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 8 years ago '04        #201
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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The Angels have offered SP Joe Saunders, SS Erick Aybar and CF Peter Bourjos to the Blue Jays for ace Roy Halladay, according to the Toronto Sun.
The offer could put the Angels in the driver's seat for Toronto's ace; they have been the most aggressive in negotiations and possess the requisite ammunition to get a deal done. Saunders, 28, was 16-7 with a 4.60 earned run average in 31 starts in 2009. Aybar, who will turn 26 next month, hit .312 with five homers and 58 RBIs in 137 games. Bourjos, 22, is a highly-regarded speedster. Saunders and Aybar are both three years away from free agency. The story notes that the Blue Jays would likely trade recently-signed shortstop Alex Gonzalez if they acquired Aybar.
They ask for the moon from the RedSox/Yankees but if Toronto ever takes that package for Halladay, that newly hired GM should be fired. Saunders would get absolutely slaughtered in the AL Beast, Aybar nothing to write home about and that other dude projects as a CF'er where they have the great Vernon Wells locked up till 2020 or some s**t.
 8 years ago '06        #202
Manny05 1 heat pts
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 stunna2004 said:
I'm mad as f**k the Yankees didn't offer him that. If Ben Sheets wants 12 Mill guarunteed and he didnt even play last year, Harden was definately worth it.
Im surprise theo was not on harden. Hes a K machine when healthy
and wtf coco crisp??? No thanks

theo aint doing s**t
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 8 years ago '07        #203
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^well, word is the rangers are tryna deal Lowell to Texas and sign Adrian Beltre. Which makes it more stupid cuz the Sox is still in the hole with 5 players (Varitek, Ortiz, V-mart, Youkilis, Beltre) with only 4 positions available (C, 1B, 3B, DH) and we know DH is ortiz so who gonna be at 3rd? Beltre. Who gonna be at first? Youkilis. So who's catching? your captain or the better catcher?
 8 years ago '07        #204
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Rays & Braves have deal in place for Soriano?

10:08pm: David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the Braves and Rays could finalize a deal for Soriano as early as tomorrow morning.
 8 years ago '07        #205
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Astros sign P Brandon Lyon for 3-years, $15 million

10:48pm: Rosenthal zsays the zAstros agreed to sign Lyon for $15MM over three years.
 8 years ago '04        #206
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Orioles acquired RHP Kevin Millwood and cash from the Rangers for RHP Chris Ray and a player to be named later.
The "cash" portion of the deal is worth $3 million and will help cover some of the $12 million salary Millwood is set to earn in 2010. It's not always easy for Baltimore to take on payroll, but they're getting a solid starter and probable staff leader. Millwood, 34, went 13-10 this past season with a 3.67 ERA and a 1.34 WHIP over 31 starts.
Damn they dealt their ace for damaged goods and salary relief and spent it on Harden. Harden's going to have to pitch 30 starts this year to justify this move.
 8 years ago '07        #207
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 stunna2004 said:
Damn they dealt their ace for damaged goods and salary relief and spent it on Harden. Harden's going to have to pitch 30 starts this year to justify this move.
WTF are they doing out there....Harden's a K machine but has he ever pitched a full season...can I get a job as GM??
 8 years ago '05        #208
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 Bkjj11 said:
^well, word is the rangers are tryna deal Lowell to Texas and sign Adrian Beltre. Which makes it more stupid cuz the Sox is still in the hole with 5 players (Varitek, Ortiz, V-mart, Youkilis, Beltre) with only 4 positions available (C, 1B, 3B, DH) and we know DH is ortiz so who gonna be at 3rd? Beltre. Who gonna be at first? Youkilis. So who's catching? your captain or the better catcher?
Tek's gonna have a reduced role this year anyway
 8 years ago '04        #209
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Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports a preliminary agreement is in place that would send 3B Mike Lowell to Texas and C Max Ramirez to Boston.
According to Rosenthal, the deal is only waiting on approval from Boston ownership. The Red Sox have agreed to eat nearly all of the $12 million remaining on Lowell's contract to acquire the 25-year-old Ramirez, who carries a .299/.398/.486 batting line in 1,800 minor league at-bats. Once the deal is finalized, the Red Sox will be free and clear to bid on free agent third baseman Adrian Beltre, who they've coveted all winter.
Good job but if they give Beltre the 5 year deal he's been asking for, they'll be dissapointed just like Seattle has been the past 5 years.
 8 years ago '05        #210
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Rangers, Red Sox Nearing Lowell Deal
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 10 at 12:34am CST]

12:34am: MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan reminds us that because of the large amount of money changing hands, Bud Selig would have to sign off on the deal as well.

THURSDAY, 12:13am: Rosenthal spoke to a source who indicated that the deal "could still blow up" because of Lowell's hip and thumb issues.

WEDNESDAY, 11:50pm: The Boston Herald reports that "it appears the deal is done."
And yeah Stunna, I'm nervous about signing Beltre at all, let alone giving him anything longterm
 8 years ago '06        #211
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I wonder who we are gonna get out of the lowell deal

beltre at 3rd
scutaro at ss
pedroia at 2nd
youk 1st
vmart at c tek is backup

not bad
we just need a LF
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EDIT:
looks like lowell is indeed going to the rangers. for max ramirez
another catcher?...
ehh..maybe we could use him in another deal. will see


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 8 years ago '04        #212
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9Million to pay Lowell to leave plus the rumored 11-13Mill per year Beltre wants. A lot of money to pay for a marginal upgrade at 3B.
 8 years ago '07        #213
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 Bkjj11 said:
^well, word is the rangers are tryna deal Lowell to Texas and sign Adrian Beltre. Which makes it more stupid cuz the Sox is still in the hole with 5 players (Varitek, Ortiz, V-mart, Youkilis, Beltre) with only 4 positions available (C, 1B, 3B, DH) and we know DH is ortiz so who gonna be at 3rd? Beltre. Who gonna be at first? Youkilis. So who's catching? your captain or the better catcher?
3b- Beltre
1b- Youk
DH- Ortiz
C- Victor
Varitek- f**k off

Varitek knows hes the backup, as he should, guys absolute garbage, I've wanted him out of Boston for a few years now, I'm so tired of him.

 BoSox84 said:
And yeah Stunna, I'm nervous about signing Beltre at all, let alone giving him anything longterm
Me too, I'd rather make a play for Cabrera, but Beltre is better than Lowell. I love Mike, but its painful to see him bat and run, its his time to go.

 stunna2004 said:
9Million to pay Lowell to leave plus the rumored 11-13Mill per year Beltre wants. A lot of money to pay for a marginal upgrade at 3B.
I'd say its more than marginal, I'm not saying Beltre is gonna save us, but he's better than Lowell. I just fear hes gonna sign some stupid money deal here, start beasting then get hurt and f**k us. Cant trust Beltre, his best season came in a contract year, so I dont know how to feel about him
 8 years ago '04        #214
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 keithbm1111 said:
3b- Beltre
1b- Youk
DH- Ortiz
C- Victor
Varitek- f**k off

Varitek knows hes the backup, as he should, guys absolute garbage, I've wanted him out of Boston for a few years now, I'm so tired of him.



Me too, I'd rather make a play for Cabrera, but Beltre is better than Lowell. I love Mike, but its painful to see him bat and run, its his time to go.



I'd say its more than marginal, I'm not saying Beltre is gonna save us, but he's better than Lowell. I just fear hes gonna sign some stupid money deal here, start beasting then get hurt and f**k us. Cant trust Beltre, his best season came in a contract year, so I dont know how to feel about him
IDK man, I'd actually consider it a downgrade for what it took to pay Lowell, and what the years/millions Beltre is about to make.

2009 Beltre - 449AB's, .265BA, 8HR's, 44RBI, .304OBP, .683OPS

2009 Lowell - 445AB's, .290BA, 17HR's, 75RBI, .337OBP, .811OPS.

Wow, after inspecting the #'s and all the factors mentioned earlier, Theo Lost.
 8 years ago '07        #215
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97 OP
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 stunna2004 said:
IDK man, I'd actually consider it a downgrade for what it took to pay Lowell, and what the years/millions Beltre is about to make.

2009 Beltre - 449AB's, .265BA, 8HR's, 44RBI, .304OBP, .683OPS

2009 Lowell - 445AB's, .290BA, 17HR's, 75RBI, .337OBP, .811OPS.

Wow, after inspecting the #'s and all the factors mentioned earlier, Theo Lost.
thats great and all, but i dont care about last years numbers concerning Lowell, because the guy is old, and beat up. Couldnt run down the line anymore, not as good a fielder as he used to be. I'm pretty confident Beltre will have better stats than Lowell this year, regardless of where both of them are playing. And I'm not agreeing with theo to get beltre, because i dont think he's anything special, I'd much rather give up prospects for Miggy
 8 years ago '04        #216
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 keithbm1111 said:
thats great and all, but i dont care about last years numbers concerning Lowell, because the guy is old, and beat up. Couldnt run down the line anymore, not as good a fielder as he used to be. I'm pretty confident Beltre will have better stats than Lowell this year, regardless of where both of them are playing. And I'm not agreeing with theo to get beltre, because i dont think he's anything special, I'd much rather give up prospects for Miggy
IDK if Miggy's available yet. He'd rake at Fenway, but the Sox definately won't budge with the prospects. Plus Beltre's coming off a career threatening injury (injured testicle) LMAO. Anything more than a 2YR deal to Beltre is suicide.
 8 years ago '05        #217
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Theo's doing the SAME s**t he did with Lugo. Fallin in love with a guy who, by all appearances, isn't gonna be s**t
 8 years ago '04        #218
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^^^ Renteria, then Lugo, and the jury's out on Scutaro.
 8 years ago '05        #219
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 stunna2004 said:
^^^ Renteria, then Lugo, and the jury's out on Scutaro.
Renteria actually made sense at the time. Dude was a gold glove shortstop and solid offensively. Just something about Fenway f**ked his glove up I never understood going after Lugo, not once.
 8 years ago '04        #220
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I knew Lugo was defensively challenged but didn't know he'd be such a liability with the bat. lol
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