Bar for bar, Joe Budden isn't as good as he says he is...

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 05-17-2009, 12:14 PM         #81
Sir Shiesty  OP
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answer none.
 05-17-2009, 02:21 PM         #82
Narcz  OP
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 Scan said:
Padded Room

"Welcome everybody into the brain of a self proclaimed sinner
Even when he can't win, that n*gga won't surrender
Bulls fault, put the wheels in motion
I felt every emotion except devotion
Message in a bottle in the bottom of the ocean
But I can't swim, damn it I can't win
So I don't care how you rate me
It'd take a long time to evaluate me"

"Why shake the dice if you never gon roll
I told em, that the straight-jacket can't hold em
I ain't phsyco, don't belittle me now
It's just the title cause they couldn't figure me ou"

"the world is full of suckers but dont worry im your buffer
buffer like i shoulda been for bj
but he never listened to nuthin we say
it was half past 12 midnight on a weekday
not even 20 hours past his release date
this n*gga hit him up four times
one hit the heart
and that hit my heart
called his pops n*ggaz pick the phone up
so he come find his son lying in his own blood
on that block that we ran thru
house we grew up in corner we would post on
shot dead in front of n*ggaz we would be with
so how the f**k nobody see s**t"


"There ain't no book that tells a story there ain't no index
We got some different type of cuts and no they ain't princess
All this indigest seemingly in less
How I take in stress when I always went best
Aching in my chest and yet it still won't break me
They say the room is padded for my own safety
But the cushion don't soften s**t
They locked the door but still they let my thoughts in it
And no one can tell me why I'm here
I can't even see the sky from here
I guess my time is near "

and The whole songs of "Prav for Me" and "Do Tell" are quotables...
 Scan said:
Halfway House

"Rappers ain’t fond of me, “f**k them” my mantra be
The game’s fixed anyways, ask Tim Donaghy
I’m on some all kind of weed, sleep where the Parana’s be
And honestly, I’m everything dude’s is trying to be
I get money and haul off,
While they at rock bottom, the poor guys can’t even fall off"

"See, I was born in the projects, left for a new hood
Jetted ta' a new state, lookin' for a new pace.
Diamond in the rough, I stood out amongst the fugaze
Swear a friend a mine headlined every news page
Wit' dreams of bein' wealthy
You now checkin' out the new Jersey version of Peter Petrelli.
But wait! Wit' a lil' Travis Barker on the side
'Cause when it all falls down I normally survive."

"They let the beast outta' the cage, look at the hunger
Got'chur self inta' some s**t, look at the plunger.
I'm talkin' 'cause I'm livin' it, entrepreneur Steve Rifkind s**t
Though a few haters wann' Kinder it.
I'm comin' wit' some different s**t
An' these offices all about my paper, that's that dunder mifflen s**t."

"I get a ghetto gospel
only right considering the ghetto was my hostel
Memories is off, but I'm recalling all through higschool
Even at my lowest, I was sitting on my high stool
Cuz that's what being high do...
Couldn't do s**t, was always able to tote
they told me that a n*gga would die before I was able to vote
Probably cuz me and my constituents, and all the s**t we did...
The MRI couldn't tell you what the issue is
With my treason, came a cause that I believed in
Is it really wrong if a n*gga got a reason?
At times I had to take dough, n*gga did w/e for a peso..
and being from the hood would be my scapegoat
Or can it be, that cuz I wasn't born into a canopy
maybe I was prone to fall in love with vanity?
Tell em s**t you reap, is the s**t you sow
Tell god I'm better than the s**t I show...I gotta grow"

You know what...f**k you. This is too easy. And I definitely believe that them whole s**ts is "that" dope. Don't you have a thing for T.I? The most overrated rapper lyrically in some time? Wow..
Wow I totally missed these posts. Again, are those "quotables" really THAT great? Are they good? yes. Great? no. But Joe (and his few internet soldiers) make his words sound so f**king sick. If he were to use half of that s**t you posted in a battle or just to cipher people wouldn't be all amazed like :eek: Which leads me to my point that bar for bar he's not as good as he says he is. If he dropped more tracks like Overkill or Hottest In The Hood then maybe this could be a different argument... but he only 'goes in' on occasion.

And whats with you n*ggas always bringing up a rapper in someone's avatar as an argument. s**t is so gay. Who the f**k is talking about T.I. right now?


Last edited by Narcz; 05-17-2009 at 02:24 PM..
 9 years ago '04        #83
Zab_JudahX 5 heat pts
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 jwindigo2k4 said:
banks > budden
Joe Budden is from

"Jerz where they keep heat and love shanks, and they keep money under the mattress f**k BANKS" - Joe Budden - Blood Pressure freestyle

03/04/05 Mixtape Joe Budden >>>>
 9 years ago '04        #84
eza 
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hes like fabolous they shine on some verses but they fail to make great album dont get me wrong i think budden is nice but hes very c*cky and for no reason apart from some disses and some joint form his first album i cant name another material which i honestly can say oh yeah this guy should be in my top 5 i agree to what he was saying that the vibe list made no sense but his out right attack on meth was out of line if he did that to game or 50 he knows they would try to destroy his career i honestly thing buddens behavior as a man is quite stupid if he wanted to battle meth then just say so
 9 years ago '05        #85
Ushouldpayme 1 heat pts
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I haven't heard most of Joe's songs but the most recent one about the current state of rap solidified him being a great rapper to me...Not great like Pac and 'em, but lyrically he gets busy as Meth said.
 05-18-2009, 07:12 AM         #86
Sir Shiesty  OP
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 Narcz said:
Wow I totally missed these posts. Again, are those "quotables" really THAT great? Are they good? yes. Great? no. But Joe (and his few internet soldiers) make his words sound so f**king sick. If he were to use half of that s**t you posted in a battle or just to cipher people wouldn't be all amazed like :eek: Which leads me to my point that bar for bar he's not as good as he says he is. If he dropped more tracks like Overkill or Hottest In The Hood then maybe this could be a different argument... but he only 'goes in' on occasion.

And whats with you n*ggas always bringing up a rapper in someone's avatar as an argument. s**t is so gay. Who the f**k is talking about T.I. right now?
then your point is stupid.

ALESS YOUR A RAPPER ON HIS COME UP NO1 IS GONNA SPIT EVERY BAR LIKE THEY IN A BATTLE. ITS STUPID TO SUGGGEST THAT.
LOOK AT ALL OF ME , SOME CONSIDER IT A GREAT TRACK SOME CONSIDER IT OVER HYPED.
WHAT EVER YOU THINK OF IT ITS GOT LOADS OF QOATABLES.
BUT DONT MEAN THERE BARS THAT YOU WOULD HEAR IN A BATTLE.

THATS LIKE SAYIN JAY-Z'S SONG CRY.. IS CRAP BECAUSE HIS QUOTABLES FROM THAT SONG WILL GET EATEN A BATTLE.

U ASK FOR QUOTABLES. YOU DIDNT SAY HE HAD TO B A BEAST IN EVERY VERSE.

IF U LOOKIN FOR A CIPHER WITH QUOTABLES CHECK OUT HIM OUT ON SHADE45


he k!lled this s**t. and beans,styles, FREEWAY,uncle murder could not come clsoe. and yh his bars had them like whoa.


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 07-14-2009, 05:26 PM         #87
Jerseyelite89  OP
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budden goes about as hard as his beats go, meaning if the beat aint hot his verse is barely ok
 8 years ago '08        #88
Future 44 heat pts44
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Coming from someone who rides Wayne and Drake 24/7
 07-14-2009, 05:54 PM         #89
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 CTR said:
define a "good" song
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Until we can define what is good music, people need to shut the f*** about "who is better than who."

















f*** drake
 8 years ago '04        #90
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 Narcz said:
Now I'm a huge Joe fan, but I'll be the first to tell you that bar for bar, line for line, word for word, Joe is good but he's not as dope as he hypes himself up to be. Only time Joe gets it in is on Diss records. Other then that I rarely hear any impressive Joe lines bar for bar. After listening again to Growth of a Legend and a bunch of misc other mixtape s**t he's done (), he's good but he's not great. A majority of his s**t is forgettable. Could you honestly give me 5 dope quotes from Padded Room? or Halfway House? And if you could would they really be 'that' good.. ? He's not really a punchline/metaphor person, but that's part of what rapping is.
I agree with most of what you said, being a Budden fan myself. I think he's really dope on Story/Concept tracks, and "Diss" tracks. Anything outside of that, he's usually watered down.. Just punchlines and metaphors... I don't think his flow is that creative, he needs to switch it up from time to time...
 8 years ago '04        #91
Drunk By Myself 
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you know you made it when you have just as many haters as fans...


btw threadstarter is obviously not a fan...
 8 years ago '07        #92
killahkazi 15 heat pts15
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8 f***ing pages? nobody's gonna read my post so f*** it.
 07-14-2009, 11:57 PM         #93
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I like Joe Budden alot, top rapper IMO.

Bar for Bar? Agreed, he isn't that good. But he does have good lines.

Halfway House > Padded Room
 8 years ago '08        #94
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Idk, n*ggas said he never made a good song. Thats silly to me. All Of Me>>most n*ggas careers.
 07-15-2009, 05:06 AM         #95
Narcz  OP
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 TiPZ said:
I like Joe Budden alot, top rapper IMO.

Bar for Bar? Agreed, he isn't that good. But he does have good lines.

Halfway House > Padded Room
Exactly the point I was trying to make. He has good lines... but bar for bar he couldn't compete with say Drake, Wayne, Royce, Jadakiss (in some cases) or Biggie. For those that are confused of what bar to bar means, listen to 'Ransom' by Wayne and Drake or 'It's The New' by Royce Da 5'9".
 07-15-2009, 05:17 AM         #96
TiPZ  OP
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 Narcz said:
Exactly the point I was trying to make. He has good lines... but bar for bar he couldn't compete with say Drake, Wayne, Royce, Jadakiss (in some cases) or Biggie. For those that are confused of what bar to bar means, listen to 'Ransom' by Wayne and Drake or 'It's The New' by Royce Da 5'9".
I disagree.

Joe Budden > Drake

In every form possible.
 8 years ago '06        #97
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the funny thing is Nobody in the hood like joe budden or dont even know who he is...but to anwser the Q hes not as good as he says he is ....but def not the worst..
 07-15-2009, 01:14 PM         #98
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 TiPZ said:
I disagree.

Joe Budden > Drake

In every form possible.
gotta disagree.

drake can make songs people will listen to. Drake is better for hip-hop then joe will ever be. Just because drake brings more people listening. Joe ain't gettin anyone listenin other then his already made fans, thats harsh but it's true.

Music ain't jus about rappin its about the beat the whole combination, melodies etc...joey jus rambles its like listenin to ben stein talk about the corealis effect. Joe don't make music..if we had to put music in a time capsule and only had a limit..joe wudn't make the grade..so much better artist an better music outhere then him..n it's like what they say your only good as your last hit.
 8 years ago '07        #99
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Budden would trash Drake and Wayne. n*ggas are buggin if they think otherwise.
 8 years ago '06        #100
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^ u wylin... budden would eat drake.. but not wayne sun

carter 2 >> budden
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