferson

It has been said the greatest volume of sheer brain power in one place occurred when Jefferson dined alone. -- John Kennedy

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. -- Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. -- Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. -- Thomas Jefferson

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe. -- Thomas Jefferson
 8 years ago '04        #99
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Healthcare Reform Passes
By Ron Paul

Following months of heated public debate and aggressive closed-door negotiations, Congress finally cast a historic vote on healthcare late Sunday evening. It was truly a sad weekend on the House floor as we witnessed further dismantling of the Constitution, disregard of the will of the people, explosive expansion of the reach of government, unprecedented corporate favoritism, and the impending end of quality healthcare as we know it.

Those in favor of this bill touted their good intentions of ensuring quality healthcare for all Americans, as if those of us against the bill are against good medical care. They cite fanciful statistics of deficit reduction, while simultaneously planning to expand the already struggling medical welfare programs we currently have. They somehow think that healthcare in this country will be improved by swelling our welfare rolls and cutting reimbursement payments to doctors who are already losing money. It is estimated that thousands of doctors will be economically forced out of the profession should this government fuzzy math actually try to become healthcare reality. No one has thought to ask what good mandatory health insurance will be if people can't find a doctor.

Legislative hopes and dreams don't always stand up well against economic realities.

Frustratingly, this legislation does not deal at all with the real reasons access to healthcare is a struggle for so many — the astronomical costs. If tort reform was seriously discussed, if the massive regulatory burden on healthcare was reduced and reformed, if the free market was allowed to function and apply downward pressure on healthcare costs as it does with everything else, perhaps people wouldn't be so beholden to insurance companies in the first place. If costs were lowered, more people could simply pay for what they need out of pocket, as they were able to do before government got so involved. Instead, in the name of going after greedy insurance companies, the federal government is going to make people even more beholden to them by mandating that everyone buy their product! Hefty fines are due from anyone found to have committed the heinous crime of not being a customer of a health insurance company. We will need to hire some 16,500 new IRS agents to police compliance with all these new mandates and administer various fines. So in government terms, this is also a jobs bill. Never mind that this program is also likely to cost the private sector some 5 million jobs.

Of course, the most troubling aspect of this bill is that it is so blatantly unconstitutional and contrary to the ideals of liberty. Nowhere in the constitution is there anything approaching authority for the Federal government to do any of this. The founders would have been horrified at the idea of government forcing citizens to become consumers of a particular product from certain government approved companies. 38 states are said to already be preparing legal and constitutional challenges to this legislation, and if the courts stand by their oaths, they will win. Protecting the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, should be the court's responsibility. Citizens have a responsibility over their own life, but they also have the liberty to choose how they will live and protect their lives. Healthcare choices are a part of liberty, another part that is being stripped away. Government interference in healthcare has already infringed on choices available to people, but rather than getting out of the way, it is entrenching itself, and its corporatist cronies, even more deeply.
 8 years ago '05        #100
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 JBeezy said:
1. The FEDS now control 1/6 of our economy.
2. The FEDS have no Constitutional authority for this. They also have no authority to fine people who don't have healthcare.
3. The healthcare industry was already inefficient.......now the shining star of inefficiency is running things.

All reasons why this is the wrong direction.


1. Wrong... private insurance is half of our healthcare GDP... so the private industry that contributes 1/12 of our economy is regulated more (it always has been) by the Federal Govt.

2. Wrong again... Article VI, Clause 2 clearly shows this bill is constitutional and Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 clearly gives Congress the right to "fine" people who dont have insurance.

3. The Healthcare industry was inefficent... this bill is not perfect. But to say this DOESNT make it better is a partisan joke.

that is all.
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