Who Is The Better Overall MC..Black Thought Or Eminem?

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Better Overall MC Black Thought Or Eminem
Black Thought 62 48.82%
Eminem 65 51.18%
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 8 years ago '04        #81
DJ Maximum|M 48 heat pts48
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 HotepSuns said:
what do you mean by this?
because hes white...
 8 years ago '09        #82
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244
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 thegoldenhero said:
yea again not arguin in the flow department...Thought still iller in everything else...Em can keep the flow...Thought got the lyrics and the content
Eminems content since his return has been lacking but apparently will be rectified on Relapse 2.People in the past complained about his songs being to personal and how they wanted Shady back now he is back they want the personal stuff again.

Eminem is one of the bets lyricists ever,its hard to split the people at the top.Hooks are a big part of songs(some would disagree)and Eminem has them coming from all angles aswell.


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 02-10-2010, 07:38 PM         #83
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 JBeezy said:
And I already answered. When discussing rappers of this caliber, whether it be Em, BT, Nas, Jay, BIG etc.....the skills of each are so sick you can't pick a winner. They aren't athletes that can be ranked in a statistical fashion besides sales.

I prefer Em over BT.....but BT is a sick too.


of course you can...you can judge wordplay,story telling ability,song writing,live show..a myriad of things...they aren't all at the same level with each of these categories..hence OVERALL being the KEY word in the title of the thread....



you're just choosing to not really delve into the different categories that can be broken down..
 8 years ago '09        #84
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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judging is easy for me...

Lyrics: Thought
Content/subjects: Thought
Storytelling: Thought
Live Shows: Thought
Flow: Eminem
 8 years ago '05        #85
MrMayface 
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Black Thought by a mile. He's the best in the game!
 8 years ago '08        #86
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 thegoldenhero said:
judging is easy for me...

Lyrics: Thought
Content/subjects: Thought
Storytelling: Thought
Live Shows: Thought

Flow: Eminem
"do you listen to music or do u just skim thru it?"

f**k outta here

Em is 1 of the best lyricist and better than Thought....

and have u heard song Stan prolly the best story telling song in rap history?

The only thing Thought has on Em is content...
 8 years ago '10        #87
knowlege bass 
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 Menelek said:
Like Em Says half the s**t he says He make Ups. Thats the biggest problem I have when ppl say he's the Goat and s**t. With that said tho, I could never say his technical rhyme skills isnt dope; Breathing, Flow, Wordplay, and rhyme schemes. Its his substance that keeps me from saying he's the best.

I think em is better at hooks and songwriting even tho its make believe s**t. as far as just spitting their pretty even.
Co-sign. I personally prefer Black Thought as an emcee, I have more Roots albums than Em albums and in fact I'll probably never cop and Em album again unless he gives me good reason to. However Em has shown that he can do substance too, he chooses to do that less often but he can do it. I think he beats Thought in 2 main areas. Hook writing and variety. Thought has carried a solo album and doesn't display enough hook writing since he has ?Love and the rest to help him in that. Variety wise I find Thought sometimes sticks to the same Kool G Rap-influenced no-pause type schemes a lot. I find Em switches up more and displays a greater range. So in terms of "checking off the boxes" I would have to vote for Em.

Edit - but I voted for Thought...the substance part ovrrides it for me.


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 8 years ago '09        #88
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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 wepainters said:
"do you listen to music or do u just skim thru it?"

f**k outta here

Em is 1 of the best lyricist and better than Thought....

and have u heard song Stan prolly the best story telling song in rap history?

The only thing Thought has on Em is content...
lmao okay oneeee songs lmao at you thinkin em is a better storyteller than Thought lol gtfo oh and Em just has multi's lol something Thought has just as much as Em only he doesn't have to use voices to force rhymes that don't even rhyme.

Edit: And lmao at you highlighting live shows lol you think Em is better live than Thought lol takin stanin to another level


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 8 years ago '08        #89
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Thought is probably the most complete MC of all time...like seriously.

He's behind Jay, Nas, and 3000 on my list.
 8 years ago '04        #90
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 HotepSuns said:
of course you can...you can judge wordplay,story telling ability,song writing,live show..a myriad of things...they aren't all at the same level with each of these categories..hence OVERALL being the KEY word in the title of the thread....



you're just choosing to not really delve into the different categories that can be broken down..
I understand the different variables that make up a good MC.

All I'm doing is choosing not to bicker about two MC's that are mentioned among the GOAT's. If it was as clear as day like you're trying to make it seem, everyone would agree on the same GOAT, top 5, top 10 etc.....

Why do you think the Nas VS Jay or Pac VS BIG debates will rage on forever? Because you can't clearly pick a winner. This isn't two football teams playing where the winner is easily indicated by the final score. It's not like we're comparing someone like Rakim to f**king Soulja Boy........we're trying to pick the better of two MC's on the GOAT list. Big f**king difference.

I don't see how my stance here isn't reasonable.
 02-11-2010, 12:52 AM         #91
shortbrett  OP
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why isn't Ma$e part of this discussion?
 02-11-2010, 12:58 AM         #92
HotepSuns  OP
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 JBeezy said:
I understand the different variables that make up a good MC.

All I'm doing is choosing not to bicker about two MC's that are mentioned among the GOAT's. If it was as clear as day like you're trying to make it seem, everyone would agree on the same GOAT, top 5, top 10 etc.....

Why do you think the Nas VS Jay or Pac VS BIG debates will rage on forever? Because you can't clearly pick a winner. This isn't two football teams playing where the winner is easily indicated by the final score. It's not like we're comparing someone like Rakim to f**king Soulja Boy........we're trying to pick the better of two MC's on the GOAT list. Big f**king difference.

I don't see how my stance here isn't reasonable.


who said anything about it being clear as day?...if it was clear as day i wouldn't have made the thread to begin with..that would be pointless...like a rakim vs soulja boy thread...but this ain't that....the question,and mc's i threw up pose for interesting debate...which is the point of not only this thread,but this website in general....


you choosing not to delve into the debate is again your decision...but that does not mean that the question at hand is fruitless,because you choose to not delve....
 02-11-2010, 01:15 AM         #93
Atlanta  OP
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Em doesn't rap about s**t for the most part

it's funny cuz he seems like a thoughtful and introspective person...but his songs consist of f**gots raping mothers and stalkers chasing him
 8 years ago '09        #94
TERRANCE CRACK 48 heat pts48
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 nkflier23 said:



bet you money the crowd wouldn't have screamed that loud if Black Thought came out
:jay::jay:


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 8 years ago '08        #95
Effit 2 heat pts
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Eminem, just cuz I'm white.


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 8 years ago '06        #96
revolution03 
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really?? of course its the GOAT EMINEM :cool-smiley-009:
 8 years ago '09        #97
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 nkflier23 said:



bet you money the crowd wouldn't have screamed that loud if Black Thought came out
Uhhhh okay...Thought still better live and the better lyricist
 02-11-2010, 01:50 AM         #98
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 8 years ago '04        #99
BigJay.inc 68 heat pts68
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black thought!
 8 years ago '09        #100
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 Galaxy said:
Eminem


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Wtf you know?

lmao at people sayin Em is the better storyteller when all they point at is one song...and sayin he a better lyricist cause he can throw multi's around. And worse they think he is better live
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