Maybe Black QB's just suck

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 8 years ago '06        #121
Against D Grain 
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Back then and now Black QBs never stay at the QB position long enough to get a full grasp of the position to excel to say the least. Like someone mention earlier, Black QBs were put at the QB position because they were playmakers and coaches wanted the ball in their hand at all times. Black Qbs probably were taught to have one or two reads if nothing there make the play on your own. If Black QBs were talented enough to make it to the next level (College or Pros) they get switched to another position (WR, RB, S, CB) without even given a chance to show their stuff.

Especially with this Spread Offense moving down to the lower ranks of football, Black QBs are starting to become more common now than ever. But still get moved to another position and only a few will stay at QB.

Isiah Stanback, Atwain Randall-El, Brad Smith just to name few in the NFL today. It's even more common at the College Ranks, Where 99% chance your favorite college team have someone who played QB in highschool and got moved either to DB or WR in college. Hell even Ray Lewis was the QB at his highschool in Florida and his a.ss is at Middle Linebacker now...
 8 years ago '08        #122
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in six years or so when Obama is out of the office...they're gonna say "black presidents sucked".....its an unfair judgment, seeing that we've only had one black commander in chief......we've only had a total of 4% Minority QBs in the history of the league....we weren't allowed to be QBS until 20-25 years ago
 03-03-2010, 04:06 AM         #123
malikmoore9  OP
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We can be honest with this subject..... Black qb's do suck but not by their standards of being a qb. When you look at high school qbs that are black they are taught to run when they see a hole which makes them running back minded. They hardly get the basic foundation of how to throw the ball ie vick and young. They are brought into college to do the same thing. The college coach changes his whole philosphy of coaching to validate having an african american at qb. They go to a shotgun only system where the qb can read and react. Still no one is actually going over how to be a qb and stay in the pocket and throw. They win a national championship if they are lucky and they get to the NFL where again the system is catered to them until they get hurt or are no longer able to run and then they are just flat out bums. The only thing that seperated Mcnabb for a short time was that he honed his skills and learned how to get rid of the ball and a few years later when he was able to get around a little more he started scrambling all over the place again. Its not the qb's fault in the least its the f**king system teaching them to be horses instead of leaders.
 8 years ago '10        #124
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 luker1920 said:
whether its Leftwich, wether its Russel, wether its Cambpell

and all that talk about Mcnabb sucking and then Vick backers saying vick is a starter and people thinking vick sucks.

Maybe Black QB's just suck in the NFL


They suck because highschool and college coaches do not groom them the way they would a white QB. Not many white QBs are going to blaze down the field for TDs so you are more stubborn in improving their pocket presense. Blame lies on the black QB as well for relying on their athleticism so much. Would be nice if a coach improved their pocket presense more but at the end of the day its the coaches job to win games.
 03-03-2010, 12:14 PM         #125
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moon>>>>>>>>>>
 8 years ago '04        #126
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It's just not that many. It's talented black QBs, it's just NFL coaches see their physical talent better suited at other positions like the following: Hines Ward (WR), Randel El (WR), Brad Smith (WR)
 8 years ago '05        #127
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Warren Moon=Black Dan Marino.




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 03-03-2010, 05:40 PM         #128
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 peeyump said:
They suck because highschool and college coaches do not groom them the way they would a white QB. Not many white QBs are going to blaze down the field for TDs so you are more stubborn in improving their pocket presense. Blame lies on the black QB as well for relying on their athleticism so much. Would be nice if a coach improved their pocket presense more but at the end of the day its the coaches job to win games.
didn't tressel try to make pryor more of a pocket passer this year? how did that turn out? every osu fan was screaming for him to run more. black qbs are given a chance to develop just like white qbs
 8 years ago '06        #129
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 luker1920 said:
statistically? Moon was not that great, but he was a very good qb
look at the dude stats....u don't get in the HOF by being a very good QB, fu*k outta here
 8 years ago '05        #130
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they be paying them f**kers too much that they can't afford decent targets to throw the ball to. but jamarcus russell and quincy carter just sucked.
 8 years ago '10        #131
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 colhu7 said:
didn't tressel try to make pryor more of a pocket passer this year? how did that turn out? every osu fan was screaming for him to run more. black qbs are given a chance to develop just like white qbs

You must made my point.

How was he given a chance? Try a couple of times "uh nevermind RUN!"? I said it starts with HS. He was a dual threat so there he was groomed to be a pocket passer. Kid is not going to change his playing style in one season.....maybe not even two.....they get four playing years at college. Like I said though its the coaches job to win.....no time for improving a guy for the better of his future. Win now.....die later.
 8 years ago '04        #132
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lots of black madness in here











yall mad?
 8 years ago '07        #133
Eddie..|M 12 heat pts12
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Warren Moon is easily top ten QB ever
 03-04-2010, 11:37 AM         #134
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its nothing to do with race, but yes the idea of a run first quarterback doing well in the nfl is a long shot


guys like ben roethlisbuger and donny mac show they can both run and throw

or throw WHILE on the run, having success with all 3

proving race isnt the issue
 8 years ago '05        #135
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 J.R. Hyphy said:
It's disgusting how Philly organizationn s**tted on McNabb season after season.


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andy reid called him a hall of famer last year...yeah they really s**tted on him , if you are not an eagles fan stop acting like you really know what goes on around here
 8 years ago '07        #136
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Maybe the color of someones skin has nothing to do with their talent.
 8 years ago '06        #137
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 kidbrosweets said:
Maybe the color of someones skin has nothing to do with their talent.
Then why are there no White Halfbacks?
 8 years ago '06        #138
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 J.R. Hyphy said:
It's disgusting how Philly organizationn s**tted on McNabb season after season.


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yea they really have s**tted on him giving him that 100+ million dollar contract. @ the eagles disrespect of mcnabb
 03-30-2010, 07:05 PM         #139
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when it comes down to it, black qb's just buckle under pressure
 8 years ago '05        #140
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 J.R. Hyphy said:
I don't need to be a f**kin eagles fan , I'm a football fan. Stop acting like you own the s**t scrub. I guess last year is when they drafted Kevin Kolb and got Jeff Garcia.
thats the best you can come up with is that we drafted kolb and got jeff garcia yeah that really shows that our organization s**tted on him huh clown? that s**t makes no sense and you DONT KNOW s**t about my team and this post did nothing but further prove it
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