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 8 years ago '04        #161
KidKingGoD 3 heat pts
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 DCReprezenta said:
I'm wondering if u should be taken serious. Floyd hasn't fought Mosley yet, so don't throw him on the hit list just yet.
Out of all those names u posted, Jose Luis Castillo is the most meaningful opponent when u take everything into consideration...Castillo was the legitimate champion and Floyd moved to his division to f!ght him without a warm-up.
I remember watching Floyd f!ght back then. I remember the humble Floyd prior to his first PPV win over Gatti. I was thinking we were gonna have this era's Sugar Ray Leonard...but he appeared to start that handpicking. Henry Bruseles, DeMarcus Corley, Phillip N'dou....heard of any of them lately?
Floyd's career prior to moving to 147 heavily outweighs his career after, despite the 'names' he has added to his resume. Opponents like Famoso, Chavez, Manfredy and Castillo were some of the best he could have fought.
Um wtf are you talking bout son? 1 month from now Mosley match is going down that line up I gave you is better then Pacquaio's lineup.. real talk Cotto has been trash since Mosley got robbed. Mosley beat that cat's a.ss, B. So did Clottey and that kid is trash. Margarito beat the breaks off his a.ss so Cotto is now Zab Judah status YOU KNOW THIS. Oscar Dela Hoya is a legend Floyd out boxed him. Judah used to be that ni99a front if you want 2 Mayweather bodied him. Hatton was undefeated UNDEFEATED Mayweather ko'ed him so beautifully OMG.... Juan Manuel marquez is a Mexican legend yo.... you speak on that weight gaining shyt but floyd has done that MANY time's and came out the victor pacquaio 2 for that matter stop making excuses. As for you talking about his earlier career Floyd was in his Prime!!! His own history cannot be used against him. Keep it 100.... Margarito would get annihilated by Mayweather, Cotto 2 Im not remotely interested in seeing him f!ght these overrated boxers. Clottey?? Negro pls. After The epic battle with Mosley it's Pacquaio's turn and then I will be awaited your formal apology because none of these cowards want it except Paul Williams but that ni99a needs 2 stop bullshytting and go be a cruiser weight 6'3 anorexic ex model's is not what's really good in boxing.


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 8 years ago '05        #162
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 KidKingGoD said:
Um wtf are you talking bout son? 1 month from now Mosley match is going down that line up I gave you is better then Pacquaio's lineup.. real talk Cotto has been trash since Mosley got robbed. Mosley beat that cat's a.ss, B. So did Clottey and that kid is trash. Margarito beat the breaks off his a.ss so Cotto is now Zab Judah status YOU KNOW THIS. Oscar Dela Hoya is a legend Floyd out boxed him. Judah used to be that ni99a front if you want 2 Mayweather bodied him. Hatton was undefeated UNDEFEATED Mayweather ko'ed him so beautifully OMG.... Juan Manuel marquez is a Mexican legend yo.... you speak on that weight gaining shyt but floyd has done that MANY time's and came out the victor pacquaio 2 for that matter stop making excuses. As for you talking about his earlier career Floyd was in his Prime!!! His own history cannot be used against him. Keep it 100.... Margarito would get annihilated by Mayweather, Cotto 2 Im not remotely interested in seeing him f!ght these overrated boxers. Clottey?? Negro pls. After The epic battle with Mosley it's Pacquaio's turn and then I will be awaited your formal apology because none of these cowards want it except Paul Williams but that ni99a needs 2 stop bullshytting and go be a cruiser weight 6'3 anorexic ex model's is not what's really good in boxing.
Floyd moved up 2 weight classes for a f!ght? when?
 8 years ago '04        #163
KidKingGoD 3 heat pts
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check his weight class history yourself fam.

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 8 years ago '09        #164
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 Sizzler01 said:
Floyd fans calling someones f!ght boring

if Pacman is overrated then who is rated
This....
 8 years ago '04        #165
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 Sizzler01 said:
Floyd moved up 2 weight classes for a f!ght? when?
I hope you went to the site!!!!
Mayweather's next f!ght (on November 1, 2003) was in his hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. He fought against the promising South African knockout specialist Phillip Ndou, whose record was 31-1 with 30 KOs.... 31-1 with 30 KOs!!!!!! Sounds pretty dangerous to me!!!

 DCReprezenta said:
I remember watching Floyd f!ght back then. I remember the humble Floyd prior to his first PPV win over Gatti. I was thinking we were gonna have this era's Sugar Ray Leonard...but he appeared to start that handpicking. Henry Bruseles, DeMarcus Corley, Phillip N'dou....heard of any of them lately?.

ARE YOU SERIOUS????? YOU SAID LATELY!!!!

Floyd got to them that's where they are lately... hindsight can make you say that about a lot of f!ghters...

the fact is that @ THAT TIME theses were ALL good if not great f!ghts for FMJ...
and if they weren't so good then why are the corley and N'dou f!ghts the most watched by fmj's opponents???


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 8 years ago '04        #166
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 HotepSuns said:
not the same marquez who JUST before f!ghting mayweather beat casamayor,and knocked out juan diaz...but i guess he magically got old,and beat down after that...
Casamayor's time was running out and Juan Diaz was overrated. His style was tailor made for a crafty counterpuncher. Still, Floyd did dismantle Marquez like he was an amateur, but he pretty much stole his way back into the #2 spot. Not like Floyd doesn't deserve that spot, but still. Bringing him and Hatton up in weight, although I do give him credit for going up to 154 to take Oscar.
 8 years ago '04        #167
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 DCReprezenta said:
Manny - humble and f!ghts who the public demands.
Floyd - says he is the greatest ever and always leaves us waiting to see if he'll f!ght that major f!ght next time
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In the end this is the key component of who people take sides with. Diehard Floyd fans will not see one flaw with his career decisions and continue to say that he is undefeated. I don't know how it would go between him and Manny, but stop creating excuses for him not taking the best f!ghts.

This guy hit it right on the head. Do you cats honestly respect Floyd for these outlandish statements he makes? Even if he believes them he comes off as straight up disrespectful to his predecessors. He is an arrogant a**hole and I don't respect how he handles himself. He's one of the most skilled f!ghters I've ever seen, but cats need to stop being 100% biased.

Have any of you seen Manny talk s**t once? He's the most humble dude there is and it's obvious he isn't afraid of anybody. If you seriously think he's afraid of Floyd then your eyes really are closed and you just want to continue to search for reasons to s**t on Manny and defend Floyd.
 8 years ago '04        #168
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 KidKingGoD said:
none of these cowards want it except Paul Williams but that ni99a needs 2 stop bullshytting and go be a cruiser weight 6'3 anorexic ex model's is not what's really good in boxing.
Dead.

PW is a freak and it isn't a smart career move for most cats to take him. I like Pavlik, but he knows the deal.
 03-16-2010, 11:19 AM         #169
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 igotgame4ya said:
ARE YOU SERIOUS????? YOU SAID LATELY!!!!

Floyd got to them that's where they are lately... hindsight can make you say that about a lot of f!ghters...

the fact is that @ THAT TIME theses were ALL good if not great f!ghts for FMJ...
and if they weren't so good then why are the corley and N'dou f!ghts the most watched by fmj's opponents???
They were good f!ghts for Floyd, but in no way shape or form could they make his career "greater than sugar ray robinson's".


To date, his best opponents were Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales, Famoso Hernandez, Jesus Chavez and Jose Luis Castillo. They were the toughest opponents he could have faced when he faced them.
 8 years ago '05        #170
Sizzler01 8 heat pts
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 igotgame4ya said:
I hope you went to the site!!!!
Mayweather's next f!ght (on November 1, 2003) was in his hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. He fought against the promising South African knockout specialist Phillip Ndou, whose record was 31-1 with 30 KOs.... 31-1 with 30 KOs!!!!!! Sounds pretty dangerous to me!!!
looking at someone's record tells you how good they are? really? Ndou is decent but he built a record beating cab drivers in South Africa
 8 years ago '07        #171
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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manny crusaders will have this shutdown soon
 8 years ago '04        #172
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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Boxing is so whack, almost as whack as Drake.
 8 years ago '05        #173
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 KidKingGoD said:
Um wtf are you talking bout son? 1 month from now Mosley match is going down that line up I gave you is better then Pacquaio's lineup.. real talk Cotto has been trash since Mosley got robbed. Mosley beat that cat's a.ss, B. So did Clottey and that kid is trash. Margarito beat the breaks off his a.ss so Cotto is now Zab Judah status YOU KNOW THIS. Oscar Dela Hoya is a legend Floyd out boxed him. Judah used to be that ni99a front if you want 2 Mayweather bodied him. Hatton was undefeated UNDEFEATED Mayweather ko'ed him so beautifully OMG.... Juan Manuel marquez is a Mexican legend yo.... you speak on that weight gaining shyt but floyd has done that MANY time's and came out the victor pacquaio 2 for that matter stop making excuses. As for you talking about his earlier career Floyd was in his Prime!!! His own history cannot be used against him. Keep it 100.... Margarito would get annihilated by Mayweather, Cotto 2 Im not remotely interested in seeing him f!ght these overrated boxers. Clottey?? Negro pls. After The epic battle with Mosley it's Pacquaio's turn and then I will be awaited your formal apology because none of these cowards want it except Paul Williams but that ni99a needs 2 stop bullshytting and go be a cruiser weight 6'3 anorexic ex model's is not what's really good in boxing.
Clearly you don't know s**t about boxing. Marquez who fought Mayweather can not be compared to the Marquez who fought Paquiao. Hatton wasn't even the number 1 contender when Floyd fought him. Manny shouldn't even had wasted his time with Hatoon, but it was his second f!ght at 140 and I guess he was trying to beat the guys Floyd beat. He destroyed him in 1 round. DLH was another worthless f!ght and was mostly for money reasons, but Manny again retired him. Mayweather took 12 rounds to get a split decision. I'll agree DLH was at a lower weight, but he talked about before the f!ght how he was in the greatest shape of his life, Manny still put him in retirement which Floyd couldn't do. So after Manny's 2 warm up f!ghts in the welterweight division he takes on the number 1 contender and former champ Cotto, who Mayweather would never f!ght, and he destroys him. Then he takes on another top 5 welterweight in Clottey and made him look like a fool. This is the same Clottey who beat Corrales, should have beat Cotto and Margarito and beat Judah. Clottey is also the welterweight that like Paul Williams and Winky Wright no one will f!ght.

Paquiao has fought deserving champs, and number one contenders. And contrary to popular belief has not ducked one f!ghter.
Mayweather has ducked competition, fought easier f!ghts instead of #1 contenders, has never his whole career fought a #1 contender. His hardest f!ght to Castillo, a lot of people feel he lost. Everything has to be Floyd's way. The weight, the time, opponent, etc. People praising him for finally f!ghting Mosley is hilarious. Mosley's been trying to f!ght him since the 90's. Oh but, Mosley had a tooth ache. No it had nothing to do with Mosley having fought 3 f!ghts in a year and Floyd just so happingly trying to make it his fourth f!ght in under 14 months. C'mon. Stop drinking the Kool Aide. Mayweather is a phenomenal boxer, but he hasn't fought the best plain and simple.


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 03-16-2010, 12:01 PM         #174
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 Santoro said:
Clearly you don't know s**t about boxing. Marquez who fought Mayweather can not be compared to the Marquez who fought Paquiao. Hatton wasn't even the number 1 contender when Floyd fought him. Manny shouldn't even had wasted his time, but it was his second f!ght at 140 and he destroyed him in 1 round. DLH was another worthless f!ght and was mostly for money reasons, but Manny again retired him. Mayweather took 12 rounds to get a split decision. I'll agree DLH was at a lower weight, but he talked about before the f!ght how he was in the greatest shape of his life. So after Manny's 2 warm up f!ghts in the welterweight division he takes on the number 1 contender and former champ Cotto, who Mayweather would never f!ght, and he destroys him. Then he takes on another top 5 welterweight in Clottey and made him look like a fool. This is the same Clottey he beat Corrales, should have been Cotto and Margarito and beat Judah. Cotto is also the welterweight that like Paul Williams and Winky Wright no one will f!ght.

Paquiao has fought deserving champs, and number one contenders. And contrary to popular belief has not ducked one f!ghter.
Mayweather has ducked competition, fought easier f!ghts instead of #1 contenders, has never his whole career fought a #1 contender. His hardest f!ght to Castillo, a lot of people feel he lost. Everything has to be Floyd's way. The weight, the time, opponent, etc. People praising him for finally f!ghting Mosley is hilarious. Mosley's been trying to f!ght him since the 90's. Oh but, Mosley had a tooth ache. No it had nothing to do with Mosley having fought 3 f!ghts in a year and Floyd just so happingly trying to make it his fourth f!ght in under 14 months. C'mon. Stop drinking the Kool Aide. Mayweather is a phenomenal boxer, but he hasn't fought the best plain and simple.
with most of that. I had Floyd winning that Castillo f!ght though, 6-5-1 even. Floyd was on the pace for one of the most remarkable careers since Sugar Ray Leonard when he fought Castillo back to back times. He just became this prima donna once he moved to 147. I just didn't understand it...The guy is perhaps the most gifted f!ghter I have witnessed, alongside Roy Jones Jr. He could very well clean up the 147 division, but for some reason he takes the next level down each time.
If only Floyd had that De La Hoya, Shane Mosley mindset...that competitive spirit to f!ght the toughest opponents possible.
He appears to be so worried about his undefeated record, had Floyd fought the likes of Cintron, Williams, Margarito 3 years ago and loss to each of them, he would not have lost an ounce of respect from me. Mosley lost back to back on 2 occasions and still had respect by true boxing fans.
Undefeated records are overrated.
 8 years ago '05        #175
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 DCReprezenta said:
with most of that. I had Floyd winning that Castillo f!ght though, 6-5-1 even. Floyd was on the pace for one of the most remarkable careers since Sugar Ray Leonard when he fought Castillo back to back times. He just became this prima donna once he moved to 147. I just didn't understand it...The guy is perhaps the most gifted f!ghter I have witnessed, alongside Roy Jones Jr. He could very well clean up the 147 division, but for some reason he takes the next level down each time.
If only Floyd had that De La Hoya, Shane Mosley mindset...that competitive spirit to f!ght the toughest opponents possible.
He appears to be so worried about his undefeated record, had Floyd fought the likes of Cintron, Williams, Margarito 3 years ago and loss to each of them, he would not have lost an ounce of respect from me. Mosley lost back to back on 2 occasions and still had respect by true boxing fans.
Undefeated records are overrated.
Exactly. This is my main problem with Floyd. That and his disrespectful attitude. He was broke as s**t and acts like anyone without money is a piece of s**t, plus the way he disrespects the sport is sickening. The video's of him sparring should be a clue of how most of his sparring partners do not return. Not many people like Floyd the person for good reason.
 8 years ago '04        #176
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He appears to be so worried about his undefeated record, had Floyd fought the likes of Cintron, Williams, Margarito 3 years ago and loss to each of them, he would not have lost an ounce of respect from me. Mosley lost back to back on 2 occasions and still had respect by true boxing fans.
Undefeated records are overrated.
Did you say Cintron... as in Kermit??? that would have gotten him clowned too... Cintron is not at FMJ's level...

and here we go again with this Margocheato stuff... margo was gonna get it too... his promoter isn't wanna pay that cheddar for that f!ght cotto , hatton and dlh in the same yr! that's why the f!ght didn't happen...

nevertheless... do i think he retired early yes... but i think it was more to prove a point... and that was.. "why should i f!ght everyone and win... only to be worn out.. when they can f!ght each other.. and I'll take the winner for a higher payday..."
he told everyone what would happen.... and it did...

even though cotto is a true warrior... is he as high on the p4p list now as he was 3 yrs ago????
what about hatton???? where's he at??? he hasn't been the same since he met Mr. Turnbuckle!!!

Not many people like Floyd the person for good reason.
in terms of pre-f!ght hype... no, but who the phuck is nice when they're about to f!ght???
(you must want to see them hug at the press conference or something... )
but if you ASK OR READ about him during negotiations or even afterwards.. .they commend him for being the ultimate professional...
it's only those that have no to little interest in the sport who don't know this...


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 8 years ago '05        #177
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No you're wrong. He was supposed to f!ght Margarito in 2006 and instead fought and over the hill Baldomir.
 8 years ago '04        #178
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 Santoro said:
No you're wrong. He was supposed to f!ght Margarito in 2006 and instead fought and over the hill Baldomir.
who gave a year???

the FACT IS THAT... Bob didn't want to give may a new f!ght contract which was...

8 mil for margo
9-10 for cotto
9-10 for hatton,

then finish it off with dlh for 20 mil...

Bob told him he has lost his mind and that he can have 8 for margo but no more than 7 for hatton and cotto, and dlh most def will not get him 20 mil...

he got 8 mill and a dolla from baldi's promoter and he fought the reg. champ for the belt...
he's only the champ b/c zab lost... otherwise it would been zab's title...
 8 years ago '08        #179
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 Santoro said:
No you're wrong. He was supposed to f!ght Margarito in 2006 and instead fought and over the hill Baldomir.
This is the Bulls**t Floyd haters love to spew, and it just proves to me you dont know s**t about boxing. At that time Margarito hadn't done s**t to deserve a f!ght against Floyd. And in every interview Floyd kept asking the media who had Margarito beaten and none of them could answer the s**t. Margarito lost to a bum named Daniel Santos, then afterwards beat 3 bums including Kermit Cintron who also aint never beat nobody.

Baldomir was the true Welterweight champ and had wins over Judah, Gatti, and a DQ win over Clotey and was on a 27 f!ght win streak. The fact is Baldomir had a far better resume than Margarito. The only difference is Margarito had Arum as a promoter who is a much bigger name than Dan Goosen and Arum convinced you stupid a.ss Floyd haters that Marg deserved the f!ght, despite the fact that he hadnt done s**t to earn it. The same way he convinced you f**king idiots that Clottey deserved to f!ght Pacman when he hadnt done s**t to earn it.

Not to mention at that time Floyd wanted to f!ght De la Hoya, who wanted more time, Moseley who had a toothe ache, Hatton who wanted a 13 million dollar guarantee, and Cotto who Arum promotes but would only offer Floyd 7 mil to f!ght despite the fact that he was undefeated and a bigger name than Margarito who he offered Floyd 8 mil to f!ght.

You Floyd haters are pathetic and really need to STFU.


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 8 years ago '04        #180
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 PEK said:
This is the Bulls**t Floyd haters love to spew, and it just proves to me you dont know s**t about boxing. At that time Margarito hadn't done s**t to deserve a f!ght against Floyd. And in every interview Floyd kept asking the media who had Margarito beaten and none of them could answer the s**t. Margarito lost to a bum named Daniel Santos, then afterwards beat 3 bums including Kermit Cintron who also aint never beat nobody.

Baldomir was the true Welterweight champ and had wins over Judah, Gatti, and a DQ win over Clotey and was on a 27 f!ght win streak. The fact is Baldomir had a far better resume than Margarito. The only difference is Margarito had Arum as a promoter who is a much bigger name than Dan Goosen and Arum convinced you stupid a.ss Floyd haters that Marg deserved the f!ght, despite the fact that he hadnt done s**t to earn it. The same way he convinced you f**king idiots that Clottey deserved to f!ght Pacman when he hadnt done s**t to earn it.

Not to mention at that time Floyd wanted to f!ght De la Hoya, who wanted more time, Moseley who had a toothe ache, Hatton who wanted a 13 million dollar guarantee, and Cotto who Arum promotes but would only offer Floyd 7 mil to f!ght despite the fact that he was undefeated and a bigger name than Margarito who he offered Floyd 8 mil to f!ght.

You Floyd haters are pathetic and really need to STFU.
finally somebody that knows what they're talking about!!!!!!!!!!!
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