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 02-07-2009, 10:31 AM         #101
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 BlackandGifted said:
I know that, what i was saying is most of America felt the most anger when Bonds hit 715 and surpassed Ruth, there was anger when he passed Aaron but not of the same magnitude as it was once he passed Ruth.
 02-07-2009, 10:31 AM         #102
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Man, you guys realize that griffey would have been the person to cancel out all the steroid talk right? If he would have been healthy and took over as the best hitter ever, the mlb would have had him to bank on as a posterboy for clean mlb players.
 9 years ago '06        #103
BlackandGifted 17 heat pts17 OP
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 beantown85 said:
those dirty yankees
last i checked he was a Ranger in 03' jackass
 02-07-2009, 10:33 AM         #104
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 KrayLay said:
He would have hit AT LEAST 500 HR without them. You call that above average?
theres no way to say when he started using roids. so to say how many he would hit without it is a guess.

he was a great hitter before roids and the greatest after is the point.
 02-07-2009, 10:34 AM         #105
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 U.B.HiRM said:
thats why

vlad>any player..been sayin that for a minute
as far as players who havent been caught vlad is not the best player of this era to not be caught
 02-07-2009, 10:34 AM         #106
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1. The Players Union is going to sue the sh*t out of any and everyone attached to leaking this information.

2. Lets please have the other 102 names... And don't be suprised to see the name "Ortiz".

3. He's still the best player in the game... And the Yankees are winning the World Series this year.

Next?...
 9 years ago '08        #107
RustyLorcin 12 heat pts12
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 KrayLay said:
He would have hit AT LEAST 500 HR without them. You call that above average?
yep he is also close to 3,000 hits i mean like 60-70 hits away
he was stealing 30-40 bases a yr and smashing 40 hrs before steroids
with great defense in the outfield
he was a top 10 player of all time BEFORE the steroids.

Bonds is the best player of this generation
 02-07-2009, 10:34 AM         #108
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 U.B.HiRM said:
thats why

vlad>any player..been sayin that for a minute
Actually, right now, Manny is looking better than anyone.
Imagine he is the only clean big bat in the past couple decades?
I laugh at the thought of him looking better than the players Selig wanted as the face of baseball lol.

But if you look at him on the indians and now, he definitely is a lot bigger.
 9 years ago '06        #109
BlackandGifted 17 heat pts17 OP
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 KrayLay said:
Apparently you dont recall the coverage on espn it was an obvious backlash from certain communities in regard to Bonds surpassing the babe :greetings10:
 9 years ago '04        #110
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 Illstreet said:
1. The Players Union is going to sue the sh*t out of any and everyone attached to leaking this information.

2. Lets please have the other 102 names... And don't be suprised to see the name "Ortiz".

3. He's still the best player in the game... And the Yankees are winning the World Series this year.

Next?...
sh*ts racist
players union didn't do sh*t when bonds testimony leaked out
 02-07-2009, 10:36 AM         #111
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 FlashP3 said:
theres no way to say when he started using roids. so to say how many he would hit without it is a guess.

he was a great hitter before roids and the greatest after is the point.
Most likely the earliest he started was 98. He had around 400 HR then I believe. Anyway you spin it, he was more than an above average HR hitter.
 02-07-2009, 10:37 AM         #112
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 BlackandGifted said:
Apparently you dont recall the coverage on espn it was an obvious backlash from certain communities in regard to Bonds surpassing the babe :greetings10:
And then there was more when he passed Aaron.
 02-07-2009, 10:37 AM         #113
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 RustyLorcin said:
yep he is also close to 3,000 hits i mean like 60-70 hits away
he was stealing 30-40 bases a yr and smashing 40 hrs before steroids
with great defense in the outfield
he was a top 10 player of all time BEFORE the steroids.

Bonds is the best player of this generation
he was not top 10 b4 roids and id still say griff was alittle better in his prime. i dnt believe u can separte the roid bonds from the old bonds you dont know when he started no1 does but him. same with arod clemens and etc. however bonds is the best player ive ever seen i beleive more ppl did roids than didnt so i dnt hold it against anyone.
 02-07-2009, 10:38 AM         #114
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 KrayLay said:
Most likely the earliest he started was 98. He had around 400 HR then I believe. Anyway you spin it, he was more than an above average HR hitter.
above avg= very good right?

and u dont know when he started using you can guess but you dont know. if yall actcually knew about roids and perfomance enhancers ud know that body type does not equal roid use.
 9 years ago '07        #115
TH35 105 heat pts105
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 tommymm96 said:
none of these steroid accusations surprise me anymore
me either... im just going to a.ssume everyone does or did it now
 02-07-2009, 10:40 AM         #116
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 U.B.HiRM said:
its sad...the yankees have some real classy people (jeter, cc, etc) and A-rod since donning the stripes has really took the whole meaning of spotlight to another level whether it was roids, girls, stats, whos playin 3rd

but yeah you could easily say

manny>anyone

and i will go as far as to say manny, vlad, hamiltime
josh?

and id say as of now without getting caught griff, manny, pujols (till he passes them all)
 9 years ago '08        #117
RustyLorcin 12 heat pts12
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Also Bonds before the steroids had back to back 200+ OPS years in the 92-93
let me put it like this Ken Griffey jrs best ops year was 171.. Bonds off years were better than Griffeys best.
not even frank thomas could fu*k with bonds when it came to overall hitting in the 90's
 9 years ago '06        #118
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Bonds is the greatest everyone used steroids he was still better than them
 02-07-2009, 10:44 AM         #119
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ya ive always felt manny and pujols were better hitters than arod. differnce was that arod was gg 3b and ss as well as a sb threat.
 02-07-2009, 10:45 AM         #120
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 Rique said:
Bonds is the greatest everyone used steroids he was still better than them
cosign.
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