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 01-14-2010, 12:30 PM         #101
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 HotepSuns said:
this is always the funniest,and most ignorant thing every athiest ever says....as if what you believe isn't a BELIEF...
Radically, belief is a requisite for knowledge.

I know I have beliefs, beliefs which can be supported with fact, thanks for reiterating that.
 8 years ago '10        #102
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 CHRONICLE said:
Uh, most of the world does lack education.

Higher education leads/correlates to atheism and agnosticism

No, a lot of nonsensical religions still exist, and the Dionysus festivals are still taking place, n*ggas are still sacrificing and cannibalizing, and asceticism is alive and well.

All major religions can be disproved.
Their are allot of religious educated people though.

Weaker religions can exist but will not be in the spotlight as the stronger ones and will probably fade away as time goes on.

Good luck with that lol since there is still evidence for major religions.

And the matter dealing with whether God exists or not is belief whether your theist or atheist both sides are beliefs with not much facts pertaining to both in that subject.


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 01-14-2010, 12:36 PM         #103
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 Left Hook said:
This thread saddens the hell out of me. I don't want to get into the whole argument, but a word to the atheists... can you stop being so aggressive? See, if you wanted to be aggressive, that's cool -- just make sure you didn't accuse the Christians of being hypocrites and bigots first.

You've labeled the Christians here as hypocrites and bigots for condemning other beliefs, yet you yourselves can't be open to the fact that many individuals gain strength from religion. We're not even talking about fact or fiction right now, I'm just construing the fact that you've called others a hypocrite, yet you yourselves have proven to be less than gentleman-like.

See the picture someone posted showed a Christian being a douchebag, and some are, and most of you atheists agreed. Yet when the Christians came here to defend their faith, the faith that have given them and/or their families strength, you try to deny their belief by saying it's false. In a post-modern world, all this is arguable. But then again, as I said, we're not even arguing about God vs Science or Christianity vs Atheism right now. I'm just trying to point at the fact that you need to look in the mirror yourselves man, 'cause the way I see it, the Christians here are just trying to defend what they believe in, and some of you are trying to shut it down with some real ignorant talk.

Maybe it's bad experience with another fellow Christian, maybe it's because you weren't brought up by Christian values, but I know there's a reason for your resistance to religion. To say that parents teach Heaven and Hell just to instill fear is - to me - plain ignorant. Churches collecting money to rob the poor? Hey man, have you been disappointed by religion before? I just want to know where all this antagonism is coming from. There are churches out there that tirelessly work voluntarily to help the many third world countries out there. They selflessly work without pay just to see a better world.

Again, please, my post isn't even about trying to prove God's existence. It's about some of the atheists here needing to be a little more introspective and look at yourselves before you point the finger at other people.

As for me? I'm a Christian. One look at the vast sea, the trees, the animals and the humans is all I need to acknowledge that all this didn't "just come about". To me, there had to be a Creator. And I hope you don't label me as "stupid" or "know nothing about science". While I might not excel in science, I currently undertake a double degree course in both Law and Business at a top-tiered university. Your logic is that if you believe in something you don't see = you're dumb. And I just don't see the logic in that.

Hope you dudes don't get offended at this wall of text, I was just speaking my mind.
You're right, the formations and systems of the earth didn't "just come about" (as many religious people would suggest), they took Billions of years to develop into what they are today.
 01-14-2010, 12:40 PM         #104
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 Shade737 said:
Their are allot of religious educated people though.

They can exists but will not be in the spotlight as the stronger ones.

Good luck with that lol since there is still evidence for major religions.

And the matter dealing with whether God exists or not is belief whether your theist or atheist.
I know there are formally educated religious people, I know some smart religious people.

They usually agree with most of my arguments or excels at a field removed from science.

Most the one's I know tend to agree with me, and they know that their belief has a lack of foundation, but they believe by emotion or tradition.

God doesn't exist, that is my belief which is supported with arguments based on facts.


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 8 years ago '10        #105
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 CHRONICLE said:
I know there are formally educated religious people, I know some smart religious people.

They usually agree with most of my arguments or excels at a field removed from science.

Most the one's I know tend to agree with me, and they know that their belief has a lack of foundation, but they believe by emotion or tradition.
Well it is an uncharted area when it comes to accepted fact of it being true or not so its stays in belief category and it depends on the person whether they agree with the collected truth of the religion or not.


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 01-14-2010, 12:47 PM         #106
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 Shade737 said:
Good luck with that lol since there is still evidence for major religions.
Nah, the evidence is lacking.
 8 years ago '10        #107
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 CHRONICLE said:
Nah, the evidence is lacking.
It still has some to not be disproven.
 01-14-2010, 12:56 PM         #108
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 Shade737 said:
It still has some to not be disproven.
Lets do a quick run through of Christianity...

Evolution disproves it easily:

Since evolution is fact, God didn't really create Adam and Eve, nor did he "make her from Adam's rib"; Since Adam and Eve weren't created by God, no one ever actually sinned by eating the apple; since no one sinned, there was no point for Jesus to redeem humanity; since there was no point for Jesus, there's really no purpose for Christianity.
 8 years ago '08        #109
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Jay got beat but this battle was nothing but pure s**t. Amzilla had one good line. DNA is that n*gga tho.
 8 years ago '05        #110
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 CHRONICLE said:
Lets do a quick run through of Christianity...

Evolution disproves it easily:

Since evolution is fact, God didn't really create Adam and Eve, nor did he "make her from Adam's rib"; Since Adam and Eve weren't created by God, no one ever actually sinned by eating the apple; since no one sinned, there was no point for Jesus to redeem humanity; since there was no point for Jesus, there's really no purpose for Christianity.
"Since evolution is fact"

Everything is arguable, and I'm not in the mood to argue semantics. Let's all just back away from this thread because you're not going to convince me that God doesn't exit, and I'm not going to convince you that there's a Man up in the clouds
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 CHRONICLE said:
Lets do a quick run through of Christianity...

Evolution disproves it easily:

Since evolution is fact, God didn't really create Adam and Eve, nor did he "make her from Adam's rib"; Since Adam and Eve weren't created by God, no one ever actually sinned by eating the apple; since no one sinned, there was no point for Jesus to redeem humanity; since there was no point for Jesus, there's really no purpose for Christianity.
This cant be disproved when evolution itself doesn't cover this event specifically. It sheds some light but it can't show when we aren't on a factual level with that matter.


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 01-14-2010, 01:09 PM         #112
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 CHRONICLE said:
Radically, belief is a requisite for knowledge.

I know I have beliefs, beliefs which can be supported with fact, thanks for reiterating that.


your facts only run so far....the basis for your belief is based on an incomplete theory...thus making it no more "factual" than the very religions which you scoff at....



it all boils down to belief.....
 8 years ago '08        #113
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 01-14-2010, 01:16 PM         #114
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 Left Hook said:
"Since evolution is fact"

Everything is arguable, and I'm not in the mood to argue semantics. Let's all just back away from this thread because you're not going to convince me that God doesn't exit, and I'm not going to convince you that there's a Man up in the clouds
Evolution is a fact, idiot.
 01-14-2010, 01:16 PM         #115
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 HotepSuns said:
your facts only run so far....the basis for your belief is based on an incomplete theory...thus making it no more "factual" than the very religions which you scoff at....



it all boils down to belief.....
Which theory is that?
 01-14-2010, 01:17 PM         #116
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 Shade737 said:
This cant be disproved when evolution itself doesn't cover this event specifically. It sheds some light but it can't show when we aren't on a factual level with that matter.
Disprove what I said.
 8 years ago '10        #117
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 CHRONICLE said:
Disprove what I said.
What is there to disprove?

Thats uncharted territory until more info is collected. Its a thought trying to insert evolution into things. Its like something to think about but not make conclusions from yet.


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 01-14-2010, 01:21 PM         #118
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 CHRONICLE said:
Which theory is that?


evolution...
 01-14-2010, 01:24 PM         #119
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 HotepSuns said:
evolution...
Evolution is fact.



Click that for more information.
 01-14-2010, 01:31 PM         #120
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 CHRONICLE said:
Evolution is fact.



Click that for more information.


trust me i've seen most all there is to see on evolution...it is based on a theory that is missing entirely to much information to ever be considered "fact".....there is nobody on this planet who can categorically prove evolution....it's just the most scientific theory they can come up with right now....thus making it more faith,than science....
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