5th ring/2nd Finals MVP for Kobe this year: where would he rank all time?

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 8 years ago '06        #41
philly337 20 heat pts20
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 Stillballin187 said:
lol I'm a laker fan and I grew up watching jordan. I'm not disrespecting dude. to me, kobe is one of the greatest to play. ive heard everyone talk about kobe.

so kobe does everything michael has already done....so does lebron, dwayne wade, carmelo, etc.


all these players are great players. if u personally think jordan is the greatest player to EVER play...then cool.

just dont forget that jordan looked up to magic, bird, and so on. so please reword everything ur typing.
this make no sense...and no none of the guys u named are doin what jordan already did.No offense but prolly the dumbest remark in this thread...and just because mike looked up to them doesn't hold any weight to ur argument.The guys mike looked up to called him god on the court....u won't hear micheal callin kobe,lebron,wade,or mello god on the court
 8 years ago '08        #42
sasuke-sama313 2 heat pts
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 Illuminated said:
I do all of the above and it means nothing. Do you also listen to people like Magic, Bird, Russell, Barkley and the other greats that TRULY matter constantly say that Jordan is the greatest of all-time? Undisputed.

Lol @ these Kobe stans. The guy isn't doing anything that MJ didn't already do. Only difference is, Jordan did a lot more. What Kobe is doing now, Jordan was doing this halfway into his career on a much higher level. Kobe Stans --- give it up!
and in a small market and selling out other teams arena and hand check and hard fouls and making basketball popular around the world
 8 years ago '09        #43
TheG1ftedOne 4 heat pts
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 Gattsau said:
@ this dumbass..

who was the great guard play in duncans first ring?

and a great big man helps guards be great offensively and defensively.

kobe still has all star big men so what are you trying to say?

you know nothing about sports stop posting.
Who was the great guard in Duncans first ring? They played an 8 seeded team

Talk about great competition
 8 years ago '08        #44
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6 and 6>>>>>>5 and 2
 8 years ago '09        #45
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 philly337 said:
not sure what ur point is but my point is kobe needed a big man just like every championship team needs a big man.The only player to take their team to a chip that i can think of without a big man is jordan.Kobe tried without a big man when shaq left...he didn't get far
those lakers teams were horrible. yes a supporting cast makes HUGE differences but at the same time the game has changed..its not really a bigman game anymore.. you got a dominant guard or a great core. Lakers and Kobe fit that meaning. a dominant guard with a all star type core. it just how the game has been played last 10 or so years. each champs outside of Detroit..had a big 3 (squrs, celts,) or shaq/guard
 12-20-2009, 10:31 PM         #46
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 philly337 said:
this make no sense...and no none of the guys u named are doin what jordan already did.No offense but prolly the dumbest remark in this thread...and just because mike looked up to them doesn't hold any weight to ur argument.The guys mike looked up to called him god on the court....u won't hear micheal callin kobe,lebron,wade,or mello god on the court

mj did say kobe is the best player TODAY. if not, this decade. u dont hear him saying lebron is the best to play in the game today.


if u get compliments from mj like kobe did, and has and prob still will in the yrs to come, that tells u something.
 8 years ago '06        #47
philly337 20 heat pts20
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 Main Event said:
6 and 6>>>>>>5 and 2
f**k the cardinals
 8 years ago '06        #48
philly337 20 heat pts20
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 Stillballin187 said:
mj did say kobe is the best player TODAY. if not, this decade. u dont hear him saying lebron is the best to play in the game today.


if u get compliments from mj like kobe did, and has and prob still will in the yrs to come, that tells u something.
were not sayin whether kobe is the best today..the claim is the best ever.
 8 years ago '06        #49
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 flystylez said:
those lakers teams were horrible. yes a supporting cast makes HUGE differences but at the same time the game has changed..its not really a bigman game anymore.. you got a dominant guard or a great core. Lakers and Kobe fit that meaning. a dominant guard with a all star type core. it just how the game has been played last 10 or so years. each champs outside of Detroit..had a big 3 (squrs, celts,) or shaq/guard
um no
 8 years ago '08        #50
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 philly337 said:
f**k the cardinals
Have fun on the couch
 8 years ago '06        #51
philly337 20 heat pts20
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 Main Event said:
Have fun on the couch
as if the year doesn't get any worse...would rather lose last 2 for draft picks and we play lions and rams lol.Then on top of it we got panthers 1st round and they beat vikes
 8 years ago '08        #52
sasuke-sama313 2 heat pts
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 Stillballin187 said:
mj did say kobe is the best player TODAY. if not, this decade. u dont hear him saying lebron is the best to play in the game today.


if u get compliments from mj like kobe did, and has and prob still will in the yrs to come, that tells u something.
its kobe by default wade and bron came in 03 and kobe had u know
 8 years ago '09        #53
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 Gattsau said:
that team was much better than a 8th seed. if u watched basketball back than you wouldve reaized that
son you brought up a lock out year ring...you've yet to make excuse on duncan's 3 other rings

a great 8th seed.....
 8 years ago '09        #54
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 philly337 said:
as if the year doesn't get any worse...would rather lose last 2 for draft picks and we play lions and rams lol.Then on top of it we got panthers 1st round and they beat vikes
f**k the damn panthers...i'm mad that we won smh....now they got excuse to keep john fox...
 8 years ago '06        #55
philly337 20 heat pts20
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i just wish when they make these comparisons on espn and s**t these "experts" knew what the f**k they was talkin about.Half the time they got the guy defending jordan they say "he won 6 titles" lol and don't mention every other thing and the fact kobe has already played as many years as mike did in chicago
 8 years ago '07        #56
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jordan beat magic and and lakers, clyde and the blazers, barkely and the suns, malone, stockton and the jazz and kemp,payton and the sonics. kobe beat the sixers, magic......enough said. wow weak teams. but kobe will be in the discussion, although i dont think he will pass michael
 8 years ago '09        #57
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 Gattsau said:
whats your point.

kobes first 3 rings it was him and shaq, last year it was him shaq and odom.

no1 wins alone genius. im not getting your point. u were wrong and i proved dont try and change your statement now. duncan won without a all star caliber guard. lets see kobe win without a all star big man
dog...you proved what????

i'll admit kobe had shaq

shaq had penny and wade also..and he played with nash. and is playing with lebron

didn't say players win alone....YOU STILL CAN'T READ

can kobe win without a bigman...hell if i know. that may be the lifetime debate

i'm just asking is 5 and 2 enough to THROW HIM IN THE TALKS...that's all but i forgot you can't read...so go ahead and twist that
 8 years ago '09        #58
flystylez 1 heat pts OP
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 Gattsau said:
what does the lockout have to do with winning in the postseason .

your trying to downplay duncan for that? How about the fact that a ref admitted the nba fixed playoff games for kboe and the lakers .

why would i use a excuse for any of duncans rings? they were all legit
that ring is not legit...at all lets be serious

and i could of sworn duncan has lost to kobe (and shaq so you doon't start crying) a few times head 2 head...

and you said it..8th seed
 8 years ago '06        #59
philly337 20 heat pts20
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 flystylez said:
dog...you proved what????

i'll admit kobe had shaq

shaq had penny and wade also..and he played with nash. and is playing with lebron

didn't say players win alone....YOU STILL CAN'T READ

can kobe win without a bigman...hell if i know. that may be the lifetime debate

i'm just asking is 5 and 2 enough to THROW HIM IN THE TALKS...that's all but i forgot you can't read...so go ahead and twist that
well the answer is no.....duncan would only need 1 more championship to match that feat and he would not even be considered in the same dicsussion as jordan because the media wants kobe to fill that role
 8 years ago '06        #60
jj01 
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 flystylez said:
dog...you proved what????

i'll admit kobe had shaq

shaq had penny and wade also..and he played with nash. and is playing with lebron

didn't say players win alone....YOU STILL CAN'T READ

can kobe win without a bigman...hell if i know. that may be the lifetime debate

i'm just asking is 5 and 2 enough to THROW HIM IN THE TALKS...that's all but i forgot you can't read...so go ahead and twist that

the talks should have ended when he quit in a game 7 and sabotaged a finals series because he wanted to be the center of attention.
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