Jul 6 - Worlds Older Bible Published In Full Online (Christ Never Ressurected)

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 8 years ago '06        #61
RAZAH CUTS 5844 heat pts5844
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 meepos said:
So Jesus was real, BUT he didnt walk on water and all that foolishness?? So can you please explain to me what the Bible means to you if you dismiss every act of a "god" he "did".
The bible is nothing more than tribal people's knowledge and other ancient civilizations creation stories re-worked and re-written....

there is historical evidence that Jesus existed and that he was executed by the Roman Army.....

I don't think that Jesus was a super "god-like" being but he was around and he had knowledge....he was an important part of history because he bucked the system of that day and age with his new beliefs.....he was a revolutionary....

over time stories just snowball and get bigger and bigger....his status just got elevated and elevated more and more because he died for what he believed in......
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 meepos said:
wow really? it's called a correct translation.
If you knew anything at all before attempting to correct me you'd know that their is no such thing of the Quran. you cant read it in english because things become lost in thr translation like jihad
 8 years ago '06        #63
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Umm am i the only one that notice it just said St. Mark... isnt there 3 other gospels that talk about the resurrection of jesus
 07-06-2009, 10:47 PM         #64
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 stepyourgameup said:
Why should we respect each others beliefs? I certainly don't think we should have to. Should we respect each other, yes. But each others beliefs...

Should we respect the KKK's belief that whites are better than blacks (and all other races)? Or should we question it and challenge it? And before anyone wants to accuse me of using a false analogy, I'd like to point out that slavery was justified BY THE BIBLE. They used passages such as Leviticus 25:44-46 justify slavery. Where would we be today if we all "respected their beliefs"?
Excellent point.
 07-07-2009, 12:55 AM         #65
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Jesus is f*g**t.... lulz
 07-07-2009, 12:58 AM         #66
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 CuZzA said:
Oh dear.

Even though Jesus' existance was historical fact?

Nice one.
oh please do tell how Jesus' existence is a historical fact?
 8 years ago '05        #67
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 Setta said:
oh please do tell how Jesus' existence is a historical fact?
You fail.
 07-07-2009, 01:55 AM         #68
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damn didnt realize this s**t was 5 pages long. Christianity basically in its entirety is plagiarized from Persian Theology. If your not familiar read up on Mithraism s**t blew me away. There are so many blatant similarities to the story of Mithra its ridiculous and Mithraiism existed 2000 years before Christianity. Mithra was born of a Virgin through - Immaculate Conception - He was born of Anahita, an immaculate virgin mother. Mithra was born in a stable - We celebrate his birth on December 25th -.Mithra was visited by wise men bearing gifts. Mithra was also the god of Darius, conqueror of Babylon, He was called - - Messiah - - or Christos by Jews during their Captivity.Mithra celebrated a last supper with his disciples before his death.Mithra died to atone for the sins of Man.Mithra was resurrected on a Sunday. Mithra ascended into Heaven to rejoin his Father.Mithra followers drink wine and eat bread, which represent his blood and flesh.Mithra followers were baptized. Sound familiar there is a bunch more these are just some of the completely obvious ones. The great Christian council was created by Roman Empire Constantine who before his "conversion" worshiped who Mithra. And if you no Paul (who is PROVEN insane suffering from a Temporal Lobe Epileptic Seizure) one of the major people to introduce Christianity transformed a minor sect of judaism(ISSAH's Movement) by plagiarizing Mithraism replacing Mithra for ISSAH then calling him Jesus a greek word meaning Angel. I could keep going on here but Im tired of typing and doubt everyone will read every word of this anyway. So I leave you saying this Religion is bulls**t no matter what you believe be it Christianity, Islamic, Judaism etc. you have been living a lie and I dont care who thinks Im a d**k or not I cannot see how people believe this s**t. And no Im not saying there is no higher power ( even tho im not convinced myself ) I dont want people to believe there isnt. But the second you put a belief system behind it's not believing in a high power but believing in a Man's creation of a higher power.
 8 years ago '06        #69
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 Soulja1896 said:
Excellent point.
It's excellent even though I explained it?

Read a post or two.
 8 years ago '06        #70
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 Setta said:
oh please do tell how Jesus' existence is a historical fact?
 8 years ago '06        #71
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 stepyourgameup said:
So who gets to decide what parts of the bible to believe and what parts not to? Who gets to decide what qualifies as a christian extremist as opposed to a twice a year christian? Who gets to decide whether or not the beliefs of the KKK are extreme?

See where I'm going with this?
Who gets to decide what parts of the Bible to believe in?:

As an athiest, you would find this stupid, but as a believer you do not have the right or the authority to pick and choose what you want to believe. God never left that option open to believers.

The Bible isn't one monolithic text. It is made up of a lot of different books, written by many different people. It's important to keep in mind the genre of each verse when considering the point of passage. Some parts are poetry, some are history, some are meditation etc.
If there are two verses with two different genres, they must be interpreted as such.

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Who gets to decide what qualifies as a Christian extremist as opposed to a twice-a-year Christian?:

Extremist religious groups are found in many religions. Some religious organizations have historically used tactics to encourage fear-based obedience to doctrines, such as fear-mongering tactics, immediate and intense unscientifically-based opposition to the physical realities of the universe, and intentional obfuscation to enforce obedience to religion.

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Who gets to decide whether or not the beliefs of the KKK are extreme?:

Both Communism and Fascism were described by some in the postwar "western democracies" as "extremist" movements, as were (arguably "fascist") groups such as the KKK. How you can argue that the beliefs of the KKK weren't/aren't extreme are beyond me.


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 07-07-2009, 06:55 AM         #72
r a n c i d  OP
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You people are missing the point. He's not even trying to argue Jesus was this or that.

He's saying Jesus of the bible is more than likely to have existed. Based on actual historic evidence. It's a near fact.

That doesn't mean you're conceding anything. He was just an advanced David Blane.
 8 years ago '06        #73
CuZzA 17 heat pts17
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 r a n c i d said:
You people are missing the point. He's not even trying to argue Jesus was this or that.

He's saying Jesus of the bible is more than likely to have existed. Based on actual historic evidence. It's a near fact.
Exactly what I was trying to argue.

I then ended up defending my beliefs, which I didn't come in here to do.
 07-07-2009, 10:53 PM         #74
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some of you are lost and need to read a book or 2... try these

The 7 Story Tower



The Hero With A Thousand Faces

 07-08-2009, 10:52 AM         #75
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NOT 1 PERSON ON HERE IS A RELIGION MAJOR, OR STUDIES RELIGION ON A DAILY BASIS... EDUCATED FOOLS.
 07-08-2009, 11:46 AM         #76
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I stuck my long black c*ck in Jesus Christ's butthole... That mothaf**ker had his kankles over his head and I was just reaming that nasty thang... I can't believe how sparkly clean my d**k was after I took it out though, must've been Jesus' holiness....
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 AlexG1989 said:
I stuck my long black c*ck in Jesus Christ's butthole... That mothaf**ker had his kankles over his head and I was just reaming that nasty thang... I can't believe how sparkly clean my d**k was after I took it out though, must've been Jesus' holiness....
is what you said supposed to make some1 mad

your no better than christian and muslim extremists at this point

but keep on doing what your doing and shutting down dialogue by being immature it must make you feel better about yourself
 07-08-2009, 12:14 PM         #78
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^^^ f**k off
 8 years ago '09        #79
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you dont believe the bible but you believe this one because it says christ didnt ressurect?
 07-08-2009, 12:32 PM         #80
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^^^ Missed the point completely...
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