"Young Hov, tell them Ordinary Joe's, Budden up...." - Jay-Z

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 9 years ago '04        #61
polorsport2345 8 heat pts
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 deLeet said:
You must have been listening to britney spears cause ALL rappers stopped f**king with throwbacks after that... Mitchell and Ness died over night in the rap.
n*gga throwbacks were dead before Jay got all corporate, I thought u were talkin bout he started a trend not ended one, nobody in the hood was rockin no button ups.. & Eminem was rockin suits before Jay did on The Eminem Show cover, does that mean Jay bit him?
 9 years ago '04        #62
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 Yung Dilla said:
man this is just like when jay used joes onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn when he said

'how the f**k you got signed how the hell u get onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn'

and n*ggas said it wasn't a diss jay stay taking shots
word, thats the epitomy of a obvious subliminal.. who the f**k else says "onnnnnnnn" really
 08-24-2009, 12:56 PM         #63
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 polorsport2345 said:
n*gga throwbacks were dead before Jay got all corporate, I thought u were talkin bout he started a trend not ended one, nobody in the hood was rockin no button ups.. & Eminem was rockin suits before Jay did on The Eminem Show cover, does that mean Jay bit him?
You crazy if you don't think jay-z k!lled jerseys and started the grown man trend in the rap world. He brought you EVISU? them $100000000 jeans

remember where he's at now.. 5000million worth, everyone trying to catch up right?


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 08-24-2009, 12:59 PM         #64
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 m-f said:
I knew as soon as I heard this line, There would be a 10 page thread on BX.. Turnin' nothing into something.
Jay is dissing Budden, if you listen at the line before that, the "stylin on you line," Joey was the first rapper to use that after the rapper on youtube got punched, therefore Hov was listening to the Joe Budden Shade45 freestyle (or at least thinking about it) when he wrote that verse, and decided to throw a subliminal at Budden.

Budden Up
Pump It Up

Jay mad because Joe Dissed his ex lover Lil Wayne, "I never been the type of n*gga that put put 20 tapes with just 4 good bar"
 08-24-2009, 12:59 PM         #65
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 Get it Right said:
Jay is dissing Budden, if you listen at the line before that, the "stylin on you line," Joey was the first rapper to use that after the rapper on youtube got punched, therefore Hov was listening to the Joe Budden Shade45 freestyle (or at least thinking about it) when he wrote that verse, and decided to throw a subliminal at Budden.

Budden Up
Pump It Up

Jay mad because Joe Dissed his ex lover Lil Wayne, "I never been the type of n*gga that put put 20 tapes with just 4 good bar"
i question your gender sometimes.
 9 years ago '08        #66
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 Gm0ney85 said:
thats not a diss...its a compliment...

tell the ordinary JOES (not joey) to Budden up (to get like budden)....


why diss if u gonna diss like this...its hardly even a subliminal..
@ hov complimenting budden.

The whole 3rd verse was basically throwing shots. You really think he's going to spit 16 bars full of s**t talking then put one positive line in there about a rapper who dissed him more than twice?
 9 years ago '07        #67
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 Yung Dilla said:
man this is just like when jay used joes onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn when he said

'how the f**k you got signed how the hell u get onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn'

and n*ggas said it wasn't a diss jay stay taking shots

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 08-24-2009, 01:00 PM         #68
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 Get it Right said:
Jay is dissing Budden, if you listen at the line before that, the "stylin on you line," Joey was the first rapper to use that after the rapper on youtube got punched, therefore Hov was listening to the Joe Budden Shade45 freestyle (or at least thinking about it) when he wrote that verse, and decided to throw a subliminal at Budden.

Budden Up
Pump It Up

Jay mad because Joe Dissed his ex lover Lil Wayne, "I never been the type of n*gga that put put 20 tapes with just 4 good bar"
i question your gender sometimes. your like a female.
 9 years ago '04        #69
polorsport2345 8 heat pts
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 deLeet said:
You crazy if you don't think jay-z k!lled jerseys and started the grown man trend in the rap world. He brought you EVISU? them $100000000 jeans

remember where he's at now.. 5000million worth, everyone trying to catch up right?
well to the rap world I guess.. cus I respect Jay as a lyricist but he's not appealing enough to set trends, he's past his prime & he's a ugly old dude that tries to act young.. not saying that I care, i'm just statin facts
 9 years ago '08        #70
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Subliminal punch in the right eye :)
 9 years ago '04        #71
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Well if it a diss and joey takes it like a diss.... This will be an explosion!!!!!!!!!
 08-24-2009, 01:05 PM         #72
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 polorsport2345 said:
well to the rap world I guess.. cus I respect Jay as a lyricist but he's not appealing enough to set trends, he's past his prime & he's a ugly old dude that tries to act young.. not saying that I care, i'm just statin facts
But i just noted that he already set trends......


Look at ron browz rapping normal... DOA

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 08-24-2009, 01:06 PM         #73
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A subliminal message is a signal or message embedded in another medium, designed to pass below the normal limits of the human mind's perception. These messages are unrecognizable by the conscious mind, but in certain situations can affect the subconscious mind and can negatively or positively influence subsequent later thoughts, behaviors, actions, attitudes, belief systems and value systems. The term subliminal means "beneath a limen" (sensory threshold). This is from the Latin words sub, meaning under, and limen, meaning threshold.
If you listen to the whole song you can tell that he is "Reminding" us that he can still go in.

Do what I’ve done without cryin//
In the environment in which I did it in without dyin my n*gga//
And rap like I rap with out LYIN, then tie em both together like I Am my n*gga//
Then write 16’s in between runnin 16 businesses//
All the while showing these young punks what the business is//
As if, Ima let you n*ggas style on me//
As if, now everybodies senile on me//
Throwbacks, I threw em back, remember those?//
Button ups, Young Hov, tell them ordinary Joes, “button up”/


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 9 years ago '08        #74
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 deLeet said:
You crazy if you don't think jay-z k!lled jerseys and started the grown man trend in the rap world. He brought you EVISU? them $100000000 jeans

remember where he's at now.. 5000million worth, everyone trying to catch up right?
I hate these guys who care about another mens money, like a f**king ho a.ss b**ch, no offense but you dudes need to stop that s**t its straight up f**got s**t. I get it you love Jay z's music but that is where it should stop, don't use his personal finances in your love affair routine, it really isn't a good look at all.


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 08-24-2009, 01:08 PM         #75
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How am I "like" a female?


I won't lie, Jay-Z ripped this, I'll give credit when credit is due, but that other joint with Drake is garbage.


The third verse is crucial.
 08-24-2009, 01:09 PM         #76
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 The N said:
I hate these guys who care about another mens money, like a f**king ho a.ss b**ch, no offense but you dudes need to stop that s**t its straight up f**got s**t. I get it you love Jay z's music but that is where it should stop, don't use his personal finances in your love affair routine, it really isn't a good look at all.
Who said I care about his money? i respect how he got it thats all.

the other guy asked what trends jay-z set and i noted them..
 08-24-2009, 01:15 PM         #77
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it's still not a diss just a good play of words
 08-24-2009, 01:17 PM         #78
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 Get it Right said:
Jay is dissing Budden, if you listen at the line before that, the "stylin on you line," Joey was the first rapper to use that after the rapper on youtube got punched, therefore Hov was listening to the Joe Budden Shade45 freestyle (or at least thinking about it) when he wrote that verse, and decided to throw a subliminal at Budden.

Budden Up
Pump It Up

Jay mad because Joe Dissed his ex lover Lil Wayne, "I never been the type of n*gga that put put 20 tapes with just 4 good bar"
He was talking about Papoose. There's another line in that freestyle saying "aside from that Hoody it ain't no 9's on you." He respects Wayne.

And when has Joe called himself Ordinary Joe? Joe Budden aka Jumpoff aka Ordinary Joe. That doesn't even sound right. I've always heard "Regular Joe" on tracks not Ordinary.
 9 years ago '04        #79
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^ true....

upon reading the lyrics... it doesn't sound like a diss...

i dont think jay's gonna diss joe....

the battle would be great, but lyrically.... could jay win??????

i mean to me... the pump it up freestyle was more of a diss than this... and budden k!lled jay.....btw... jay's verse was fire!!!!!
 08-24-2009, 01:33 PM         #80
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