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 8 years ago '05        #81
Sizzler01 8 heat pts
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 Kjizzle03 said:
good point...Just wondering what the problem is if he already agreed to take the blood test
the issue is with the timing of the tests... Mayweather camp are some clever businessmen they are playing chess, can't blame them for that
 8 years ago '06        #82
Kjizzle03 37 heat pts37
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 Sizzler01 said:
what makes that doctor better this this doctor?

New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
“I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”
I don't know how these test are given but, I've given a n*gga some p!ss before to pass a test...you can't do that with blood




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 8 years ago '04        #83
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its obvious Mayweather doesn't wanna lose
 8 years ago '05        #84
Sizzler01 8 heat pts
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 Main Event said:
So why not just take the test that Floyd is requesting and prove all of us wrong
Why not just go with the rules set forth by the commission, the burden of proof is on the accuser
 8 years ago '06        #85
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 omglolwtfbbq said:
Mayweather is allowed to ask, so he is. Pacquaio is allowed to say no, so he is, at least at this point. I hope it all works out because I'd love to see the f!ght, but I don't fault either side here.

Floyd is saying why not just take the test, both of us will have the same tests, are you on something, etc; Manny is saying I don't want my blood drawn during training camp, it makes him feel weak/superstitions/whatever.

Aside from the "Manny must be on something then" and "Floyd is trying to get out the f!ght" arguments, I think it's just two sides trying to get their way.
yeah but I'm not understanding how this is "Floyd tryin to get out of the f!ght" had PAc said yeah then what




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 8 years ago '04        #86
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 Stupendamatic said:
and who has outright accused manny of using steroids, can I get a link of the accusations?
Kermit Cintron accused him here's a link.


Here's Paulie Malignaggi's first take on it.


The second time they asked Paulie about it was on a radio station he was more vocal about it this time.


Here's the Radio Interview w/ Paulie


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 8 years ago '08        #87
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 Sizzler01 said:
Why not just go with the rules set forth by the commission, the burden of proof is on the accuser
Because obviously if hes been roiding before those tests didnt work

Why not eliminate all doubt and just do the Olympic tests
 8 years ago '06        #88
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 Sizzler01 said:
the issue is with the timing of the tests... Mayweather camp are some clever businessmen they are playing chess, can't blame them for that
timing shouldn't matter if you are clean




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 8 years ago '04        #89
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 Main Event said:
Cmon man your gonna walk away from 40-50 million dollars the biggest payday of your life because your scared of giving blood?? I mean really though how suspect does that sound.....




s**t give me 40-50 million ill f!ght mayweather tomorrow at Metrocenter


SERIOUSLY how the hell.... You not do the biggest f!ght in the world over a drug test if you ARE NOT doing drugs.... over a needle?? C'mon man...... Pacqauio is a bytchass ni99a.... he HAS 2 be doing drugs... seriously WHAT would YOU be afraid of for 50 million dollars?
 8 years ago '05        #90
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all someone has to do is explain what kind of drug would he take while hes in training camp that will help him f!ght night that won't show up immediately after the f!ght when they take his blood
 8 years ago '05        #91
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once this is cleared up what will Floyd ask for next Olympic head gear? Olympic scoring?
 8 years ago '07        #92
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 Kjizzle03 said:
yeah but I'm not understanding how this is "Floyd tryin to get out of the f!ght" had PAc said yeah then what
By that last part, I meant that I don't think Manny is trying to hide something and I don't think Floyd is trying to get out of f!ght (these two arguments seem to be the two immediate reactions to the extra testing issue). I just think it's two sides (trainers, promoters, etc) being business men playing games in negotiations to see who will give in first.

I have no problem with the Olympic style testing, if it was put in place by the Nevada Boxing Commission. I don't think putting new procedures in place is something that should happen in any individual f!ght. That's the kind of thing that should be handled by the governing body in charge.
 8 years ago '07        #93
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 Sizzler01 said:
once this is cleared up what will Floyd ask for next Olympic head gear? Olympic scoring?
hah. I hope this gets worked out and it end up being the only major snag that gets in the way. f**k it, they can train together if they have to, make sure everything is clean. I just wanna see the f!ght happen.
 8 years ago '04        #94
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 Main Event said:
But you just said no one else accused him


Obviously those 2 cant physically prove it but Floyd Sr is not the only one that feels something shady is going on with Manny
they jumped on the bandwagon after Floyd Sr. made his statement though. They are nothing but followers who want to be heard in the media. Paulie Malignaggi more than Cintron. Malignaggi is a bum who is just looking for the spot light
 8 years ago '05        #95
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WTF this is bulls**t, i hope theyre just hyping it up :disdain2:
 8 years ago '08        #96
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 NoLedge18720 said:
they jumped on the bandwagon after Floyd Sr. made his statement though. They are nothing but followers who want to be heard in the media. Paulie Malignaggi more than Cintron. Malignaggi is a bum who is just looking for the spot light
Malignaggi is a bum ill give you that....Im just sayin Sr wasnt the only one....But f!ght will go on and the f!ght party at my crib is still on :dancingcool:
 8 years ago '05        #97
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 NoLedge18720 said:
because its not like they arent testing and its not like Manny wouldnt get tested right after the f!ght so if he took s**t it would still be in his system. Its the fact that he knows Manny hates getting his blood taken because it makes him feel weaker and he is trying to pray on Mannys fear of giving blood by asking for this type of testing.
No it's if you are taking Steroids you can cycle off come f!ght time and test clean in a post f!ght test. If there is random testing at any point in time like with the Olympic style testing, you can't cycle off in time for the test because it is random. If you are worried about being weaker from the test the drink some orange juice and eat a damn cookie just like when you donate blood and go on your merry way. You don't have to give that large of a sample for them to test you!!!
 8 years ago '06        #98
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 A-N-D-1 said:
No it's if you are taking Steroids you can cycle off come f!ght time and test clean in a post f!ght test. If there is random testing at any point in time like with the Olympic style testing, you can't cycle off in time for the test because it is random. If you are worried about being weaker from the test the drink some orange juice and eat a damn cookie just like when you donate blood and go on your merry way. You don't have to give that large of a sample for them to test you!!!
squeeze that stress ball




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 8 years ago '06        #99
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of course it is....

if manny can't do his drugs he don't wanna f!ght.....
 8 years ago '05        #100
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Floyd Mayweather Sr's opinion of Manny holds no weight. He has for a while talked s**t about Roach and said he was the better trainer, which he is not. So of course he'd take shots at Roach's best f!ghter. I guarantee Floyd has never made any other f!ghter submit to tests like this. I don't think it's the fact that Manny won't do, it's the principle. Everything has to be Floyd's way. Floyd knows Manny doesn't like giving blood and he's superstitious about it so what does Floyd do? Try to push the issue, because that's Floyd. Floyd actually has a REAL opponent in front of him and he's throwing in bulls**t stipulations he never has before. BTW RA The Rugged Man sonned the s**t out of Floyd.
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