5th ring/2nd Finals MVP for Kobe this year: where would he rank all time?

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Can Kobe catch number
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 8 years ago '06        #81
philly337 21 heat pts21
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 demon9991 said:
unfortunately Camby/Wallace stole a couple of those from Timmy, he doesn't have one DPOY
ur right...not sure what i was thinkin
 12-20-2009, 10:11 PM         #82
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 flystylez said:
you just proved you're a dumbass...

if the team is watered down...did duncan not make those same teams??

just keep your comments to yourself. all said was duncan doesn't have to carry the load.
unlike kobe..he has to. that's all i was saying

and if you didn't like the thread..why you on it???..once again....dumbass smh:
up until 2007 Duncan was the main focus offensively/defensively, Parker took over for a year and now Duncan is back again carrying the load for the Spurs this season.
 8 years ago '06        #83
philly337 21 heat pts21
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 flystylez said:
you gotta remember kobe came off the bench his first 2 seasons.
so i think his scoring avg could have been alil higher
come on cus lol
 8 years ago '06        #84
jj01 
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 flystylez said:
you just proved you're a dumbass...

if the team is watered down...did duncan not make those same teams??

just keep your comments to yourself. all said was duncan doesn't have to carry the load.
unlike kobe..he has to. that's all i was saying

and if you didn't like the thread..why you on it???..once again....dumbass smh:

im talkin about the last few years which ur obviously basing kobe's "excellent" defense on, duncan doesnt need these ridiculous awards based on popularity because the teams stats on the defensive end prove it. how does bean have to carry the load when shaq put up 30 and 12 every nite while being the most dominant ever and winning 3 straight finals mvps?

also stern and the refs helped carry that load as well which has already been confirmed.

anything else jr?
 8 years ago '09        #85
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 demon9991 said:
up until 2007 Duncan was the main focus offensively/defensively, Parker took over for a year and now Duncan is back again carrying the load for the Spurs this season.
you can't forget about manu...
 12-20-2009, 10:14 PM         #86
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 flystylez said:
you can't forget about manu...
Ginobili was never the #1 option, Tony was for a season.
 8 years ago '06        #87
philly337 21 heat pts21
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s**t i'm goin to bed...i'm sure thread will get flooded with people ignorig everything postin and keyin on sayin duncan had a dpoy lol
 8 years ago '06        #88
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 flystylez said:
you can't forget about manu...

manu was a spare role player until 05, and even then in the finals duncan was more consistent. manu has hurt us more by being injured the last few years after the last ring.
 8 years ago '09        #89
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 jj01 said:
im talkin about the last few years which ur obviously basing kobe's "excellent" defense on, duncan doesnt need these ridiculous awards based on popularity because the teams stats on the defensive end prove it. how does bean have to carry the load when shaq put up 30 and 12 every nite while being the most dominant ever and winning 3 straight finals mvps?

also stern and the refs helped carry that load as well which has already been confirmed.

anything else jr?
...when did i say that. i said duncan doesn't have to carry the load...kobe does.(i hate having to repeat myself)
and if you make the team 9x that says something..whether you agree or not.. they voted him in.....we tlkin post shaq.. but if you wanna tlk it that far back. i swore it was kobe taking those final shots..whether he made em or not.
 8 years ago '09        #90
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 jj01 said:
manu was a spare role player until 05, and even then in the finals duncan was more consistent. manu has hurt us more by being injured the last few years after the last ring.
manu came up big when it counted..always during post season play...if you say up til 05. that means he was a big role in 05 and 07 champ. but this isn't about duncan or shaq or whoever
 12-20-2009, 10:18 PM         #91
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he needs at least 6 and maybe 1 more mvp. stop sayin that this era is harder to play in then before. yes this era has more athletic and talented players but did you watch basketball in the 90s man. when jordan came in the league u were allowed to hand check n*ggas with two hands. then they changed it to one hand. you know how much harder even one hand makes it to drive. thats how we still play street ball when n*ggas drive u just kinda push them back out with your forearm but nowadays in the nba you are not allowed to hand check at all. they call fouls over touchin the player at times.

defenses were so much more physical back in the day. just do this, look at kobes 81 point game and look at all his points. he didnt do anything crazy to get to the basket just a simple crossover and he was in there. obviously he played remarkable that game but if you remember the defense it was awful. these days noone is allowed to put a hand on u and that just makes it a lot easier. people just drive to the basket with such ease these days. teams be scorin over a 100 points on average, back in the day 100 was a big number now its an everyday thing.
 8 years ago '04        #92
A.G 27 heat pts27
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With 5&2, he'll be in the Bird/Oscar top 4-7 discussion IMO.
 8 years ago '04        #93
notoriousthugzz 51 heat pts51
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 TheT said:
Go on google and type "Kobe greatest of all time" and watch how many results you get.


Kobe = GOAT :applause:
you must be like 17
 8 years ago '09        #94
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 Gattsau said:
@ youtube videos. I swear your like 15 and never watched a game. shaq avg'd 38 and dam near 17 rpg. kobe avgd 15 ppg. da fuk u talking about?

and duncan carried the scoring load alot for the spurs and is the reason his teammates get so many open looks.
smh.......that's all imma say that post.
 8 years ago '04        #95
A.G 27 heat pts27
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in all fairness, you guys are both idiots..
 8 years ago '09        #96
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 Gattsau said:
of course you have no arguement and have gotten sonned horribly in this thread.

now
.......dog this must be your life. i threw the thread for a debate. i'm just tired of going back and forth. if you disagree it's all good. if you agree it's all good. but YOU went way out the way.
 8 years ago '06        #97
marcusaka50 59 heat pts59
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It doesn't matter who played in this era or MJ era nobody in L can guard Kobe just like nobdy can guard MJ individually.

In the MJ era he kept a championship team together for six rings and Kobe didn't.

Both are the greatest two scorers in NBA history everybody already knows this.

My opinion there is nothing MJ can do that Kobe can't.

MJ is the greatest is career speaks for its self


Last edited by marcusaka50; 12-20-2009 at 10:47 PM..
 8 years ago '09        #98
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 akademiks said:
in all fairness, you guys are both idiots..
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 8 years ago '08        #99
GrownmanJ 21 heat pts21
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7 rings will do it imo. But they have to be in a row. Meaning, he has to win these next three, beating boston, cleveland (lebron), and whoever. And he has to get MVP each of these next three seasons...
 8 years ago '04        #100
iMaGrOWNassMAN! 
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 paidNfull said:
lmao @ Jordan having Byron Russell or John Stockton guarding him, Kobe would destroyed them cats


lol at Kobe having Courtney Lee and Pietrus guarding him. Jordan woulda destroyed them cats. As well as Raja Bell, Kevin Ollie, Richard Jefferson, Aaron McKie and whoever else guarded Kobe.
See how that works?

As much as I respect Kobe, I swear n*ggaz on Boxden and ESPN make me hate that damn dude.
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