Charles Barkley: Kobe not in conversation with Jordan

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 03-11-2010, 02:10 PM         #41
k3llz  OP
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 WilliamHBonnie said:
A poor mans Jordan at best.
lmao yea f**kin right

Kobe does the same exact s**t Jordan does

i agree Jordan was mentally tougher and smarter, but as far as skill and everything else

they do the same s**t, nothing else

if they played a game of "anything u can do, i can do better"

it would be no winner
 8 years ago '06        #42
hood135 2 heat pts
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 Chief Dee said:
There is no such thing as a lucky shot. Either you hit it, or you dont. Circumstances and luck are two different things, banking off the backboard and the ball awkwardly dropping in is not luck. Luck itself does not exist, it was just the right circumstance. Plus Kobe's ability to hit 6 or 7 game winners would reflect that he has tremendous skill.
The only part that I disagree with is the "no such thing as a lucky shot". Players do throw up prays from time to time and hit outrageous shots. The shots that Kobe hit are not prays. He gets open, takes his time, gets to the spot he wants to get to, jumps up and knocks it down.

There was no reason for Charles to make that comment because Kobe gets good looks for game winners and he's proven.
 03-11-2010, 02:11 PM         #43
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imo kobe is everybit as good as jordan, i think the eras and the people they played against and with make em different, jordan does have a better legacy but as far as talent and desire to win i think they are almost one in the same
 8 years ago '06        #44
hood135 2 heat pts
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 Main Event said:
I give up
You should because your example was a bad one.
 8 years ago '04        #45
wheezyfbaby 9 heat pts
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The Miami shot isn't luck. He done it before from a closer distance. He may not have planned to shot it off glass but he has the innate ability like no other to manufacture a shot out of nothing.


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 8 years ago '05        #46
Micheal C. Will 18 heat pts18
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n*ggas on here stay comparing these two dudes....ya'll need to give it a rest.

With that said.....Jordan>>Kobe.
 8 years ago '08        #47
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 hood135 said:
You should because your example was a bad one.
The man you're defending said himself it was luck and you still wont just admit it this is a battle im clearly not going to win with you
 8 years ago '08        #48
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 DJ Maximum said:

Jordan set the bar too high

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 03-11-2010, 02:20 PM         #49
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 hood135 said:
I made that comment because you said Kobe was a "poor man's Jordan". Phil has never said who's better. He just says that they excel better than one another in different areas. He would smack you because Kobe isn't a poor mans anything.
Kobe is a poor mans Jordan. I'm going to e-mail Phil right now. Let's see if he smacks me.
 03-11-2010, 02:22 PM         #50
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 hood135 said:
He got to the top of the key (best seat in the house), jumped off one but squared his shoulders, followed through, and shot it a tad too hard. That's not luck.

If he gets to that same spot and throws it up backwards and it falls....that's luck.
Those are both luck, one is more extreme than the other.

IMO ANYONE that shoots a GW buzzer beater while fading to the side and banks it in got lucky. How come Kobe doesn't shoot all his 3s as bank shots than?
 03-11-2010, 02:23 PM         #51
Rynoh  OP
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 ChiCity Fingaz said:
Why would you be mad that someone is a poorman's Jordan?
It's actually a compliment if anything
 8 years ago '09        #52
TheG1ftedOne 4 heat pts
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Wait I thought Kobe admitted his shot against the Heat was luck

thats the game winning shot Ive heard him say was luck
 8 years ago '04        #53
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 wheezyfbaby said:
The Miami shot isn't luck. He done it before from a closer distance. He may not have planned to shot it off glass but he has the innate ability like no other to manufacture a shot out of nothing.

Wow bad example. You do understand the difference between banking in a 5 ft. and 24 footer right? You don't even see NBA players banking in 3pt shots from the angles because a banker requires touch. The shot was lucky. It's amazing to me that Kobe stans wont admit that and the man himself said it was the "luckiest shot he ever hit in his life." That not just being modest.
 8 years ago '07        #54
Truth B T0ld 3 heat pts
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Jordan never faced a team as great as the 08 celtics.
 8 years ago '08        #55
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 Truth B T0ld said:
Jordan never faced a team as great as the 08 celtics.
 8 years ago '04        #56
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 TheG1ftedOne said:
"Barkley said that Bryant's Lakers wouldn't have a chance against the great Bulls teams."

So whats this saying.

Jordans team was better?
Barkley mad he couldn't get done when he was playing I don't like the lakers but Bryant can play the dude can play play ball
 8 years ago '04        #57
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charles also said "i'm a dumbass"


nah but for real who cares


lol @ "poorman's jordan" no a poormans jordan is grant hill, t-mac...if kobe is anything he's "an upperclass jordan" lol he damn sure aint that far below him. i agree jordan is goat...but kobe runs this generation & hes not done with his legacy. bron will have the next, in another 3 years there will be another guy comin up. there will always be that one guy that runs s**t & then the up & comers comin up while that guy is starting to fall theres an 8 year old some where right now waiting to ride the next wave after bron

ther will always be people that just hate on the present & future & only care for the past, same guys that didnt care for pac/big they only cared for rakim/kool g rap/kane then it became jay-z/nas then its guys like em then 50...now its wayne & whoever else

get the point? every generation has their stars, & every past generation swears theirs was the best. every current says theirs is, its an ongoing cycle people, just accept it...every era/genration is different. get over it, why be bitter? whats the point in that. enjoy it
 8 years ago '07        #58
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 Truth B T0ld said:
Jordan never faced a team as great as the 08 celtics.
I hope that was a joke
 03-11-2010, 02:48 PM         #59
Rynoh  OP
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 casper said:
lol @ "poorman's jordan" no a poormans jordan is grant hill, t-mac...if kobe is anything he's "an upperclass jordan" lol
I can agree with that, on YOUR terms. I guess "Poor mans" sounds too belittling for some people.


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 8 years ago '04        #60
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Look at the players he sitting next to, other than gasol thats some pretty bad players. Newble Mihm Vlad rad, and that boston team was mad stacked

Jordan is the GOAT but did he ever have to play against a team with 3 hall of famers

People always bring up Kobe losing in the finals but so did Magic, Bird, Malone, Shaq, Lebron, Barkley, Stockton, Kidd, Payton, Ewing, and many more
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