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 9 years ago '04        #181
Phillymatic 15 heat pts15
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Soooooooooooooooooooo

Does this mean he runs outta pills when October comes around? Cuz we all know the Yankees could've used A-Roid being the juiceman for them fall classics.
 02-07-2009, 12:00 PM         #182
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 FlashP3 said:
o ya i forgot ur the guy who feels sbs are a more important stat than homers and rbis.

i dnt believe that either of those stats are tell all but sb is a overrated stat as well.
Point out where I said SB are more important than HR. Please. I don't over rate SB. I give them a weight, like every other event.
 02-07-2009, 12:04 PM         #183
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 KrayLay said:
Point out where I said SB are more important than HR. Please. I don't over rate SB. I give them a weight, like every other event.
thinking that bonds was much better than griff because he got more sbs and walks
 9 years ago '05        #184
BurninLz 31 heat pts31
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i knew it


griffey=real homerun king
 02-07-2009, 12:05 PM         #185
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 KrayLay said:
And his stolen bases and stolen base%. Those are the big differences. Bonds also had a higher slg during the 90s.
Bonds was a best on the bases, def better than griffey there.
Bonds had 3 seasons ahead of griffey, not to mention steroids and the seasons griffey got injured. So it's safe to say that he had a great chance of being a better player than bonds, but Bonds did have a better slg in the 90s with about 380 less AB, so he does get the edge there. It sucks that people didn't like bonds as a person, but griffey would have blown bonds out on the hr list.
He would have had a better legacy than bonds.
I wish a team would jump on bonds so he could get to 3000 hits, but they don't want him to.
With the steroids, personality, people just hate bonds. I know it wasn't as clear cut as race (even though race was a factor..ask hank aaron), but when people have reasons to hate a black guy they run with it. We've seen that too much in this country over the years for it not to be true.
 02-07-2009, 12:06 PM         #186
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Bonds had a higher OBP higher SLG more SB and less CS. Yeah. He was better offensively.
 02-07-2009, 12:07 PM         #187
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 KrayLay said:
Bonds had a higher OBP higher SLG more SB and less CS. Yeah. He was better offensively.
Being a base stealer that walked more, that's why he has those stat edges.
Slg % was the clear advantage, but griffey was obviously on his level, you couldn't deny that. It's like comparing arod n Manny
All I'm saying is that griffey, with out the injury seasons, would have been seen as better than bonds, and having a better legacy due to him being more likable and a better media cover.
Anyway, back to arod
My prediction, Arod has a good year anyway. Arods taking up too much of my saturday. Take care ya'll, added some of ya'll to my list of real baseball fans.
:greetings10:


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 02-07-2009, 12:07 PM         #188
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 GrilledCheese said:
Bonds was a best on the bases, def better than griffey there.
Bonds had 3 seasons ahead of griffey, not to mention steroids and the seasons griffey got injured. So it's safe to say that he had a great chance of being a better player than bonds, but Bonds did have a better slg in the 90s with about 380 less AB, so he does get the edge there. It sucks that people didn't like bonds as a person, but griffey would have blown bonds out on the hr list.
He would have had a better legacy than bonds.
I wish a team would jump on bonds so he could get to 3000 hits, but they don't want him to.
With the steroids, personality, people just hate bonds. I know it wasn't as clear cut as race (even though race was a factor..ask hank aaron), but when people have reasons to hate a black guy they run with it. We've seen that too much in this country over the years for it not to be true.
As I've been saying. Bonds was better offensively.
 9 years ago '07        #189
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the worst part about this is now the media is gonna blow this sh*t up forever.
 02-07-2009, 12:15 PM         #190
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 BurninLz said:
i knew it


griffey=real homerun king
i GUESS YOU NEVER HEARD OF HANK AARON?
 02-07-2009, 12:16 PM         #191
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 KrayLay said:
As I've been saying. Bonds was better offensively.
Take away the stolen bases and walks, and how much better is he if at all?
Some could say griffey was better b/c he had more hr's and every other stat was comparable to bonds.
Anyway, the woman who co-wrote the report on arod is gonna be on mlbnetwork in a few minutes, just wanted to let people know
 9 years ago '06        #192
BlackandGifted 17 heat pts17 OP
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I still think Arod is the best player in the game today
 9 years ago '06        #193
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 BurninLz said:
i knew it


griffey=real homerun king
 cpalmer1 said:
i GUESS YOU NEVER HEARD OF HANK AARON?
 9 years ago '04        #194
RoyceDa59 244 heat pts244
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fu*kING A-ROD, I just have one thing to say


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 02-07-2009, 12:22 PM         #195
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(Couldnt stay away lol)
What if bonds was on steroids then, and griffey really never was?
Then whose better offensively?
New info:
Primabolen doesn't make you look much bigger, you retain 80% of your strength when you cycle off of it.
It's easier to cycle out of your system and easy to avoid detection.
So anybody can be exposed now..hmm..
Selena roberts said she doesn't have hard evidence he did before or after 03.
Doug Collins: In theory, anyone knowing the 03 survey was anonymous, could have gone along with the testing, then knowing more serious testing could come may decide to stop.
Selena Roberts agrees.
Doug Collins also mentioned search n seizure violations might have happened, and arods rights as a player and person been violated. hmmm.
Will the govt go down like clemens n bonds now? lol
iight i'm out for reals,

LETS GO YANKS!


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 02-07-2009, 12:22 PM         #196
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 KrayLay said:
As I've been saying. Bonds was better offensively.
when i said griff was the better player u laughed making it seem like bonds is much better than griff. as all around players they are neck and neck. u can give the edge to bonds if u want they are really close ur the only 1 trying to say that bonds was defintely the better player. offensively they were close defensively griff was better considering the positions they play.
 9 years ago '07        #197
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man... i love baseball too much for this sh*t... Its fu*ked up and its make me sad in a way. I almost think we should all just let it go. Quit digging up all this old dirt and except it and move on. It wasnt tested for and MLB knew this sh*t was going on and let it go because it was making them money. So everyone involved should take some sort of responsibility and just move the fu*k on. AND MICHAEL PHELPS IS GETTING HATED ON AND SUSPENDED FOR MARIJUANA USE!!!!!
 02-07-2009, 12:23 PM         #198
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 FlashP3 said:
when i said griff was the better player u laughed making it seem like bonds is much better than griff. as all around players they are neck and neck. u can give the edge to bonds if u want they are really close ur the only 1 trying to say that bonds was defintely the better player. offensively they were close defensively griff was better considering the positions they play.
and bonds could have been on steroids in the 90s
 02-07-2009, 12:25 PM         #199
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i wonder who else tested postive on this test tho.
 02-07-2009, 12:26 PM         #200
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 GrilledCheese said:
(Couldnt stay away lol)
What if bonds was on steroids then, and griffey really never was?
Then whose better offensively?
New info:
Primabolen doesn't make you look much bigger, you retain 80% of your strength when you cycle off of it.
It's easier to cycle out of your system and easy to avoid detection.
So anybody can be exposed now..hmm..
Selena roberts said she doesn't have hard evidence he did before or after 03.
Doug Collins: In theory, anyone knowing the 03 survey was anonymous, could have gone along with the testing, then knowing more serious testing could come may decide to stop.
Selena Roberts agrees.
Doug Collins also mentioned search n seizure violations might have happened, and arods rights as a player and person been violated. hmmm.
Will the govt go down like clemens n bonds now? lol
iight i'm out for reals,

LETS GO YANKS!
exaclty no1 knows when players started using it or when they stopped using it. no1 knows how much it truly helps. sh*t just because griff didnt get caught doesnt mean he didnt use them.
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