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 14 years ago '04        #76
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 Dos-effect said
never gave a reason why they dont understand the message or led on that I beleived simply because some white is white they dont relate to what he is saying.........the reason why I said that is because they dont listen to the lyrics or understand that pac says.........and who says wayne brady or collin powell listens to tupac? Or the people you know do they listen to tupac religously? Or go out thier way to find every pac album or book to ever come out? And the only thing they get from the music.....is pac was a thug?.....


Smh trying to talk to white people from a black perspective is like talking to a 3 year old deaf kid about the sound of music........they just dont get it
i can tell u got racist tendencies....ignorance is a bi*ch....get over it n move on to somethin better..like KNOWLEDGE...ur narrow and close minded.......now let me give u the examples since ur doubtin wat i said

These 2 black guys i know, in my class at school(college psychology class) said that if a man cries or shows any kind of emotion he is a f*g. I know for a fact that these 2 ppl listen to 2pac and own most if not every cd of his. IF(and i stress that if) they UNDERSTOOD 2pacs message then they would recall him sayin somethin to the effect of "if u dont cry or show emotion, then ur not real." I brought this point up 2 them ppl and they felt like idiots....therefore i come to 2 conclusions....they dont understand Pacs message or they r Ignorant just like urself! and since u wanna b a smartass...

smh tryna talk to a black man who thinks ALL white men r tryna keep him down or white men cant relate just cuz of their skin color is like teaching u that some white ppl do mean good and they wanna help and that they arent racist and that they can relate and understand...........just wont get it.

For the record, I own every pac album, i got the resurrection book, ive got the resurrection movie, i have his poem book, and ive read several others that ppl have wrote about him, i even have several songs in OG form and songs that arent on cds.
I also donate money to several charities, i work with people in poverty and donate not just money but time and servies so they they have food to eat, someone to talk to, and just someone to b there, and i teach/help them better their skills to help them locate/get jobs. Now let me ask you....what have YOU done for THE community/WORLD as whole? Nothin? thought so! My point of sayin all that was to tell you that i do understand where a lot of ppl(of various backgrounds, races, and economic levels) r comin from and i can relate to several of them....just cuz im white dont mean i cant listen to someone and understand there problems and see where they r coming from. and believe me i know there r racist white ppl(but there r racist blacks too) but thru me and ppl like me im tryna change that and erase the stereotype of whites being that way.


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 12-06-2004, 11:45 AM         #77
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19->dominican ~ i like em, but he aint the best. and yea his album wasnt up there as plenty of you have stated.

 12-06-2004, 11:53 AM         #78
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24 Black Em Is Dope Plain And Simple

 12-06-2004, 11:53 AM         #79
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We dont need your help.......fu*k whites peoples help to be honest with you......you think just because you can throw some cash into a charite your helping the cause? n*gga money aint sh*t but green slips of paper that we give power too. You aint sh*t but some white cat who thinks he owes us something. That aint helping nothing but your concious.
You think that listening to pac's music elevates you to be some white hope for the black race.....fu*k outta here dog. Your whole thought process is we need to bring peace among races so blacks and whites can all bob our heads together in unision for the great hiphop cause........fu*k that.....white people then had 500 years to stop being dirty a.ss people...and all they have gained from it is a c*cky attitude that they can not be touched. Im glad you like pac and you feel his music but dont expect me to praise you on some whitey is looking out for us darkies bullsh*t......cause thats not what a majority of pac's music is about.........his main point is we need to elevate our selves without the help of white people......get our own banks, build up our own neighborhoods, provide our own education........you doing what you doing is nothing but perpetuating a common stereotype of whitey pitying the black man.......

 12-06-2004, 11:57 AM         #80
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 DTownPistonsFan said
All the other stuff you've said, I'm not worried about it. I don't agree with your statements about his content or wu, dead prez and AZ being better. But I'm gonna leave that alone because that's your opinion and, fu*k it, you're allowed to have it. Of all the stuff you've said though, that right there is the one thing that is just completely wrong and that you've failed to address when somebody comes at you about it. Let's be real cuz, for the most part, we're all grown here. I think, based on the stuff you've said, that you really are just a racist guy. Why?
1. You first post that started all this stuff in that other thread was when you talked about how Eminem and all the "crackers."
2. You said you don't like him based on his content...which, like someone said, just doesn't make any sense. I don't particularly like Jay Z. I don't know why, I just don't. But I would be a fool to pretend that his abilities have something to do with that. He's an excellent rapper and businessman. Basically, game recognize game. And whether or not Em's current album is good or not is a moot point. NOBODY can deny that he's an excellent rapper. And I really think you don't like him cuz he's white. You just know better than to actually SAY that.
3. Look at your list of rappers you said he's not better than...all of bunch of guys that have no appeal to white people...especially those racists Dead Prez. You say he's fu*kin up hiphop...I think you feel that way because he doesn't rap solely for your a.ss, but that his rap reaches and appeals to everyone, including white people. And for you, it's "fu*kin up hiphop" cuz Em is making it so it's NOT JUST FOR BLACK PEOPLE ANYMORE.

You asked what Em has done for hiphop in that other thread. I said this and you failed to address it. Now I think I know why.

Look at your list of rappers you said he's not better than...all of bunch of guys that have no appeal to white people...especially those racists Dead Prez

plainly you support white garbage......but denounce black knowledge......lol....and your speaking on what hiphop is about.......smh

Bumps.........PUBLIC ENEMY_FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET

 14 years ago '04        #81
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obviously u didnt read wat i said cuz i DONT JUST THROW CASH N A CHARITY i do lots of work. i dont PITY nobody. a lot of the ppl i deal wit have lost a loved one, lost their job, lost their home, etc. and therefore they cannot AFFORD certain things. i feel sorry for the reason/position they r in but i do not PITY them. They are all amazing people with great minds....what i do is just help them eat until they r back on their feet, and i show them ways to go about finding jobs and once they find jobs/interviews i show them tricks of the trade to ensure that they get the job over someone else who might interview for the same job. but i dont do anything FOR them i just show them HOW. Like i said a lot of times they just want someone to talk to n to feel like someone is there/cares. however I dont feel like i OWE BLACKS nething because even tho blacks have had it rough due to the slavery and racism.....thats not me...i wasnt alive then. I do not work JUST with black ppl i work with ppl from all races and backgrounds like i stated before...from white to black to hispanic to asian....its all the same. But since u wanna b dumb n say blacks need to create their own banks n sh*t....thats great...if that happens great but im not DOING that for them. I get them back on their feet....dont u see that if i can help them get on their feet then they will b independent and then they can create wat u r talkin bout

 12-06-2004, 12:03 PM         #82
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But since u wanna b dumb n say blacks need to create their own banks n sh*t

why is that statement considered dumb?..........

 14 years ago '04        #83
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thanks for disregardin the rest of the thing i wrote.....

however i think that it is dumb because i do not like singlin out ppl i do not like WHITE RESTROOMS, WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS, BLACK BANKS, blah blah blah....i dont liek singlin out any race like that....y cant we have a bank where everyone can go and let the bank be wat it is regardless of race

 12-06-2004, 12:11 PM         #84
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Why cant we elvevate our own selves to the degree that white people......put more money into our communities.....why do we have to use banks that are owned by white people? We are doing nothing but paying them to hold money we work for? Why cant we give loans to black people to start thier own businesses instead of waiting for some white guppie banker to decide if our credit is good enough to start 1?..Im for uplifting not coinciding with a race of people who time and time again show they have no real interest in furthering along our advancement. Of course you have a problem with BLACK neighborhoods and WHite neighborhoods......yet they exist today correct? White banks where they hold nothing but white money in areas that are white dominated right? Its cool as long as its not in the public eye. Segregation is still around.....and we get the sh*t end of the seperation but when we begin talking about improving the odds we have been giving then all of a sudden.....its Racist and we need to just let things continue the way they are......cause thats the American way huh? And the fact that you see a problem with this proves my point at least pertaining to you on the listening to pac but not understanding the message


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 14 years ago '04        #85
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^ anyone else get annoyed as fu*k from this guy? always giving his narrow-minded, ignorant perspective on things. quit bi*chin all the time and stfu.

 14 years ago '04        #86
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 14 years ago '04        #87
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 Dos-effect said
Why cant we elvevate our own selves to the degree that white people......put more money into our communities.....why do we have to use banks that are owned by white people? We are doing nothing but paying them to hold money we work for? Why cant we give loans to black people to start thier own businesses instead of waiting for some white guppie banker to decide if our credit is good enough to start 1?..Im for uplifting not coinciding with a race of people who time and time again show they have no real interest in furthering along our advancement. Of course you have a problem with BLACK neighborhoods and WHite neighborhoods......yet they exist today correct? White banks where they hold nothing but white money in areas that are white dominated right? Its cool as long as its not in the public eye. Segregation is still around.....and we get the sh*t end of the seperation but when we begin talking about improving the odds we have been giving then all of a sudden.....its Racist and we need to just let things continue the way they are......cause thats the American way huh? And the fact that you see a problem with this proves my point at least pertaining to you on the listening to pac but not understanding the message
u obviously dont read or comprehend anything i say so this is my last response.....
i dont have a problem with black banks i have a problem with ANY bank or ANY thing that singles out a race therefore i have a problem with BLACK BANKS, WHITE BANKS, HISPANIC BANKS.....watever else u can come up wit. I understand there is segregation cuz ive already stated that racism is still alive n i understand black ppl catch the majority of the problem...but creatin "black banks" is not going to help it.....by doing that u r further segregatin urself as if a white person created a restroom for whites and a restroom for "colored" back b4 and during the civil rights movement. Its the same as that...in order to over come segregation u cant segregate even more...u have to come together....god i swear ive never talked to a more idiotic close minded fu*k! get a fu*kin education! Im done!

 12-06-2004, 05:45 PM         #88
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 SLAYAR said
^ anyone else get annoyed as fu*k from this guy? always giving his narrow-minded, ignorant perspective on things. quit bi*chin all the time and stfu.
Ignorance only comes form those who refuse to accept truth.......you refuse to accept truth......majority of white people are evil, black people are still facing racism, and yall would rather you live in peace the way the world is then have some black dude constantly telling you about yourselves and how your race constantly fu*ks with him. and voicing change through the empowerment of his own race......nothing narrow minded about that at all.....but Im sure Ill get banned soon......cause hey hiphop is about the "music" and racism is over played and doesnt exist save the fact that blacks cant let it go correct?.....

 14 years ago '04        #89
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 DTownPistonsFan said
All the other stuff you've said, I'm not worried about it. I don't agree with your statements about his content or wu, dead prez and AZ being better. But I'm gonna leave that alone because that's your opinion and, fu*k it, you're allowed to have it. Of all the stuff you've said though, that right there is the one thing that is just completely wrong and that you've failed to address when somebody comes at you about it. Let's be real cuz, for the most part, we're all grown here. I think, based on the stuff you've said, that you really are just a racist guy. Why?
1. You first post that started all this stuff in that other thread was when you talked about how Eminem and all the "crackers."
2. You said you don't like him based on his content...which, like someone said, just doesn't make any sense. I don't particularly like Jay Z. I don't know why, I just don't. But I would be a fool to pretend that his abilities have something to do with that. He's an excellent rapper and businessman. Basically, game recognize game. And whether or not Em's current album is good or not is a moot point. NOBODY can deny that he's an excellent rapper. And I really think you don't like him cuz he's white. You just know better than to actually SAY that.
3. Look at your list of rappers you said he's not better than...all of bunch of guys that have no appeal to white people...especially those racists Dead Prez. You say he's fu*kin up hiphop...I think you feel that way because he doesn't rap solely for your a.ss, but that his rap reaches and appeals to everyone, including white people. And for you, it's "fu*kin up hiphop" cuz Em is making it so it's NOT JUST FOR BLACK PEOPLE ANYMORE.

You asked what Em has done for hiphop in that other thread. I said this and you failed to address it. Now I think I know why.
Until you have facts on me being racist by what i said. You have no bases on calling me a racist. Eminem use the word ****** and admitted to it. I dont hear you calling him a racist. I dont care if he said it 30 year's ago. I never said all white people are crackers. All white people dont even listen to rap music, so they dont have nothing to with what i'm saying. I'm talking about all the littles teeny boopers & air head whites who buy Eminem music cause he's white. Butdont like Wu Tang or AZ cause they dont appeal to them. I thought good music suppose to appeal to anyone. Wu Tang & AZ dont make music only for the urban community. But Nelly, Chingy & Jkwon appeal to these teeny boopers cause of the commercial music Eminem puts out. You havent given me any solid proof that Eminems a good rapper. I didnt know all you had to do come up with easy metaphors and punchlines that makes you a good rapper. It's about 10 n*ggaz on the mixtape circuit who use metaphors and punchlines. It dont make them any good.


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 12-06-2004, 06:06 PM         #90
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 atlcrunkshawty said
u obviously dont read or comprehend anything i say so this is my last response.....
i dont have a problem with black banks i have a problem with ANY bank or ANY thing that singles out a race therefore i have a problem with BLACK BANKS, WHITE BANKS, HISPANIC BANKS.....watever else u can come up wit. I understand there is segregation cuz ive already stated that racism is still alive n i understand black ppl catch the majority of the problem...but creatin "black banks" is not going to help it.....by doing that u r further segregatin urself as if a white person created a restroom for whites and a restroom for "colored" back b4 and during the civil rights movement. Its the same as that...in order to over come segregation u cant segregate even more...u have to come together....god i swear ive never talked to a more idiotic close minded fu*k! get a fu*kin education! Im done!

Come together? You dont get it do you........we will never come together.......its not like its just blacks in this country that get done dirty.this sh*t happens all over the world......I mean I dont give a fu*k where you live in its a good portion of black peopel they are getting it worse either on a local level or national level.........I already know blacks are not liked through out the world.......and the main reason is not because of our past or our current issues its simply because we are black.......You talk about education but if you yourself understood history then you would see yourself that white peopel go out of thier way to hold us back....weather be considered conspiracy theory or known fact its happening.......so you tell me when exactly is the coming together supposed to happen.......you accept the fact that we need to stop with racism and come together and I use to have those same feelings....but I know now that that is a dream.....I often thought blacks and whites history in this country was started around slavery.....I know now that is not true.........we have had animosity with each other since the beginning of civilization.......this is nothing new........but to tell me that Im narrow minded or ignorant simply because Im for the seperation of black americans from the drugs, the jails, the trumped up trails, the poor schools, the poor housing then your nothing but the average white man who knows NOTHING about black struggle............your at ease with the world and why shouldnt you be.......your out look is not that of a black mans......and please dont think listening to tupac's records gives you insight cause its very evident that it does not. And segregation is not considered a black bank who serves everybody.......segregation is having a resturant in the middle of town and now allowing 1 single white person to eat thier because its a disgrace to the real customers.....Im not for that...maybe you need to understand this..

 12-06-2004, 06:11 PM         #91
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 12-06-2004, 06:15 PM         #92
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 mprnc2000 said
Until you have facts on me being racist by what i said. You have no bases on calling me a racist. Eminem use the word ****** and admitted to it. I dont hear you calling him a racist. I dont care if he said it 30 year's ago. I never said all white people are crackers. All white people dont even listen to rap music, so they dont have nothing to with what i'm saying. I'm talking about all the littles teeny boopers & air head whites who buy Eminem music cause he's white. Butdont like Wu Tang or AZ cause they dont appeal to them. I thought good music suppose to appeal to anyone. Wu Tang & AZ dont make music only for the urban community. But Nelly, Chingy & Jkwon appeal to these teeny boopers cause of the commercial music Eminem puts out. You havent given me any solid proof that Eminems a good rapper. I didnt know all you had to do come up with easy metaphors and punchlines that makes you a good rapper. It's about 10 n*ggaz on the mixtape circuit who use metaphors and punchlines. It dont make them any good.

stop wasting ya time.........black man says white boy "thats racist" white boy says n*gga.....and its part of hiphop.........RWP realest sh*t Ive ever heard


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 14 years ago '04        #93
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 Dos-effect said
stop wasting ya time.........black man says white boy "thats racist" white boy says n*gga.....and its part of hiphop.........RWP realest sh*t Ive ever heard
That's how i feel right now. Eminem can get away with sh*t cause he's white. The same way Elvis got away with sh*t and still getting away with to this day. I just went out to eat and at the restaurant. They had a coming soon performance by a wannabe elvis coming soon

 14 years ago '04        #94
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Well whites who listen to rap music wanna live an urban lifestyle. An urban black culture. I never said no one white can rap. I dont have a problem with the beastie boys or 3rd base. When the beastie boys & 3rd started rapping. It didnt fu*k up hip hop where you have all these commercial rappers selling records. It was still reality & hardcore lyricist rap. Now plain and simple rap is selling more then creative. I bet alot of people on this board havent even heard Ali Vegaz Industry Talking song

 12-06-2004, 06:32 PM         #95
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alot of artists' greatest work is before they become "pop" in the media, most artists dont care that their music isnt what it used to be because they have 5 houses now. arguing which artists is better than the other is pointless because everyone has their own tastes, fans of crunk will argue with lyricists all day long,

as for this thread that has veered off im 19 and white
but im not an ignorant white kid who listens to what is commercially thrown at me i listen to music that i enjoy such as talib, non phixion, cormega, and old jay-z... and me being young doesnt automatically make me ignorant because im opened minded and ive listened to many artists from before my time and enjoyed their music, i liked eminems older music and i have respect for him as an artist but unfortunatly i beleive that he has been sucked in by the mainstream media and it shows that he would rather make music that will sell than make music that is good and i give him credit for getting where he is

oh yea and my 15 yr old brother listens to eminem now.... so as long as little kids are buying ems cd, he'll continue to make youth targeted music

 14 years ago '04        #96
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Yo mprnc2000 it's pointless tryin' to explain it to them...I would say that more than half the peeps on this board are Eminem followers, fans, or fanatics. If they hear anything slightly negative about EM they'll gang up on ya. All they will do is try to justify everything he says or do. I've seen it happen before. God forbid somethin' happened to him...white dudes and Oreo cookies would be cryin' like bi*ches. I guess I'd have to be white to relate to someone who disrespects his mother and talks about k!llin' his baby's mom. Like a one-legged man in a a.ss kickin' contest, you can't win dawg.

"Though I'm not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley, to do Black Music so selfishly
and use it to get myself wealthy" -Eminem "Without Me" This be the truest sh*t he ever wrote.

"If I was white and called my momma a bi*ch it wouldn't have took me this long to get this rich, I know." -Ice Cube on "You Gotta Have Heart"

Why does EVERYTHING have to be RACIAL? Do I really have to answer that question?

When I was born I was BLACK,
When I grew up I was BLACK,
When I'm sick I'm BLACK,
When I go in the sun I'm BLACK,
When I'm cold I'm BLACK,
When I die I'll be BLACK.

But you:
When you're born you're PINK,
When you grow up you're WHITE,
When you're sick, you're GREEN,
When you go in the sun you turn RED,
When you're cold you turn BLUE,
and when you die you turn PURPLE.
So...why the hell you callin' me COLORED?

Mexicans pick tomatoes - black people pick cotton - and White people pick them to do it!

 14 years ago '04        #97
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^^^^yea i know they gang up on you faster then mexicans. ooopppssss i sure everyone will say i hate mexicans or i'm stereotyping mexicans

 14 years ago '04        #98
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how many times has this sh*t been talked about since Em first blew up...people dont say you like Elp and Copywrite just cuz they white.....becauze they havent blown up like Em...a white dude makes it to the top of the rap game and gets repect from Jigga Nas Dre Jada..now people say"Oh the only reason people like him iz cuz hez white" Hes one of the only good white rappers in hip hop....I hate Lil Whyte....Its not like white hip hop listeners will jam somebody just cuz they white....thats fu*kin stupid....remember the name Epik....cuz when he blows in a year...its gonna be this thread but with Epiks name instead of Em's

 12-06-2004, 07:27 PM         #99
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ummm okay and why you saying this about eminem? what does eminem have to do with anything? obviously he is one of the best and its eating you alive inside and thats why you created this homos3xual thread.


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 SeanP said
Yo mprnc2000 it's pointless tryin' to explain it to them...I would say that more than half the peeps on this board are Eminem followers, fans, or fanatics. If they hear anything slightly negative about EM they'll gang up on ya. All they will do is try to justify everything he says or do. I've seen it happen before. God forbid somethin' happened to him...white dudes and Oreo cookies would be cryin' like bi*ches. I guess I'd have to be white to relate to someone who disrespects his mother and talks about k!llin' his baby's mom. Like a one-legged man in a a.ss kickin' contest, you can't win dawg.

"Though I'm not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley, to do Black Music so selfishly
and use it to get myself wealthy" -Eminem "Without Me" This be the truest sh*t he ever wrote.

"If I was white and called my momma a bi*ch it wouldn't have took me this long to get this rich, I know." -Ice Cube on "You Gotta Have Heart"

Why does EVERYTHING have to be RACIAL? Do I really have to answer that question?

When I was born I was BLACK,
When I grew up I was BLACK,
When I'm sick I'm BLACK,
When I go in the sun I'm BLACK,
When I'm cold I'm BLACK,
When I die I'll be BLACK.

But you:
When you're born you're PINK,
When you grow up you're WHITE,
When you're sick, you're GREEN,
When you go in the sun you turn RED,
When you're cold you turn BLUE,
and when you die you turn PURPLE.
So...why the hell you callin' me COLORED?

Mexicans pick tomatoes - black people pick cotton - and White people pick them to do it!
Hmmmmmm.....I think the dipset followers,fans,and fanatics outnumber Em's

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