Lil Wayne and Drake have some explaining to do?

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 9 years ago '05        #61
SeanP3688 1 heat pts
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thought this since i first started listenin to Drake..listen to..

'Best I Ever Had' a few times and u'll see...

wayne=drake,drake=wayne...style wise

Drake makes quality music tho i think, but i hope i dont get tired of him cuz everybody is on his d**k..
 9 years ago '04        #62
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 Poloboy69 said:
This is some weird s**t that ive noticed. Drake tells the story of meeting lil wayne on November 18th. im not sure if its 2008 or 2009.
 9 years ago '07        #63
Cartel-Clipz 28 heat pts28
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 9 years ago '04        #64
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 9 years ago '08        #65
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wtf is this n*gga talking about stunt like me came out last year, not 07, and wayne wasnt f**king with autotune back in 07
 9 years ago '07        #66
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 Poloboy69 said:
No them n*ggaz lying for real lol. You cant tell me songs like I want this for ever, I want this forever and stunt hard was made before carter 3. he said the night they met they made those 3 songs. Thats just like he said he didnt find his sound til he started singing. He song on one song in 2007. that was brand new. he posted it on his myspace blog dec 11,2007. Brand new was a song that was going to be shopped around. Im only a rapper but yes i can sing. I have hits for R&b singers holla at me. that proves right there that they are lying. he straight up singing on all them songs he did wit wayne. that came out after carter 3. there is no way in life they met in 2007 when he was still acting on degrassi. My research was correct. he quit acting right before 2008 season. then he met wayne. yall motherf**kers tryin to play me. now the age question is clear. He was 21 when he met wayne then made 22 last october. he will make 23 this october.
i get what you are sayin.but im lost as far as what youre tryin to get at.

we already know drake is 22..
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 9 years ago '07        #67
killahkazi 15 heat pts15
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 9 years ago '05        #68
OG T Gutta N|M 9 heat pts
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 magatsu said:
Anyone who's listened to Lil Wayne since the start of his career (as in before the Hot Boys album even dropped) knows that n*gga isn't behind all of that music. n*gga style/content/lyricism has changed too many times to be explained any other way. I don't want to hear s**t about drugs/syrup whatever.

I mean when this n*gga first started claiming he was "the best rapper alive" during the carter era he still wouldn't freestyle on the spot or battle anyone. Why you think he always dodging beefs or dances around the questions.

I like Wayne, but he's not that great of a rapper and never has been. n*gga was just decent. But he's made some good albums and some good tracks for years. It just sucks that its been at a point for a long time that you can't even tell if what he's spitting is him or someone else.

Thats why I always go back to old Wayne at the end of the day.......





Only time that n*gga seemed genuine to me. Its just sucks that the music game is becoming more and more manufactured. I mean they always had ghost writers/singers for decades but it wasn't as prevalent and it was mainly with pop acts. In the past couple years its gotten to a point where you can listen to a track and a couple seconds in you can tell who wrote it. I like my music real and from the heart. Thats usually why artists first/underground albums are the best, because it was before they got into the industry and had the record company forcing these things on them in desperation for another hit. Its the lyrics and things they've been going through from the whole life up until that point.

I mean you gotta pay the bills but I wouldn't even want to be a ghostwriter. Having someone else sing and perform some s**t that came from your heart/experiences....f**k that.

But at least these artists are finally getting to shine on their own....Drake/Ne-yo/Dream/Keri Hilson etc.

Hip-hop/rap is supposed to be so dependent on n*ggaz being "real" but so much of it has become fake since its boom in the mid to late 90's that your average fan lets the fake bulls**t pass and hates the real s**t when it comes out. You don't have to like the Charles Hamiltons/Asher Roths/Drakes etc. be it their style/content or whatever but at least when I sit down and give these guys music a listen it feels genuine.

I'd much rather listen to someone be themselves on an album and find certain things I can relate to, than listen to someone try to manufacture an image and create an album full of songs they think I will relate to.

Only n*ggaz that should have ghostwriters in the hip-hop/rap scene are acts like Dre and Diddy. n*ggaz that everyone knows don't write most of their s**t. At least they honest about it. If you want to be one of those type of acts then just come out and admit to it.

Listening to a white college kid my age rap about partying, having fun, and how he got into hip-hop.......


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Listening to a 32 year old college graduate with a degree in accounting rap about a street life and ignorant s**t he lived vicariously through his brother/friends.


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Not to say artists like Plies don't have their place in the music industry, or make decent songs, but they need to be put in a separate category where the fans and young n*ggaz in the street who live and die by what they hear on these albums understand its fabricated bulls**t for strictly making money and entertainment purposes. Not "real" genuine music from the heart.

Young rich n*gga growing up wealthy in Canada talking about being young rich, his relationships, and working his a.ss off to get where he's at.......


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33 year old man who had to work as a correctional officer to pay the bills adopting the persona of a drug dealer he never met talking about diamonds and cars he leases and fronting like hes f**king bad b***hes when he can't take care of his kids and impregnated an escort.


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When you make music with the intention of creating a hit single and/or successful album people will buy you will rarely reach more than moderate success at best.

When you make music for the sake of making music because you love it and its your passion and how you exercise your demons/thoughts, your going to amass a dedicated fan base that will take you to the highest heights of success.

Do it for the love and the passion, never for the wealth and fame. That applies across the board in anything you do in life.
Great speech, but very cliche in terms of reality. I don't even disagree with you, but if you're going to criticize a person, at least go at them with a non-biased perspective.

Who are you to make so many a.ssumptions? I've been listening to CM back before Lil Wayne was even recognized as even of the top tier of CM. Not even defending him, but a person decides to "step up" or change to a more complex perceived style(Not from my perspective though) of rapping(something that is encouraged in hiphop) and when they do, they are discredited for it? What kind of BS is that. Thats the basic crabs in a barrel mentality(Everyone wants to get out, but when one does, everyone who supported it, brings him down).

Then, here comes the idea of originality(which really isn't) of labeling Drake, W/E Roth, etc when they simply have adopted a content of rapping that isn't the normal in terms of the urban culture. In simple words: "Hiphop heads" think *insert artist who doesn't represent the typical urban culture* are original for their content, when those artist are simply mirroring their life" In essence, that is the same thing any black artist does: Plies, Jeezy, Wayne, etc.

Would you make dumb topics about Roth not f**king white chicks in college, drinking, or w/e in order to discredit what he has done in life? I doubt it, people seem to try to discredit a person they know nothing about, a k!ller,drug dealer, w/e has no common face, or persona.

If rap was so about the passion, then why does Gucci Mane get hated on so much? I believe Gucci speaks from a real a.ss perspective of his life, whether it's himself he is speaking on, or what he has seen and got out of life. Should it really even matter his content? Just because Gucci music revolves around diamonds, Trap Talk, b***hes, etc doesn't mean his content should be put over lets say Nas choice of social content? I mean of course, if music was really about passion.

If music was about passion, then Wayne should have BEEN celebrated as an artist, rather now. Wait, music is about the passion, then Gucci shouldn't be hated on...wait, no, thats because "hiphop heads"(who really aren't hiphop heads, simply people who can't relate to the reality of urban culture, nor deal with an overdose of reality, so they look to social conscious topics as a way of deciding what is good and bad music, then think they know more about hiphop because they have slighly better comprehension skills of the average music listening, and can add factors into what "real hiphop" is with bulls**t like lyricism, flow, etc, as if a an abstract expression can be subjected to simple a.ss criteria such as big words, pronounciation, complexity, when in reality, it's a way of once again devaluing a culture which they feel seperated from, theirs or anothers)

I've often too struggled with Plies. College graduate, quite intelligent, yet talks about being a goon. Without a rant, it's hard to imagine with all those features that would not go with the typical idea of what a goon is, but then again, is every street life living thug stupid, I'll tell you based on what I've seen...no. And even if so, if rap is about passion like you suggest, then shouldn't you be celebrating Plies for actually reaching tons of people with his music that does reflect his community feelings? Whether he has lived it or not, if rap is about passion, then he's done a good job.

Rap/Hip-hop(or any craft for that matter) isn't about passion, or anything. The whole point of this? Quit labeling s**t, you set parameters for what is a great artist, what is good music, and what is bad music, when in reality, doing that, is what is devaluing hiphop, the criticism(from people who can't even construct a proper critique, which is nearly everyone, since everyone wants to be a critic). How to do set an idea of the best rapper, have standards, and then promote creativity and try to measure s**t such as passion, skill, etc? Let s**t be.
 9 years ago '04        #69
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Drake is a fraud. Funk Flex exposed the kid. :sleep2:
 9 years ago '07        #70
CheezyDoDo 15 heat pts15
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I beg of you
until then please shut the f**k up
he never wrote for wayne and never has
 9 years ago '07        #71
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well if he did it wouldnt be nothing to brag about

waynes trash

drakes overhyped
 9 years ago '05        #72
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I just called Drake and asked him. He said he does. Happy now?
 9 years ago '07        #73
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there is no proof..and if there was,you damn sure wouldnt have to ask for it.these haters would have it posted everywhere & the thread exposin it would go quadruple platinum with most responses sayin "i knew it all along", "no wonder waynes trash", "so thas why wayne been singin like a b***h",

oh and lets not forget "if drakes been writin waynes s**t then that makes drake TWICE as wack."
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 9 years ago '06        #74
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umm he did write waynes vma performance...drake even says it in one of his songs cant remeber which one...i think congradulations.......Close thread
 05-29-2009, 09:31 PM         #75
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 9 years ago '07        #77
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Why the f**k does it matter?
 9 years ago '07        #78
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 snaxxx said:
umm he did write waynes vma performance...drake even says it in one of his songs cant remeber which one...i think congradulations.......Close thread
that was wayne performin drakes verse from "money to blow"

performin somebody elses verse from a song thas out and havin s**t ghostwritten to pass it off as yours arent the same..
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 blackjewelz said:
that was wayne performin drakes verse from "money to blow"

performin somebody elses verse from a song thas out and havin s**t ghostwritten to pass it off as yours arent the same..
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i guess he aint writing his own performances then...that verse was the best part of his performance...so that aint saying much bout wayne then
 05-29-2009, 09:39 PM         #80
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