Manny Pacquiao vs Joshua Clottey [3-13-10][HBO-PPV]

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Winner
Joshua Clottey by KO 12 15.58%
Joshua Clottey by Decision 8 10.39%
Draw 0 0%
Manny Pacquiao by KO 30 38.96%
Manny Pacquiao by Decision 27 35.06%
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 8 years ago '07        #61
stogz 18 heat pts18
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 kevkhalee said:
Cause PBF f!ghtin off instinct, which is better than having a plan.

"Everyone has a plan until they get hit"
~Iron Mike

Ask Chazz Witherspoon. He studied Arreola like a book.
Got in the ring, and felt that raw power. Threw the plans out the window.

I believe Clottey has a madman's chance.
He still gonna get knocked though.
Regardless of if you can adapt on the fly or not, it is always a good idea to have a plan. Just because you have an A+ in math class through the entire semester, doesn't mean you shouldn't study for the final exam.
 8 years ago '06        #62
kevkhalee 1 heat pts
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 stogz said:
Regardless of if you can adapt on the fly or not, it is always a good idea to have a plan. Just because you have an A+ in math class through the entire semester, doesn't mean you shouldn't study for the final exam.
Stogz, if you have an A+ then they dont make you take finals.


but i get what you mean
 8 years ago '07        #63
stogz 18 heat pts18
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 kevkhalee said:
Stogz, if you have an A+ then they dont make you take finals.


but i get what you mean
I dunno about your school.... but, my school, the exam is worth 30% of your final mark, and you need a 70% to pass the class.


Anyway,

Manny Pacquiao will make an encore appearance on ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live on Wednesday (March 3 at 12:05 a.m. ET/PT). Pacquiao made his U.S. network television debut on the show last November earning rave reviews for his good humor and singing performance.

I didn't know that he was on Kimmel previously...
 8 years ago '09        #65
Gonzilla 1 heat pts
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Haven't heard much from this Clottey guy till now, so I can't say i'm a fan but imma still root for him.

f**k paquiao for pus*ying out from pretty boy mayweather. :thumbsdow
 8 years ago '06        #66
kevkhalee 1 heat pts
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haha funny vid
Pac "You know you done f**k up right?"
lol

Damn this is a f!ght i would have liked to see a 24/7 on.
 8 years ago '06        #67
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RingTV.com Co-Editors Doug Fischer and Michael Rosenthal have different takes on the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey f!ght on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Fischer thinks it will be a competitive f!ght, Rosenthal doesn’t.

Here are Fischer’s five reasons the f!ght will be competitive and Rosenthal’s five reasons it wont.

WILL BE COMPETITIVE

1. SIZE: Clottey is a natural welterweight. Pacquiao has delivered in his two welterweight outings, but it should be noted that Oscar De La Hoya foolishly came in too light and Cotto is not a large 147 pounder. Clottey, who stands around 5-foot-8, is not a tall welterweight but he’s very compact with dense muscle. The Ghanaian, who f!ghts comfortably and effectively at junior middleweight, has not weighed in the junior welterweight range since he was 19 years old. It wouldn’t be a shock to insiders if Clottey weighed a rock-solid 160 pounds on f!ght night for Pacquiao.

2. DEFENSE: When Clottey covers up behind his high guard, his opponents might as well be f!ghting a bowling ball. He tucks his chin behind his gloves, offering only the top of his bald head as a potentially dangerous target, while his forearms and elbows almost completely cover his stomach and frontal rib area. Clottey, who seldom drops his hands, also does a good job of leaning away from punches. Few f!ghters love a shootout as much as Pacquiao because the dynamic southpaw does his best work against aggressive opponents. Clottey’s hit-and-cover-up tactics may frustrate the Filipino, who will have a difficult time landing clean punches to the bigger man’s chin and body.

3. DURABILITY: Even if Pacquiao is able to penetrate Clottey’s high guard, the welterweight contender has the last line of defense for any f!ghter lucky enough to have this attribute: a rock-solid chin. Although Clottey, who has never been stopped in a professional bout, was dropped by a stiff jab from Cotto in the first round of their bout (the only time he‘s ever been down), he has never appeared to be seriously hurt in a f!ght. Both Cotto and Zab Judah are known for their power but neither f!ghter could hurt or discourage Clottey, even when they landed clean shots. Antonio Margarito set an all-time CompuBox record of 1,675 total punches thrown in a 12-round bout against Clottey and never came close to hurting the Ghanaian.

4. BODY PUNCHING: Every hardcore fan knows about Clottey’s quick jab and his textbook left uppercut, but he also has a crippling left to the body with which he’s able to punctuate one-two combinations or sneak in after he lands his uppercut. Clottey’s left to the body is hard and accurate enough to have stopped junior middleweight opponents and it was a key punch in giving both Cotto and Margarito fits in their tough 12-round outings with him. Pacquiao proved to have world-class welterweight whiskers during his showdown with Cotto, but how well does he take a genuine 147 pounder’s punch to the body?

5. UNDERRATED FOOTWORK: Clottey’s not known for his lateral or in-and-out movement because he’s not a stick-and-move specialist but his foot placement (balance) and footwork is better than many fans realize. Clottey’s footwork is subtle but effective. He is very good at taking half a step out of his opponent’s range while blocking in-coming punches with his gloves and then stepping back in range to catch them off guard. Clottey is also good at pivoting to the side of his opponents when in close and catching them with punches at an angle. Like his fists, his feet are deceptively quick; not as quick as Pacquiao’s but perhaps fast and nimble enough to trouble the 4-to-1 odds favorite.


WON'T BE COMPETITIVE

1. TALENT: Sometimes we overanalyze matchups, asking and then trying to answer myriad questions in our minds. Who’s bigger? Who has a better chin? Who’s in better condition? Who’s in a better state of mind? Who has more big-f!ght experience? Who has a better trainer? These and many more are legitimate questions. However, one question supersedes all others: Who is better? The answer is obvious in the case of Pacquiao vs. Clottey. The Filipino has evolved into a near-perfect f!ghting machine – skilled, fast, powerful, resilient, experienced, well-prepared, you name it. Clottey is very good, nothing more. This f!ght will not be close.

2. TRAINERS: The difference here couldn’t be more stark. Pacquiao works with the leading trainer in the world , Freddie Roach, with whom he has developed a zen-like rapport. Roach sculpted a very good, but raw slab of Filipino marble into a work of art. Clottey is being trained by Pacquiao’s former cut man, Lenny De Jesus, who also has some training experience. Godwin Kotay normally works with Clottey but couldn’t get a visa to enter the U.S., reportedly leaving Clottey very upset. Roach and De Jesus won’t be f!ghting but guidance in preparation and in the corner during the f!ght can be the difference between success and failure.

3. SPEED: Pacquiao’s opponents seem to have the same reaction after they f!ght him: “Man, this guy is fast.” His blazing-quick punches also come from all sorts of crazy angles, which makes him all the more baffling. And his foot speed might be more impressive than his hand speed. Pacquiao darts in, punches and darts out before his opponents have a chance to react. Clottey said he’ll be able to hit Pacquiao enough to slow him down – as he did against quick-handed Zab Judah -- but I don’t think he can do it this time. Pacquiao’s ability to land fast, hard punches and avoid Clottey’s counters because of his mobility will be the key to the f!ght.

4. WORK RATE: One criticism of Clottey is that he doesn’t throw enough punches, which he attributed to the fact he’s a welterweight and not a smaller f!ghter. Welterweights, he said, must focus more on quality than quantity when punching. That isn’t going to cut it on March 13. Even if Clottey frustrates Pacquiao to some degree with his defensive skills and lands some counters, he will get outworked and lose a one-sided decision or get stopped late anyway. Clottey would have to change his approach to boxing to match Pacquiao’s pace, which isn’t going to happen. Clottey’s only chance to win is to hurt Pacquiao and then take him out. That isn’t going to happen, either.

5. POWER: We’re told that Clottey is the bigger and stronger man, which might be true. Still, Pacquiao is the big puncher in this matchup. You saw what happened when he nailed Miguel Cotto for the first time; Cotto retreated the rest of the f!ght. Clottey has a better chin than Cotto, meaning he might be able to withstand a good shot or two. However, he will be able to take only so many before he breaks down and Pacquiao finishes the job. One of two things will happen after Clottey feels Pacquiao’s power: He will try to f!ght back and get knocked out in the middle to late-middle rounds or he will follow Cotto’s lead and go into survival mode. Either way, Clottey loses.

 8 years ago '06        #68
kevkhalee 1 heat pts
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everyday i changed my mind on this one.
CLottey might be Pac best opposition ever.
Manuel is nice, but he aint hitting like a welterwight.
Clottey comin is f!ght-night at 150 lbs is scary.

I think Pac is making a mistake by not making Clottey do a catch weight.


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 8 years ago '06        #69
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 8 years ago '06        #71
StudiosConnect' 3 heat pts
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Clottey is +500 right now good lord...
 8 years ago '04        #72
CentsCuZ 19 heat pts19
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 StudiosConnect' said:
Clottey is +500 right now good lord...
Yeah, and it'll probably go higher. Fact of the matter is, this match-up is ridiculous. Pac just beat a person who beat Clottey, so now he f!ghts Clottey? Makes no sense.

The bettors recognize that it is going to take a miracle for Clottey to do much more than compete in this f!ght.
 8 years ago '04        #73
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Streaming are we fishscale? Or are u ordering?
 8 years ago '06        #74
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Pacquiao-Clottey Weigh-In: Live Stream Information


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Top Rank.com will provide a full coverage on a live stream broadcast of the Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey weigh-in at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, on Friday, March 12. The live broadcast will begin 6 pm eastern/3 pm pacific on Top Rank's new, revamped website. Michael Buffer will be the host.

Todd duBoef, president of Top Rank, made the announcement today.

Pacquiao vs. Clottey 'The Event' is promoted by Top Rank, in a.ssociation with MP Promotions, Tecate and will be available live on HBO Pay Per View on Saturday, March 13.
 8 years ago '09        #75
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does anybody see Clottey giving Pac problems in the ring?
 8 years ago '06        #76
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 CentsCuZ said:
Yeah, and it'll probably go higher. Fact of the matter is, this match-up is ridiculous. Pac just beat a person who beat Clottey, so now he f!ghts Clottey? Makes no sense.

The bettors recognize that it is going to take a miracle for Clottey to do much more than compete in this f!ght.
PACMAN beat cotto who beat clottey in a hometown robberry

Clottey did more against the man who demolished cotto career margaritto

Pacman f!ghts a battered down cotto vs f!ghting mosley the guy who beat margaritto

Pacman claims to be pound for pound king and welterweight king but wins on 145 catch weight vs welter weight limit of 147 pounds

DEAR GOD SEND PACGWIRE TO A KO LOSS

LET'S CLEAN UP THE SPORT

CLOTTEY FTW!!!! :dancingcool::dancingcool::dancingcool:
 8 years ago '04        #78
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People keep saying that Clottey deserved the W against Cotto. That argument lacks logic. Clottey chose to play it safe and take the second half of that f!ght off. He deserved to lose. Furthermore, he failed to show that he could actually beat Cotto over 12 rounds, so why are people a.ssuming that he could/can? If anything, it should be a.ssumed that he can't because he didn't.
 8 years ago '04        #79
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Clottey is a long shot for the win but it is possible.....Manny is not superman...he's a lil asian boxer with a goofy a.ss boxing stance that is super fast not off the charts fast but Elite boxer fast......it's not that he has all this power it's that he's so fast dudes get hit a billion times he takes all the energy a f!ghter has just by focusing on him.....pacquiao to me is already great! for what he has done, but good f!ghters don't always last someone has to knock him off clottey has a small chance......but let's be honest he was cherry picked. Put Mosley or floyd in front of manny he won't be as good as we think.




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