this is my theory and my post probably won't get you to see the original Batman in any different way...if there were no Burton film..there would be no Dark Knight..how can you have such a big problem with Burton's film when Nolan took so many storylines from the original Batman..
Nolans Batman is overhyped...yep I said it OVERHYPED..the lore of Heath Ledgers death attracted movie goers more.."Your nobody to somebody k!lls you"..that's not to say Heath isn't a great actor..he did a great Joker..matter fact the only scenes I really like in Nolans batman where the scenes with Joker..and if you ask most ppl about Nolans Dark Knight most ppl will say Joker..
Keaton was more of a factor in Batman then Bale was...in Dark Knight nobody really cares about Batman or even Two Face(ppl talk about Venom having a small role in SP3, they just threw Two Face in there for a cheap thrill..no great scene with Two Face in it)the only decent scene involving Two Face was when "YOU GUESSED IT" Joker pays a visit to him in the hospital...that damn Joker hoggin the spotlight
you talk about no development?? What development did Nolans Joker have?? NONE..he just pops up on the scene causing chaos..we never know his full orgins..he doesnt' even have direct beef with Batman..Burtons Joker had development and a legit reason to beef with Batman...the famous doctor scene(when the transformation reaches the climax)
this is also another theory for the overhype of nolans Batman series..the schumacher batman films were soooooooo horrible..that Nolans take on batman was soooo refreshing.. cuz ppl had low expectations for Batman Begins and were shocked to see that it was actually good so the anticipation for Dark Knight was much higher..but mostly due to Ledgers death..
I acknowledge that Burton's films laid the groundwork, but what Nolan did was take element's of Burton's films, and made fun of them. And, no development? really? Were you watching "The Dark Knight" on a plane or something with scenes cut out? Two Face GOT a full arc, we saw his full origins, and witnessed his evolution from Harvey Dent to Two Face. We even got scenes of him pre-two face showing qualities that lead us to believe that he is unstable. And, as for The Joker's development, it's scarier that WE DON'T KNOW where he came from. But, the development as a character that we get in the movie of not just where he comes from, but what his actions mean is better than him "falling in a vat of radioactive whatever-stuff".
And, number two: even IF Heath didn't die, the movie would still be considered great. In fact, before Heath even died, they were trying to get together a campaign to get him some Oscar attention BEFORE the movie came out. They were THAT confident in it. Look, I know people who work at Warner Bros. who, before he died, were saying that the movie was coming out amazing based on the work that they've seen. So, that leads me to believe that even IF he didn't die, the movie would still be considered great by many.
And, what storylines are you speaking of? Scarecrow? Nope, not in Burton's films. Two-Face? Nope, not in Burton's films. Bruce Wayne before he became Batman? Nope. What about even Arkham Asylum? NOPE, we didn't even get any of that in his films. What elements are you talking about? The only elements I see are the elements of The Joker, and those are used as a parody of Nicholson's Joker.
We'll just agree to disagree, I just don't think that Burton's films are anywhere near as good as Nolan's. I appreciate his films for laying the groundwork, and that's pretty much it...
well, no. I actually did like Batman Returns as a legitimate movie.