Fact or Fiction: Eminem has the best flow in rap history

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 9 years ago '05        #61
daliff89 1 heat pts
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 2D.... said:
yes it does have to do with flow
he splits and spaces words in ways so that the sounds rhyme
please learn what 'flow' is........

flow is the timing in which you say the words in relation to the beat, not how you split words to make them rhyme......

not a good thing? it gives his lyricism even more versatility
how could that be a bad thing?
it's the same thing as Cam saying he gets boosters boosting and computers puting........they're not real words anymore.....

the point is that anyone can pick two words and rhyme them
but he stays on track and rhymes them so it sounds natural and goes together perfectly
they flow together

and if he has the best is an opinion
some people feel him and some dont, no reason to argue over that
if he's changing the word it's not damn natural.

dude isn't rhyming s**t if he's forcing a word to be pronounced in a different way than it's supposed to be said......

 Switchc2390 said:
Um..No. Wordplay isn't when you rhyme s**t together that shouldn't rhyme. Wordplay is how you play on definitions of words and how words are constructed. Like that Chino XL line where he goes Cats think I'm spelling Iverson..cause I'll leave you in the IV with the ER SON. He plays on the way the word is constructed and the meanings of the individual letters in the words.

No, the flow on We Made You isn't masterful at all. Eminem's flow isn't even that great, it's his delivery that makes his flow seem really good. Eminem couldn't even rival Big Pun flow wise...you could make an argument for him being one of the best but purely the best? s**t is absurd.
the line is 'i'll leave you on an IV in the ER SON' and it was 40 Cal, not Chino XL....
 9 years ago '04        #62
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And plus eminem bites mad styles. One minute he sound like pharoa monch. Next he sound like jay. All he does is emulate and master everyone else sh*t to sound like ur favorite hiphop artist just like elvis did stealing chuck berry and everyone else who did it better. Got the right promotion and force feed the public to believe anything. Juss like when there was the anthrax scare and they had ur dumbasses buying ductape and tarps to seal off the windows from the outside air coming in. And the result ur left in a house without fresh air. So don't believe the hype!!!!!!
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 9 years ago '04        #63
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Right now Yes
 9 years ago '05        #64
Switchc2390 10 heat pts10
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 daliff89 said:


the line is 'i'll leave you on an IV in the ER SON' and it was 40 Cal, not Chino XL....
Word...point still stands though.
 9 years ago '07        #65
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he definitley up there on that list, new album is amazing
 9 years ago '08        #66
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 Speed+of_dark said:
And plus eminem bites mad styles. One minute he sound like pharoa monch. Next he sound like jay. All he does is emulate and master everyone else sh*t to sound like ur favorite hiphop artist just like elvis did stealing chuck berry and everyone else who did it better. Got the right promotion and force feed the public to believe anything. Juss like when there was the anthrax scare and they had ur dumbasses buying ductape and tarps to seal off the windows from the outside air coming in. And the result ur left in a house without fresh air. So don't believe the hype!!!!!!
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You're using the fact that Eminem can flow like Jay one minute and Pharoa Monch the next as a reason to hate on him? Check your logic, son.
 9 years ago '04        #67
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I guess ur just another clown who didn't read my whole quote and juss looked for his favorite rappers names. I was using their names in comparison to how elvis bit off of the original and they claimed him to be the king. You obviously don't know ur music history.And for you to "try" to refute anything I have said u betta come harder than that man!! I respect everyones opinion in here. But I'm dealing with facts. And the REAL cats kno what I'm talkin bout. So don't try to talk about logic son when it some to this post cuz in itself its illogical!!!!! Saying eminem has the greatest flow ever is like saying life was created in Europe. Non-factual staements are BLASPHEMOUS!!!!
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 9 years ago '08        #68
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 Speed+of_dark said:
I guess ur just another clown who didn't read my whole quote and juss looked for his favorite rappers names. I was using their names in comparison to how elvis bit off of the original and they claimed him to be the king. You obviously don't know ur music history.And for you to "try" to refute anything I have said u betta come harder than that man!! I respect everyones opinion in here. But I'm dealing with facts. And the REAL cats kno what I'm talkin bout. So don't try to talk about logic son when it some to this post cuz in itself its illogical!!!!! Saying eminem has the greatest flow ever is like saying life was created in Europe. Non-factual staements are BLASPHEMOUS!!!!
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I read and understood your quote. Better than you did, but that's another argument for another day.

I'm not saying he's the GOAT, but the Elvis comparison is pretty redundant in my eyes. I see Eminem as being quite unique (not because of his skin) in the rap game.
 9 years ago '04        #69
dog4life 1 heat pts
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after listening to track 4 on relapse fact
 9 years ago '04        #70
efromthev 2 heat pts
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He touched on so many styles on this cd and pulled them off perfect. I feel that his flow is better than it has ever been in his career.

My equilibrium's off, must be the lithium
I don't need to buy any drugs, man people gimmie um
It just becomes everyday, extra curriculum
No reason inparticular, it was strictly fun
a 5th of rum and 2 bottles of 151
51 people asleep in my damn living room
Excuse me hun, but what is your name, Vivienne?
I woke up next to ya nekkid and err, did we um
Of course we did, but didn't I strap a jimmy hun?
I'm looking for the torn rapper but there don't seem to be one
No offense baby girl, I don't mean any harm
But disease is something I'm tryna keep my p*nis free from
I find the package and I'm cool, I immediately run
Like Speedy Gonzales, see if I see anyone
Who might have a couple of 3's I'm fiendin' for some
My head is pounding to the beat of the drum

Not my favorite song on the cd but his flow on that verse is tough, keeping the same rhyme the whole verse.
 05-10-2009, 04:01 PM         #71
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Biggies flow >>>>> *


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 05-10-2009, 04:15 PM         #72
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 daliff89 said:


please learn what 'flow' is........

flow is the timing in which you say the words in relation to the beat, not how you split words to make them rhyme......

... and he times the syllables in words to make them rhyme
its not as if he sounds off track, so he is still keeping the relation to the beat
the arrangement of sounds over the beat = the timing in word in relation to the beat
same s**t, different words

it's the same thing as Cam saying he gets boosters boosting and computers puting........they're not real words anymore.....

they are real words because the s**t makes sense
cam just repeats sounds, not split them up, he couldnt flow it to that extent
it would sound even more retarded than he does now

if he's changing the word it's not damn natural.

dude isn't rhyming s**t if he's forcing a word to be pronounced in a different way than it's supposed to be said......

you think its forced, i think its skillful to be able to do it so it sounds natural
regardless of whether it is or its not, it sounds good and makes sense
what more is needed?

i feel like we're arguing over f**king opinions now
 8 years ago '07        #73
Bkjj11 3550 heat pts3550
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let it live...

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 07-28-2009, 06:10 PM         #74
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He changes flow on every song and also during songs..
 8 years ago '09        #75
Spiffy 34 heat pts34
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very big eminem fan but I think Biggie had a better flow
 09-03-2009, 06:57 AM         #76
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Eminem is not in my top 5 but I respect his flow, NO ONE can deny this whether you like him or not.

He can flow as good as anyone in hip hop, if not better.

* Relapse showed glimpses of his machine-gun flow
* The Warning was good
* His verse on 'Forever' was ill (delivery wise)

And I had never seen this video before, but from 3 mins onwards on the Microphone beat = SICK

Check it out...


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 8 years ago '05        #77
Sivraj 328 heat pts328
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Yeah eminem has that versitility. His multis is amazing.
 09-03-2009, 07:07 AM         #78
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I agree with the "Relapse Machine-Gun Flow"

On "Stay Wide Awake when he said "before-see hore" >>>>>

his whole flow is genius
 8 years ago '05        #79
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Yeah man Em has a crazy a.ss style. Relapse was a descent album. But in love with his old s**t.
 8 years ago '04        #80
l0udm0uf 1 heat pts
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titty f**king you til your brea$t n*pple flesh tickles my testicles!
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