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 9 years ago '06        #481
modalee 5 heat pts
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I think Desmond and the hatch exploding has something to do with why he is special
 9 years ago '04        #482
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 modalee81 said:
I think Desmond and the hatch exploding has something to do with why he is special
yeah man bc only after that he was able to see into the future's timeline...
 9 years ago '08        #483
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 Propel Water said:
the lost timeline is easy to understand - You cant change the future, bc its destiny.

destiny and fate play a key role in the show... i used to think that they culd in fact change the future... but im just going have to say that faradays theory is rite as far as we know so far.

the only thing i dont understand is why desmond can change it ie, postponing charlies death
True.

Even Sophocles knew that you couldn't change the future.

Read Oedipus, the King and you'll come to the consensus that fate is inevitable, and attempts to run away from it only lead you to run head long into it.

Same with Charlie. Yeah, his death was postponed, but he still lost and Fate was chalked a W.
 03-24-2009, 09:58 AM         #484
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who else rekons that the show will end with ben k!lling them all and us finding out that the people in the ditch was the oceanic 815 folks all along?

...its a thought.
 9 years ago '05        #485
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 get_ate said:
True.

Even Sophocles knew that you couldn't change the future.

Read Oedipus, the King and you'll come to the consensus that fate is inevitable, and attempts to run away from it only lead you to run head long into it.

Same with Charlie. Yeah, his death was postponed, but he still lost and Fate was chalked a W.

I'm starting to think Faraday was wrong, and they can change how things happened. An example of this would be how Dharmaville is now in ruins when Sun and Frank meet up with Christian...it looks as the Others never occupied it.
 9 years ago '04        #486
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 Truth33 said:
I'm starting to think Faraday was wrong, and they can change how things happened. An example of this would be how Dharmaville is now in ruins when Sun and Frank meet up with Christian...it looks as the Others never occupied it.
the others did occupy it, but then they left for the temple once keamy and his men came in shooting the place up, ben called the smoke monster to destroy them, then keamy blew himself up...s**t just got f**ked up bby all that...


new theory i was thinking of.. the incident that everyone talks about but no one nose what it is. what if the incident is what actully brings them back to the present to sun and lapedius' time. faraday figures something out bc right now hes just in the wind, and they use the power in the swan to get them back to the present
 03-24-2009, 06:36 PM         #487
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What has become of The Others?

I like to imagine they're performing some weird ritualistic dance inside the Temple, with Richard right in the middle wearing pharaoh clothing, and he keeps repeating the lyrics to Walk Like An Egyptian over and over.

But that's just me...
 03-25-2009, 12:58 PM         #488
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i gotta watch last weeks episode again. i cant wait for tonights though
 03-25-2009, 04:57 PM         #489
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The sneak peeks were amazing. I cannot wait to see the scene with Sayid. Bring it on...
 9 years ago '08        #490
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Ok, thanks to another thread, I finally got an idea to where Lost is getting at with the time travel.

The movie 12 Monkeys.
 03-25-2009, 06:39 PM         #491
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When Mikhail is being led out of the Flame, he says that the purge was when DHARMA attacked THEM!

Could the perceived "purge" not be what we saw it to be?

Could all of those dead DHARMA-ites just be victims of an ill-planned a.ssault on the Hostiles???

I do find this very interesting, and I can't wait to find out what really happened.

Here is the Mikhail dialogue from the "Enter 77" transcript:

SAYID: What happened to the DHARMA Initiative?
MIKHAIL: They’re all dead, of course. They foolishly initiated a war against The Hostiles, the purge they called it.
SAYID: How did you survive this purge?
MIKHAIL: By not participating in it. I told you, I like being alone.
SAYID: And the hostiles allowed you to stay here?
MIKHAIL: After it was over, four men appeared in the yard. They offered a truce. They said to imagine a line that extended all the way across the valley. As long as I did not cross it, I would be left alone. Then they took two cows and I never saw them again.
KATE: They weren’t interested in the satellite dish in the yard?
MIKHAIL: Why wouldn’t they be? It hasn’t functioned for years.
SAYID: Who are they, these Hostiles?
MIKHAIL: I do not know. But they were here a long time before we were. A very long time.
 03-25-2009, 06:56 PM         #492
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All the info we have on the Purge so far has come from folks with agendas. I would love a resolution to all the seemingly conflicting info about the Purge:
  • * Ben says that the Purge was not his decision, but rather, it was the decision of the leader of the Hostiles (which cannot be Widmore because he has almost certainly been exiled by this time).
  • * Ben says that he made a decision that caused the Purge.
  • * Mikhail says that the DI initiated the Purge.
  • * Charlotte says Ben has used the Tempest to gas people before.

I can think of a couple scenarios in which all the following statements could all be true, but I'm not completely happy with how they turn the story.
 9 years ago '04        #493
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I guess we are starting to see why Ben became so evil. Nikka is a G!
 9 years ago '08        #494
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only if Ben made his dad a sandwich once in awhile... maybe he'd be a little nicer


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 03-25-2009, 08:02 PM         #495
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TPTB NEVER DISAPPOINT...:jawdrop:
 03-25-2009, 08:03 PM         #496
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my mind exploded in the last minute of that episode
 9 years ago '05        #497
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wtf, this guy aint gonna die somehow??
 03-25-2009, 08:06 PM         #498
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holy s**t
 03-25-2009, 08:06 PM         #499
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 BlaznHizzle said:
wtf, this guy aint gonna die somehow??
maybe jack performs some sorta surgery on him
 9 years ago '05        #500
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Jaw-dropping.

So we know Ben lives from all this. But the promo had a great clue. They said that they caused all of this. So they finally figure out them coming back makes everything happen.

Maybe this is what pisses Ben off. helping people gets him shot. This is why he manipulates all of them because he knows tons more than they do, and knows who needs to live and who needs to die.
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