Charles Barkley: Kobe not in conversation with Jordan

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 8 years ago '05        #101
TheT 21 heat pts21
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 8 years ago '04        #102
dre03 
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 malikmoore9 said:
Were you just born last year Jordans last three peat team was one of the most talented teams ever Ron harper Jordan pippen kukoc rodman those five alone are better than the team the lakers had during any championship win. F*ck sake they won 72 games this wasnt off of will to win hell they were the most talented team in the league.
n*gga who was Toni Kukoc before the Bulls??? Who was he after the Bulls??? Exactly

Rodman was 34 years old when he played with the Bulls way past his prime and he didnt even start every game...

Ron Harper was 32 years old and past his prime to... n*gga only played 27 minutes a game and couldnt shoot worth a s**t...

Jordan only had Pippen who even at that time was always hurt and past his prime as well... Seeing how the year after the Bulls last run his career declined to s**t...

Dont come at me son when u dont know what the f**k you are talking about... They played defense thats what won the Bulls championships... Not great talent... U dont have to be talented to play defense... Just motivated


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 8 years ago '04        #103
dre03 
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 malikmoore9 said:
Not to stomp on your parade but Kobe is the most clutch player in NBA history he has 27 buzzer beaters and MJ has 25(they even went so far as to count his one in NC to give him 26) Kobe is the definition of clutch. If you count game winners where the person was the last to score for their team in the final seconds and they won Kobe still has MJ beat with 44 to 35.

Your point is mute
U dumbass thats cuz Kobe been in more close games than Jordan... This year alone he has been in like 10+ situations where the game came down to him... Of course if he had more chances to win the game he will have more... How bout you find out how many he has missed compared to Jordan

Jason Kidd has more 3 pointers made then Kobe i guess that means Jason Kidd is a better 3pt shooter than Kobe then right... Hell that would make him the 5th best 3pt shooter all time... Since he has more that has to be what that means right...
 8 years ago '08        #104
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 Hurricane24 said:
generally that's what makes you a better team
Oh Really? So if thats the case we should see the Celtics holding up the trophy again this year?
 8 years ago '06        #105
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 dre03 said:
n*gga who was Toni Kukoc before the Bulls??? Who was he after the Bulls??? Exactly

Rodman was 34 years old when he played with the Bulls way past his prime and he didnt even start every game...

Ron Harper was 32 years old and past his prime to... n*gga only played 27 minutes a game and couldnt shoot worth a s**t...

Jordan only had Pippen who even at that time was always hurt and past his prime as well... Seeing how the year after the Bulls last run his career declined to s**t...

Dont come at me son when u dont know what the f**k you are talking about... They played defense thats what won the Bulls championships... Not great talent... U dont have to be talented to play defense... Just motivated
all those players u are kinda putting down, weren't expected nor needed to do anything more then play thier part.... all of them players excelled at 1 PARTICULAR craft, wich is a huge part of establishing a great team

bulls always had reliable spot up shooters, who made CLUTCH shots in thier finals runs... kerr and paxson...

kukoc was another playmaker, who brang a lot of versatility.... had a high bb iq....

rodman was a beast, dunno what u talking about, and it's not like he wasn't the PERFECT pf to match up with malone

harper was a nice COMPLIMENTARY player as well, he had some unfortunate injuries and played on s**tty teams early in his career

bulls had a stacked team in terms of everybody fitting thier roles perfectly... plus they were as MENTALLY tough as anybody
 03-11-2010, 04:34 PM         #106
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people forget that Bulls team w/o Jordan went to the ECF and went to a game 7 that year and got f**king cheated?
 8 years ago '10        #107
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 braided_uppimp said:
just old heads riding for old heads


it's no difference between Jordan and Kobe, just different eras


that's about it
uuuuuuhhhh have you seen Jordan's stats?
 8 years ago '04        #108
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this dre f*g is a f**king hater and obviously dont know s**t about basketball?

how can you read something so delusional and rationally respond to it? lmao u just have to laugh and ignore it
 8 years ago '04        #109
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 braided_uppimp said:
people forget that Bulls team w/o Jordan went to the ECF and went to a game 7 that year and got f**king cheated?
Yeah they took the Knicks to game 7 in the second round dumbass. What the Rockets did to the Lakers last year without T-mac and Yao. Was the Rockets team a great team?
 8 years ago '04        #110
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 ginobili 20 said:
all those players u are kinda putting down, weren't expected nor needed to do anything more then play thier part.... all of them players excelled at 1 PARTICULAR craft, wich is a huge part of establishing a great team

bulls always had reliable spot up shooters, who made CLUTCH shots in thier finals runs... kerr and paxson...

kukoc was another playmaker, who brang a lot of versatility.... had a high bb iq....

rodman was a beast, dunno what u talking about, and it's not like he wasn't the PERFECT pf to match up with malone

harper was a nice COMPLIMENTARY player as well, he had some unfortunate injuries and played on s**tty teams early in his career

bulls had a stacked team in terms of everybody fitting thier roles perfectly... plus they were as MENTALLY tough as anybody
They were all past their prime... Your going off reputation...

The year after the Bulls last championship Rodman played 35 games total for the rest of his career... He wins a ring and all of a sudden he goes to another team and he is too old to contend... The very next year u kidding me

Scottie showed how good he still was playing 40 minutes with the Rockets and averaging a measley 14 points on a career low 43% shooting

Ron Haper was only out there for size and defense... He only played 100 games after the Bulls final year and very little production from him aside from his defense

Kukoc was good but only in that system he wasnt as productive everywhere else... The whole point is on a team with Jordan once Jordan learned to trust his teammates his entire team instantly became better than they really were... U cant ignore the fact that 90% of that team sucked balls after Jordan...
 8 years ago '04        #111
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 l0udm0uf said:
this dre f*g is a f**king hater and obviously dont know s**t about basketball?

how can you read something so delusional and rationally respond to it? lmao u just have to laugh and ignore it
Like what...

Exactly shut yo d*ck sucking a.ss up
 8 years ago '06        #112
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dre03 continues to show his lack of sports knowledge and proves to be the biggest dumbass in the bxsc.
 8 years ago '04        #113
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 TVee said:
Yeah they took the Knicks to game 7 in the second round dumbass. What the Rockets did to the Lakers last year without T-mac and Yao. Was the Rockets team a great team?
Damn u beat me to it
 8 years ago '10        #114
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A lot of dumbass sh*t being posted in here. MJ>>>>Kobe.

Only homoerotic bromance Kobe stans say other wise, no logic behind there argument just emotion (awwwww).



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 8 years ago '08        #115
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I remember when n*ggas tried to say last years Magic were better than anyteam the Bulls ever faced:lachen001:
 8 years ago '04        #116
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 modalee81 said:
dre03 continues to show his lack of sports knowledge and proves to be the biggest dumbass in the bxsc.
Funny how i get s**t like instead of an actual response to my posts...

Im sure cuz people like you really have nothing to disprove me... Just infatuation theories about Kobe

Like T.O. say u want me stop then stop me... Otherwise shut the f**k up...
 8 years ago '05        #117
Hold That 104 heat pts104
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I hate when people have to try and tear down someone to build up another player.

Jordan is the G.O.A.T, but Kobe's shots aren't lucky, it's all about getting yourself in the best position to get a clean shot at the basket. Kobe is masterful at doing this, he can create in the tightest spots.

He does it all game, so when it comes down to the wire and he does it one last time, it's all of a sudden luck? Not buying that s**t.
 8 years ago '10        #118
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barkley should empathize with iverson cause more than anyone he knows ai aint the only 76er legend with a gambling and drinking problem, he needs no reminder that's what mirrors are for
 8 years ago '04        #119
dre03 
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 Hold That said:
I hate when people have to try and tear down someone to build up another player.

Jordan is the G.O.A.T, but Kobe's shots aren't lucky, it's all about getting yourself in the best position to get a clean shot at the basket. Kobe is masterful at doing this, he can create in the tightest spots.

He does it all game, so when it comes down to the wire and he does it one last time, it's all of a sudden luck? Not buying that s**t.
Yeah your right its definitely a skill not luck all the time... But when Kobe himself says one of his shots are luck (Like the shot against the Heat) u got these Kobe nuthuggers saying he is just being modest now...

If Kobe says anything else he is telling the truth... I mean everybody makes lucky shots... That crazy over the head 180 shot Jordan made when he was fouled by Ehlo in the paint was a lucky shot... I just dont understand how they have an excuse for everything that is not pro-Kobe... And thing its valid like the s**t is inscribed somewhere
 8 years ago '06        #120
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 dre03 said:
They were all past their prime... Your going off reputation...

The year after the Bulls last championship Rodman played 35 games total for the rest of his career... He wins a ring and all of a sudden he goes to another team and he is too old to contend... The very next year u kidding me

Scottie showed how good he still was playing 40 minutes with the Rockets and averaging a measley 14 points on a career low 43% shooting

Ron Haper was only out there for size and defense... He only played 100 games after the Bulls final year and very little production from him aside from his defense

Kukoc was good but only in that system he wasnt as productive everywhere else... The whole point is on a team with Jordan once Jordan learned to trust his teammates his entire team instantly became better than they really were... U cant ignore the fact that 90% of that team sucked balls after Jordan...
I get what u saying, I remember barkley taking a pay cut, huge one actually... only made 1 mil that year, to free money to bring pippen in. to houston.... he gave the keys to the whip to pippen, conceving he had seen better days... wasn't pippens best work to say the least

yeah, not saying these players seen better days after they left, but all of them fit and contributed something as complimentary players in that system.. really all they need to do....jordan is a great player, so naturally he made everyone around him better though

kerr and harper both played small roles on the spurs and lakers after that to get rings....
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