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 9 years ago '06        #21
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 Nyuzi said:
ghost writing for someone whos been rapping on CMR since 12?

really?
gillie the kid was ghostwriting for wayne on the carter.

wayne says he spits off the top of the dome and never writes anything down, but when they used to get him in the freestyle booth on BET he would spit bars off his upcoming albums. if you spit off the dome you shouldn't have to recycle your lyrics.

dont get me wrong, im a wayne fan and drake fan but drake ghostwriting for wayne isn't that far fetched.
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 Fresh Whyte said:
....What November 18th Track Is You Talking About? The November 18th Track Has Nothing To Do With Meeting Lil Wayne He Only Speaks On His Time In Houston On That Track.

You Been A Fan For 8 Months? You Just Got On The Bandwagon....You Reaching Homie.

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He's going off an interview Drake did with some site right after So Far Gone dropped...in which he said the song was about meeting Wayne in Houston and his time there...I could find a link if you or I cared that much...but I don't...
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 ICanDoIt said:
He's going off an interview Drake did with some site right after So Far Gone dropped...in which he said the song was about meeting Wayne in Houston and his time there...I could find a link if you or I cared that much...but I don't...
....You Aint Gotta Find It Cause The Main Topic Is Him Making A Typo For Some. It Would Been Cool To Discuss This More But I Can See The Thread Is Getting Off-Topic
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Dude mixed up 2007 with 2009 and everyone wants to attack him.......beside the year mix up, he makes a valid point
 05-25-2009, 01:40 AM         #26
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 Comic Book Guy said:
gillie the kid was ghostwriting for wayne on the carter.

wayne says he spits off the top of the dome and never writes anything down, but when they used to get him in the freestyle booth on BET he would spit bars off his upcoming albums. if you spit off the dome you shouldn't have to recycle your lyrics.

dont get me wrong, im a wayne fan and drake fan but drake ghostwriting for wayne isn't that far fetched.
only prolly 8 out of every rapper who's freestyled in Tha Basement's booth actually freestyled...all of em did old s**t...only ones I can remember are Cam and Serius Jones...and I might be wrong bout Cam
 05-25-2009, 02:05 AM         #27
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drake is the ghostwriter for little wayen
 05-25-2009, 03:58 AM         #28
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Anyone who's listened to Lil Wayne since the start of his career (as in before the Hot Boys album even dropped) knows that n*gga isn't behind all of that music. n*gga style/content/lyricism has changed too many times to be explained any other way. I don't want to hear s**t about drugs/syrup whatever.

I mean when this n*gga first started claiming he was "the best rapper alive" during the carter era he still wouldn't freestyle on the spot or battle anyone. Why you think he always dodging beefs or dances around the questions.

I like Wayne, but he's not that great of a rapper and never has been. n*gga was just decent. But he's made some good albums and some good tracks for years. It just sucks that its been at a point for a long time that you can't even tell if what he's spitting is him or someone else.

Thats why I always go back to old Wayne at the end of the day.......





Only time that n*gga seemed genuine to me. Its just sucks that the music game is becoming more and more manufactured. I mean they always had ghost writers/singers for decades but it wasn't as prevalent and it was mainly with pop acts. In the past couple years its gotten to a point where you can listen to a track and a couple seconds in you can tell who wrote it. I like my music real and from the heart. Thats usually why artists first/underground albums are the best, because it was before they got into the industry and had the record company forcing these things on them in desperation for another hit. Its the lyrics and things they've been going through from the whole life up until that point.

I mean you gotta pay the bills but I wouldn't even want to be a ghostwriter. Having someone else sing and perform some s**t that came from your heart/experiences....f**k that.

But at least these artists are finally getting to shine on their own....Drake/Ne-yo/Dream/Keri Hilson etc.

Hip-hop/rap is supposed to be so dependent on n*ggaz being "real" but so much of it has become fake since its boom in the mid to late 90's that your average fan lets the fake bulls**t pass and hates the real s**t when it comes out. You don't have to like the Charles Hamiltons/Asher Roths/Drakes etc. be it their style/content or whatever but at least when I sit down and give these guys music a listen it feels genuine.

I'd much rather listen to someone be themselves on an album and find certain things I can relate to, than listen to someone try to manufacture an image and create an album full of songs they think I will relate to.

Only n*ggaz that should have ghostwriters in the hip-hop/rap scene are acts like Dre and Diddy. n*ggaz that everyone knows don't write most of their s**t. At least they honest about it. If you want to be one of those type of acts then just come out and admit to it.

Listening to a white college kid my age rap about partying, having fun, and how he got into hip-hop.......


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Listening to a 32 year old college graduate with a degree in accounting rap about a street life and ignorant s**t he lived vicariously through his brother/friends.


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Not to say artists like Plies don't have their place in the music industry, or make decent songs, but they need to be put in a separate category where the fans and young n*ggaz in the street who live and die by what they hear on these albums understand its fabricated bulls**t for strictly making money and entertainment purposes. Not "real" genuine music from the heart.

Young rich n*gga growing up wealthy in Canada talking about being young rich, his relationships, and working his a.ss off to get where he's at.......


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33 year old man who had to work as a correctional officer to pay the bills adopting the persona of a drug dealer he never met talking about diamonds and cars he leases and fronting like hes f**king bad b***hes when he can't take care of his kids and impregnated an escort.


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When you make music with the intention of creating a hit single and/or successful album people will buy you will rarely reach more than moderate success at best.

When you make music for the sake of making music because you love it and its your passion and how you exercise your demons/thoughts, your going to amass a dedicated fan base that will take you to the highest heights of success.

Do it for the love and the passion, never for the wealth and fame. That applies across the board in anything you do in life.
 9 years ago '07        #29
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 503town_7 said:
drake is the ghostwriter for little wayen
this is what your doing :metallicblue:

this is what you should be doing
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 9 years ago '07        #30
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 poloboy69 said:
im a big fan of drake and i like to do my research on the artist i listen too. Ive been listening to drake for about a 8 months. Ive pretty much heard all the material that was released. This is some weird s**t that ive noticed. Drake tells the story of meeting lil wayne on november 18th. Im not sure if its 2008 or 2009. Lil wayne performed drakes verse of money to blow on september 25, 2008 at the mtv awards. Drake explains the story of how they met and thats how the november 18th song came along. You would think he meant 2008. On comeback season drake was rapping on lil wayne and florida's man of the year. On the song you would think drake and wayne were doing music togehter cuz he was calling out his name and saying young money and all types of stuff. I noticed it when i heard that song i was like hmm it came out in 2007. What is the likely hood of u doing a freestyle to somebody elses track, then meeting them a year later and being down with the young money fam. Lastly i looked on dedication 3 and i recalled the stunting is a habit freestyle and drakes claims im 21 who do i compete with. Also in im going in and drake is saying 21 years and i aint never met a good cop. If u pay attention drake was 21 in 2007. He is 22 now and makes 23 in october 2009. This could be some crazy s**t cuz this would kinda prove drake has been ghost writing for wayne. What is the likely hood of an artist to be hanging around in the background for 2 years. Now if im wrong and they met in 2007 then this proves nothing but damn if u think about it, if drake was down with wayne before carter 3 then its a good chance he has been doing more then just being down with wayne. He's prolly ghost written alot of songs for wayne, and helping out where ever he can. Not to mention the chris brown take you down freestyle that was a reference song for wayne. Thats pretty much saying im ghost writing for u. Im not saying drake writes for wayne, but he prolly plays a good part in the process. Im guessing he helped out on carter 3. But if he wasnt on before carter 3 then they have some explaining to do cuz drake either lying or he been down with young money for a while.
lol wtf... U not sure if he met him on that date in 08 or in o9... We haven't even "reached" nov 18 2009.... Lol so i think u juz :reachin" a lil too much "playa"
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 kraYz13 said:
this is what your doing :metallicblue:

this is what you should be doing
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 kraYz13 said:
this is what your doing :metallicblue:

this is what you should be doing
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LoL! Classic. Close Thread.
 05-25-2009, 08:35 AM         #34
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Everybody trying to play the thread starter but I got on boxden to make a post that I think Drake was ghostwriting for Wayne. They styles are waaaaayyy to similar. Drake already got a Phantom? humm like 400 grand at least. Already? REally? IF you listen to Drake just imagine lil wayne saying his verse and you'll start to see. Me and my boy was listening to him last night. Sounds like he def ghostwrote for wayne.
 9 years ago '12        #35
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Lil Wayne fans are retarded and delusional


It's obvious it was a typo when he said 2009...

I didn't read what he said fully, but it didn't take a genius to figure it out, and thats yalls comeback?

I think most people understand that Drake been ghostwriting for Wayne.. for a long time.

And he's not the first..

Just go listen to '500 degreez', and then 'Tha Carter I'.. (( I See you Shawn J!! ( Field Mob))

Then listen to 'Tha Carter II'

Obviously the differences between '500 Degreez' and 'Tha Carter I' is a complete turn around, but then on 'Tha Carter II' you notice that he's now rapping with multi's, a brouder vocabulary, and crazy wordplay, like a up-north cat

hMM..

Doesn't take a rocket scientist..


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 9 years ago '12        #36
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 magatsu said:
Anyone who's listened to Lil Wayne since the start of his career (as in before the Hot Boys album even dropped) knows that n*gga isn't behind all of that music. n*gga style/content/lyricism has changed too many times to be explained any other way. I don't want to hear s**t about drugs/syrup whatever.

I mean when this n*gga first started claiming he was "the best rapper alive" during the carter era he still wouldn't freestyle on the spot or battle anyone. Why you think he always dodging beefs or dances around the questions.

I like Wayne, but he's not that great of a rapper and never has been. n*gga was just decent. But he's made some good albums and some good tracks for years. It just sucks that its been at a point for a long time that you can't even tell if what he's spitting is him or someone else.

Thats why I always go back to old Wayne at the end of the day.......





Only time that n*gga seemed genuine to me. Its just sucks that the music game is becoming more and more manufactured. I mean they always had ghost writers/singers for decades but it wasn't as prevalent and it was mainly with pop acts. In the past couple years its gotten to a point where you can listen to a track and a couple seconds in you can tell who wrote it. I like my music real and from the heart. Thats usually why artists first/underground albums are the best, because it was before they got into the industry and had the record company forcing these things on them in desperation for another hit. Its the lyrics and things they've been going through from the whole life up until that point.

I mean you gotta pay the bills but I wouldn't even want to be a ghostwriter. Having someone else sing and perform some s**t that came from your heart/experiences....f**k that.

But at least these artists are finally getting to shine on their own....Drake/Ne-yo/Dream/Keri Hilson etc.

Hip-hop/rap is supposed to be so dependent on n*ggaz being "real" but so much of it has become fake since its boom in the mid to late 90's that your average fan lets the fake bulls**t pass and hates the real s**t when it comes out. You don't have to like the Charles Hamiltons/Asher Roths/Drakes etc. be it their style/content or whatever but at least when I sit down and give these guys music a listen it feels genuine.

I'd much rather listen to someone be themselves on an album and find certain things I can relate to, than listen to someone try to manufacture an image and create an album full of songs they think I will relate to.

Only n*ggaz that should have ghostwriters in the hip-hop/rap scene are acts like Dre and Diddy. n*ggaz that everyone knows don't write most of their s**t. At least they honest about it. If you want to be one of those type of acts then just come out and admit to it.

Listening to a white college kid my age rap about partying, having fun, and how he got into hip-hop.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


Listening to a 32 year old college graduate with a degree in accounting rap about a street life and ignorant s**t he lived vicariously through his brother/friends.


[pic - click to view]




Not to say artists like Plies don't have their place in the music industry, or make decent songs, but they need to be put in a separate category where the fans and young n*ggaz in the street who live and die by what they hear on these albums understand its fabricated bulls**t for strictly making money and entertainment purposes. Not "real" genuine music from the heart.

Young rich n*gga growing up wealthy in Canada talking about being young rich, his relationships, and working his a.ss off to get where he's at.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


33 year old man who had to work as a correctional officer to pay the bills adopting the persona of a drug dealer he never met talking about diamonds and cars he leases and fronting like hes f**king bad b***hes when he can't take care of his kids and impregnated an escort.


[pic - click to view]



When you make music with the intention of creating a hit single and/or successful album people will buy you will rarely reach more than moderate success at best.

When you make music for the sake of making music because you love it and its your passion and how you exercise your demons/thoughts, your going to amass a dedicated fan base that will take you to the highest heights of success.

Do it for the love and the passion, never for the wealth and fame. That applies across the board in anything you do in life.
Spot on post, my friend.
 9 years ago '05        #37
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Spot on post, my friend.
Except only 3 people will read it.
 9 years ago '06        #38
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Ok i made a hugh typo but it was late last night. people make mistakes. I just made an a.ssumption. If you rapping about being 21 on tracks that came out this year and you look at the release dates and these same tracks your a different age its weird. Every one ask him how he met wayne and he gives u the whole barbershop story, i flew out to houston, im out here smoking, dranking, women everywhere, me and wayne does 3 songs that night. blah blah, thats how the song came out about November 18, i got my swag back, i met wayne, i went on tour with him. If that means november 18, 2008 then drake was 22 then. His birthday is on October 24. Why is there songs coming out saying your 21. Now if he meant november 18 2007, then songs like i can take your girl, stunt hard, ransom and i want this forever are old as hell. Im just saying though, if he been around 2 years and you still down with lil wayne then that means, he must have been writting for him or doing something cuz no artist sticks around wayne that long. artist go off and come back to him but if drake been around almost 2 years then 1 he should be signed, 2 he should be more experienced in the studio. dude just did an interview saying ive only been in the studio with maybe 2 major producers. Only way i can see this going is these n*ggaz is lying or drake been writting for wayne but he decided to bring drake along once his buzz got bigger. I made a good point about the comeback season track. It could be a good topic but its either he releasing old verses or he been down with wayne for a while which could result in a lil ghost writing.
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 magatsu said:
Anyone who's listened to Lil Wayne since the start of his career (as in before the Hot Boys album even dropped) knows that n*gga isn't behind all of that music. n*gga style/content/lyricism has changed too many times to be explained any other way. I don't want to hear s**t about drugs/syrup whatever.

I mean when this n*gga first started claiming he was "the best rapper alive" during the carter era he still wouldn't freestyle on the spot or battle anyone. Why you think he always dodging beefs or dances around the questions.

I like Wayne, but he's not that great of a rapper and never has been. n*gga was just decent. But he's made some good albums and some good tracks for years. It just sucks that its been at a point for a long time that you can't even tell if what he's spitting is him or someone else.

Thats why I always go back to old Wayne at the end of the day.......





Only time that n*gga seemed genuine to me. Its just sucks that the music game is becoming more and more manufactured. I mean they always had ghost writers/singers for decades but it wasn't as prevalent and it was mainly with pop acts. In the past couple years its gotten to a point where you can listen to a track and a couple seconds in you can tell who wrote it. I like my music real and from the heart. Thats usually why artists first/underground albums are the best, because it was before they got into the industry and had the record company forcing these things on them in desperation for another hit. Its the lyrics and things they've been going through from the whole life up until that point.

I mean you gotta pay the bills but I wouldn't even want to be a ghostwriter. Having someone else sing and perform some s**t that came from your heart/experiences....f**k that.

But at least these artists are finally getting to shine on their own....Drake/Ne-yo/Dream/Keri Hilson etc.

Hip-hop/rap is supposed to be so dependent on n*ggaz being "real" but so much of it has become fake since its boom in the mid to late 90's that your average fan lets the fake bulls**t pass and hates the real s**t when it comes out. You don't have to like the Charles Hamiltons/Asher Roths/Drakes etc. be it their style/content or whatever but at least when I sit down and give these guys music a listen it feels genuine.

I'd much rather listen to someone be themselves on an album and find certain things I can relate to, than listen to someone try to manufacture an image and create an album full of songs they think I will relate to.

Only n*ggaz that should have ghostwriters in the hip-hop/rap scene are acts like Dre and Diddy. n*ggaz that everyone knows don't write most of their s**t. At least they honest about it. If you want to be one of those type of acts then just come out and admit to it.

Listening to a white college kid my age rap about partying, having fun, and how he got into hip-hop.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


Listening to a 32 year old college graduate with a degree in accounting rap about a street life and ignorant s**t he lived vicariously through his brother/friends.


[pic - click to view]




Not to say artists like Plies don't have their place in the music industry, or make decent songs, but they need to be put in a separate category where the fans and young n*ggaz in the street who live and die by what they hear on these albums understand its fabricated bulls**t for strictly making money and entertainment purposes. Not "real" genuine music from the heart.

Young rich n*gga growing up wealthy in Canada talking about being young rich, his relationships, and working his a.ss off to get where he's at.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


33 year old man who had to work as a correctional officer to pay the bills adopting the persona of a drug dealer he never met talking about diamonds and cars he leases and fronting like hes f**king bad b***hes when he can't take care of his kids and impregnated an escort.


[pic - click to view]



When you make music with the intention of creating a hit single and/or successful album people will buy you will rarely reach more than moderate success at best.

When you make music for the sake of making music because you love it and its your passion and how you exercise your demons/thoughts, your going to amass a dedicated fan base that will take you to the highest heights of success.

Do it for the love and the passion, never for the wealth and fame. That applies across the board in anything you do in life.
Smartest man here. Close thread. Props
 05-25-2009, 10:55 AM         #40
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 magatsu said:
Anyone who's listened to Lil Wayne since the start of his career (as in before the Hot Boys album even dropped) knows that n*gga isn't behind all of that music. n*gga style/content/lyricism has changed too many times to be explained any other way. I don't want to hear s**t about drugs/syrup whatever.

I mean when this n*gga first started claiming he was "the best rapper alive" during the carter era he still wouldn't freestyle on the spot or battle anyone. Why you think he always dodging beefs or dances around the questions.

I like Wayne, but he's not that great of a rapper and never has been. n*gga was just decent. But he's made some good albums and some good tracks for years. It just sucks that its been at a point for a long time that you can't even tell if what he's spitting is him or someone else.

Thats why I always go back to old Wayne at the end of the day.......





Only time that n*gga seemed genuine to me. Its just sucks that the music game is becoming more and more manufactured. I mean they always had ghost writers/singers for decades but it wasn't as prevalent and it was mainly with pop acts. In the past couple years its gotten to a point where you can listen to a track and a couple seconds in you can tell who wrote it. I like my music real and from the heart. Thats usually why artists first/underground albums are the best, because it was before they got into the industry and had the record company forcing these things on them in desperation for another hit. Its the lyrics and things they've been going through from the whole life up until that point.

I mean you gotta pay the bills but I wouldn't even want to be a ghostwriter. Having someone else sing and perform some s**t that came from your heart/experiences....f**k that.

But at least these artists are finally getting to shine on their own....Drake/Ne-yo/Dream/Keri Hilson etc.

Hip-hop/rap is supposed to be so dependent on n*ggaz being "real" but so much of it has become fake since its boom in the mid to late 90's that your average fan lets the fake bulls**t pass and hates the real s**t when it comes out. You don't have to like the Charles Hamiltons/Asher Roths/Drakes etc. be it their style/content or whatever but at least when I sit down and give these guys music a listen it feels genuine.

I'd much rather listen to someone be themselves on an album and find certain things I can relate to, than listen to someone try to manufacture an image and create an album full of songs they think I will relate to.

Only n*ggaz that should have ghostwriters in the hip-hop/rap scene are acts like Dre and Diddy. n*ggaz that everyone knows don't write most of their s**t. At least they honest about it. If you want to be one of those type of acts then just come out and admit to it.

Listening to a white college kid my age rap about partying, having fun, and how he got into hip-hop.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


Listening to a 32 year old college graduate with a degree in accounting rap about a street life and ignorant s**t he lived vicariously through his brother/friends.


[pic - click to view]




Not to say artists like Plies don't have their place in the music industry, or make decent songs, but they need to be put in a separate category where the fans and young n*ggaz in the street who live and die by what they hear on these albums understand its fabricated bulls**t for strictly making money and entertainment purposes. Not "real" genuine music from the heart.

Young rich n*gga growing up wealthy in Canada talking about being young rich, his relationships, and working his a.ss off to get where he's at.......


[pic - click to view]




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >


33 year old man who had to work as a correctional officer to pay the bills adopting the persona of a drug dealer he never met talking about diamonds and cars he leases and fronting like hes f**king bad b***hes when he can't take care of his kids and impregnated an escort.


[pic - click to view]



When you make music with the intention of creating a hit single and/or successful album people will buy you will rarely reach more than moderate success at best.

When you make music for the sake of making music because you love it and its your passion and how you exercise your demons/thoughts, your going to amass a dedicated fan base that will take you to the highest heights of success.

Do it for the love and the passion, never for the wealth and fame. That applies across the board in anything you do in life.
Wow so on point
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