If Eminem drops Relapse2 and it sounds like MMLP and TheEminem Show will it secure his spot as GOAT?

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 8 years ago '08        #101
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No. For the simple reason that I honestly believe, nobody will ever be able make the ultimate case, that any one rapper, is greater than all other rappers. In such a way that everyone completely agrees.
 02-21-2010, 07:19 PM         #102
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To me Em has a long way to go until he surpasses Nas or Jay for any type of greatest spot

And then theres MCs like Scarface who doesn't get the love he deserves but is light years ahead of Em

I feel like no matter how Relapse 2 is the fans will praise it though
 8 years ago '09        #103
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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"I feel like no matter how Relapse 2 is the fans will praise it though"

People were split on Relapse and definitely didnt praise Encore all that much,he aint immune to criticism.

Relapse 2 has to be atleast very near a classic because of how long he has been working on it and the fact he himself said he was on top of his game.Mr Porter said there was no filler and Eminem said there will be no goofy single which must mean there are none of those kinda songs.


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 02-21-2010, 07:28 PM         #104
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
"I feel like no matter how Relapse 2 is the fans will praise it though"

People were split on Relapse and definitely didnt praise Encore all that much.
what people? I'm talking about on this site, relapse was winning mad polls and praising Encore "all that much", that album shouldn't be praised at all, 4 dope tracks at the most

Edit: and look at yourself, you just proved my point, you're already a.ssuming it'll be "near classic" because of what Em and his a.ssociates said


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 8 years ago '09        #105
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 REAL_NESS said:
To me Em has a long way to go until he surpasses Nas or Jay for any type of greatest spot

And then theres MCs like Scarface who doesn't get the love he deserves but is light years ahead of Em

I feel like no matter how Relapse 2 is the fans will praise it though
:agreement6::agreement6: scarface >>>>> eminem
 8 years ago '09        #106
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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 REAL_NESS said:
what people? I'm talking about on this site, relapse was winning mad polls and praising Encore "all that much", that album shouldn't be praised at all, 4 dope tracks at the most
People are split everywhere,if you dont like the accent you dont like the album.Nobody was going around calling it a classic or anything which has been shouted around about a number of unclassic albums.

Encore had some hot songs,some good songs and some songs that were his worst ever.It was a massive step down but it was in no way as bad as some people say it was.
 02-21-2010, 07:39 PM         #107
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Encore was horrible, and Relapse having low replay value is not just about an "accent"

Like I said hardcore fans, such as yourself will praise the album no matter what.
Lets at least wait to hear the music before saying as you said "it'll at least be a near classic"
 8 years ago '09        #108
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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 REAL_NESS said:
and look at yourself, you just proved my point, you're already a.ssuming it'll be "near classic" because of what Em and his a.ssociates said
Exactly cause he aint a bighead who would shout s**t around for no reason,he must feel the album is hot and he has been adding new songs since that interview.

If someone was blabbing around they were the best rapper alive id expect them to be very good,that didnt work out for that guy though so maybe im being to hasty on my Relapse 2 prediction.
 8 years ago '07        #109
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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IMO

If were talking about Material....content on album

If Relapse 2 is a classic

That means he has 3 classics

Eminem Show

MMLP

and Relapse 2

SSLP is a 4.5/5

Relapse is a 4/5

and Encore is a 3/5

Now Nas has 2 classics and Jay has 1 IMO, Pac Imo has 3, Snoop has 1, and Dre has 2
 8 years ago '04        #110
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 ra1n said:
I think after 2 more classic albums. (including R2) no accent. serious content. on point production. mmlp/emshow type albums =



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 02-21-2010, 07:52 PM         #111
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Jay has 1 classic? i noticed you put that "IMO" so I think you even know you wilding

Nas has only 2 classics?

And the fact that you added Snoop and Dre in the argument is a joke. Dre doesn't write his own rhymes and Snoop has never been in consistent GOAT convos. And no mention of Face, Cube, Ghostface, Common, Rakim? wow
 8 years ago '04        #112
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 Mr. Snowman said:
IMO

If were talking about Material....content on album

If Relapse 2 is a classic

That means he has 3 classics

Eminem Show

MMLP

and Relapse 2

SSLP is a 4.5/5

Relapse is a 4/5

and Encore is a 3/5

Now Nas has 2 classics and Jay has 1 IMO, Pac Imo has 3, Snoop has 1, and Dre has 2

all just ur opinion really and No Goats Dont Fall Off... Em Has two more albums left out of him then hell be a 40 year old talking about the same stuff em content has to change to be one of the best hes just very skilled so was canibus
 8 years ago '09        #113
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 REAL_NESS said:
Jay has 1 classic? i noticed you put that "IMO" so I think you even know you wilding

Nas has only 2 classics?

And the fact that you added Snoop and Dre in the argument is a joke. Dre doesn't write his own rhymes and Snoop has never been in consistent GOAT convos. And no mention of Face, Cube, Ghostface, Common, Rakim? wow
:agreement6: @ n*ggaz sleeping on scarface & ghostface k!llah,
eminem don't have a real classic which is on the diary illmatic reasonable doubt doggystyle doe or die chronic level face it
 8 years ago '07        #114
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 ash1990 said:
:agreement6: @ n*ggaz sleeping on scarface & ghostface k!llah,
eminem don't have a real classic which is on the diary illmatic reasonable doubt doggystyle doe or die chronic level face it
Calm Down Realness


I wasnt sleeping on them i was just discussing the 3 most prominent Em Jay and Nas (dont know why i threw snoop and dre)

IMO


Nas/Eminem > Scarface> Ghostface > Jay > Rakim

only classic jays put out is blueprint...Reasonable Doubt was a 4.5/5 for me


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 02-21-2010, 08:53 PM         #115
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everybody calm, are you?

just disputing your opinion because its funny that you have blueprint as Jays only classic when hes not even that lyrically sharp on it compared to RD. Blueprint is classic because of the sound.

For me it goes:
Jay/Nas > Scarface/Rakim > Cube > Ghost > Common

And Em isn't in my discussion because at the end of the day, neither is Bis,Royce, Thought or 3stacks (Thought and 3stacks need more solos)
 8 years ago '06        #116
Pitts Gutta 18 heat pts18
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No,Jigga man is about 5 years ahead
 8 years ago '07        #117
1LynguisticMind 177 heat pts177 OP
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 Pitts Gutta said:
No,Jigga man is about 5 years ahead
 8 years ago '04        #118
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 REAL_NESS said:
what people? I'm talking about on this site, relapse was winning mad polls and praising Encore "all that much", that album shouldn't be praised at all, 4 dope tracks at the most

Edit: and look at yourself, you just proved my point, you're already a.ssuming it'll be "near classic" because of what Em and his a.ssociates said
 8 years ago '10        #119
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 Mr. Snowman said:
drops Relapse 2.....and it sounds like MMLP and The Eminem Show will it secure is spot as the GOAT???

sure Encore was a fall off ( it could have been a classic if the cuts on Raw and Uncut didnt leak early)

and Relapse was not for everyone even though it was fire IMO (corny voice, gross content, etc.)

but honestly if this came out with and it was classic...I think its gonna be the old eminem, in his last 2 verses (drop the world, and forever) he just goes off on that s**t....

i think that would be a wrap

The only one in contention still is Nas Imo after jays recent albums......
That wasn't Eminem's best, the s**t was corny, even he realized how whack it was after it released.
 8 years ago '09        #120
ShadyVsEminem 248 heat pts248
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How is his Drop the world or Forever verses corny? Smack that and Touchdown=corny

They aint his best verses from last year and they are definitely not him at his absolute best but they aint corny.
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