[Official Thread] Baltimore Ravens @ New York Giants

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 9 years ago '07        #81
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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 OnTheReal said:
The same team that got smacked around by the Browns? fu*k outta here.

Your D made Derek Anderson look great.

Ravens match up great with the Giants.

Ravens by a FG
lol and the ravens got blown thee fu*k out by the colts who then got blown out the following week by a team whose defense im sure u would agree isnt on your teams level, Greenbay

so dont give me that sh*t cuz yall got whooped on as well
 9 years ago '07        #82
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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 24/7foamz said:
its funny giant fans is "cocky" all of a sudden, because they team is successful.i seen skin fans make "skins going to the super bowl" thread after beating the cowboys and eagles.i have yet to see one made by a giant fan,but yet we labeled as "cocky". i hate to say this but the giants are reaching the hate level of the pats and cowboys on here.but i guess when ur squad start having success hate gonna build,it comes with the territory:dancingcool:
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 11-13-2008, 08:59 PM         #83
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 24/7foamz said:
its funny giant fans is "cocky" all of a sudden, because they team is successful.i seen skin fans make "skins going to the super bowl" thread after beating the cowboys and eagles.i have yet to see one made by a giant fan,but yet we labeled as "cocky". i hate to say this but the giants are reaching the hate level of the pats and cowboys on here.but i guess when ur squad start having success hate gonna build,it comes with the territory:dancingcool:
i'm sayin.

i think giants fans are making a point to stay classy after we saw what happened to the pats and how easily the mighty can fall.

yet it's still not enough. the only way we will be considered not c*cky is if we don't celebrate a giants win at all
 11-13-2008, 09:04 PM         #84
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 str8_akademiks said:
And you're getting so hype off this, why?
Is your life that meaningless that you just love to talk sh*t on the internet about who's team is gonna beat who?

Get a life you piece of trash.
Um... Maybe you didn't get the memo... But this is a MESSAGE BOARD?

The point is the post MESSAGES...

And in the case of a Sports Forum, to POST MESSAGES ABOUT SPORTS AND YOUR TEAM...

And so I do it here, like I do in real life...

If we playin the Cowboys, I spend all week tellin my Cowboys fans freinds how we gonna whop dat a.ss... That's what sports fans do?

And for you to act like it ain't, makes you a fu*ken lame...

You are the one who needs to get a life, and get off my nuts for doin sh*t that everybody do. After this game, yall gonna be mad quiet with that chirppin anyway, so I'm cool regardless.

bi*ch.


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 9 years ago '07        #85
24/7foamz 
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 StateZFinest said:
i'm sayin.

i think giants fans are making a point to stay classy after we saw what happened to the pats and how easily the mighty can fall.

yet it's still not enough. the only way we will be considered not c*cky is if we don't celebrate a giants win at all
the hatred is building for us giant fans on this board,i can already see how this board gonna blow up if the giants get bumped out the playoffs i notice soon as a giant fan disagree with another person on they team u labeled as being a c*cky giants fan
 9 years ago '07        #86
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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 24/7foamz said:
the hatred is building for us giant fans on this board,i can already see how this board gonna blow up if the giants get bumped out the playoffs i notice soon as a giant fan disagree with another person on they team u labeled as being a c*cky giants fan
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 9 years ago '04        #87
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 OnTheReal said:
The same team that got smacked around by the Browns? fu*k outta here.

Your D made Derek Anderson look great.

Ravens match up great with the Giants.

Ravens by a FG
and your team is scared of hines ward, fu*k outta here
 9 years ago '07        #88
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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Giants on Offense: The good news for New York is that the Giants have seen quite a few 3-4 defensive teams in recent weeks, including the top-ranked defense in the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers. The bad news is that, like the Steelers, the Ravens are exceptional in defending the run. Indeed, the Ravens are currently #1 in the NFL in run defense, allowing only 65 yards per game. The pass defense, while top 10, is a bit weaker, allowing 193 yards per game. This would seem to suggest that the Giants eschew the run in favor of the passing game, at least early on in the contest.

That might be the smart strategy and the strategy that I would advocate in the past, but this Giants’ offense should not refuse any challenge. The Giants are the #1 rushing attack in the NFL. They have arguably the best offensive line and the deepest group of running backs in the game. Many teams facing the Ravens head into the game believing they will not be able to run the football. The Giants – right or wrong – believe they can run on anyone. No, it will not be pretty. Look to the Steelers’ game as an example. The Giants only rushed for 83 yards in that game. But those 83 yards and 35 rushing plays kept the Steelers’ defense honest. The Steelers did not make the Giants one dimensional that day and the threat of the run helped the passing game. The same will hopefully hold true against the Ravens.

Why are the Ravens so good defensive? It’s simple. Personnel. They are extremely talented in the front seven on defense. Haloti Ngata is 6-4, 345lbs and arguably the best nose tackle in football. He will be a nightmare for OC Shaun O’Hara. If O’Hara has one big weakness, it is dealing with huge, powerful nose tackles. He will need help from the guards. The other two defensive linemen are no slouches either. Left end Trevor Pryce is getting up there in years, but he’s big and can still rush the passer. Right end Jeff Bannan is a plugger who is playing very well. The duty of all three of these men is to tie up the blockers so the active, physical linebackers can make the play. Obviously, the leader of the unit remains LILB Ray Lewis. Love him or hate him, Lewis is a warrior who comes to play each and every Sunday. He’s a physical, intimidating presence who studies his opponent as hard as anyone. RILB Bart Scott is the second-leading tackler on the team and a very underrated player. ROLB Terrell Suggs may be the best of the bunch and is the best rusher of the group. LOLB Jarret Johnson is big and physical. These four are the four top tacklers in the team, just the way you draw it up for a 3-4 defense. Blocking them, and the three down linemen in front of them, on running plays will be a supreme challenge for the Giants’ offensive line, tight ends, and FB Madison Hedgecock.

The secondary of the Ravens is having a down year. LCB Chris McAlister, the team’s best corner, was recently placed on Injured Reserve. RCB Samari Rolle, who will face WR Plaxico Burress, is solid, but not as good as his reputation. Ex-Raider and speedster Fabian Washington will line up at left corner against Amani Toomer. Corey Ivy is the nickel corner. Free safety Ed Reed is an impact player who is having a bit of down season. When at the top of his game, he is an intimidating presence in the secondary against both the run and the pass. The diminutive but over-achieving Jim Leonhard is the strong safety.

It is important for the Giants remain balanced with the run and the pass. That said, it may behoove Kevin Gilbride and Eli Manning to attack the weaker secondary, targeting Ivy in particular. The Ravens could have trouble with the Giants 3- and 4-wide receiver packages.

Once again, this will be a game where Eli Manning will be on the spot. But it’s always that way for a quarterback against a good defense. He needs to minimize mistakes and make plays in the clutch. Most importantly, the Giants need to stop turning the ball over. It’s become a problem in recent weeks. The Ravens feast on turnovers.

Giants on Defense: The Ravens like to run the football. They are third in the NFL in rushing but 18th in yards per rush. That demonstrates their commitment to the running game. With a rookie (albeit impressive) quarterback, the game plan is clear. Stop the run. Put the onus on the young quarterback to beat you.

The Ravens have a very solid offensive line. LT Jared Gaither is massive and a good athlete for his size. LG Ben Grubbs is a former first-round pick. OC Jason Brown is big and strong. The right side is not as strong with RG Chris Chester and RT Willie Anderson (Anderson has been battling an ankle injury). If Anderson can’t go, Adam Terry will replace him. Obviously, the Giants’ defensive line and linebackers need to play stout up front against the power running attack with Willis McGahee being the feature back. But very much unlike most teams, the Ravens will also employ their fullback as a ball carrier. 260-pound FB/H-Back LeRon McClain has almost 100 carries on the season. He will line up at halfback and is the Ravens’ goal line/short-yardage specialist. Rookie HB Ray Rice has proven to be the big-play reserve.

Linebacker and safety coverage on Pro Bowl TE Todd Heap will be crucial. The Ravens will also throw to their backs (Rice is third on the team in receptions, McClain fifth, and McGahee sixth). The Giants will have to be careful of screen passes in particular. Also, be on the lookout for misdirection and gadget plays.

The Ravens’ leading receiver, Derrick Mason, has a painful shoulder injury. He is not expected to practice all week, but says he may play. The other starting wideout is Mark Clayton. Yamon Figurs is now the third receiver. He can get deep.

The real key is stopping the running game. If the Giants can make the Ravens’ one-dimensional, the Ravens should have trouble moving the ball provided the Giants keep Heap in check. The Ravens don’t have a lot of offensive weapons that scare you in the passing game. Pressure the rookie quarterback and give him a lot of different looks in the secondary. Hopefully, the Giants’ offense doesn’t turn the ball over and provide the Ravens with a short field.

Giants on Special Teams: Yamon Figurs in the primary punt and kick returner. The Giants need to do a better job on kickoffs and kickoff coverage and not provide the Ravens’ offense with a short field. The Giants’ own kickoff return game remains anemic. Hopefully, Ahmad Bradshaw breaks one soon. Domenik Hixon broke off a big punt return last weekend.
 9 years ago '05        #89
BlaznHizzle|M 3 heat pts OP
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36 hours away..




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 9 years ago '05        #90
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LITTLE FALLS, N.J. -- New York Giants offensive tackle Kareem McKenzie was charged with drunken driving after a traffic stop Thursday night.

McKenzie was stopped after he cut through a gas station lot at about 9:30 p.m., said Little Falls police Lt. Salvatore Calafiore. A Breathalyzer test found McKenzie's blood-alcohol level was above New Jersey's legal limit of 0.08. He was taken to police headquarters and released later that night, Calafiore said.

In a statement issued by the Giants on Friday afternoon after McKenzie had left the stadium, the lineman expressed remorse about the incident.

"I am prepared to deal with the consequences of that situation from both a legal standpoint and as a player in the National Football League," McKenzie said.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin said the team was aware of the arrest and had spoken with McKenzie. He did not address if it would affect McKenzie's status for Sunday's game against the Baltimore Ravens.

"The legal process will take its course, and the league will handle this matter," Coughlin said. "Nobody will be harder on Kareem than Kareem himself. He is very conscientious and has been a first-class citizen since he arrived here with our organization."

A New Jersey native, he was drafted out of Penn State in the third round by the New York Jets in 2001 and signed with the Giants as a free agent in 2005.
what a waste.. this sh*t happened a town away from me too..




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 11-14-2008, 10:50 PM         #91
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pretty good analysis.^^^

its gonna be a good one. even some of my fellow ravens fans arent expecting much. not me. on the contrary, i think we have a good shot. im just worried about the secondary.
 9 years ago '05        #92
Micheal C. Will 18 heat pts18
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 BlaznHizzle said:
what a waste.. this sh*t happened a town away from me too..

sh*t happens.....
 9 years ago '05        #93
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 ill800 said:
pretty good analysis.^^^

its gonna be a good one. even some of my fellow ravens fans arent expecting much. not me. on the contrary, i think we have a good shot. im just worried about the secondary.
I have confidence that we can win this game, but I'm going to let it play out first....
 9 years ago '07        #94
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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i just heard the giants were practicing the wildcat formation having moss, hixon, and mcquarters line up as qb

at first they were doing it to practice for the ravens doing but now i heard they might use it throughout the course of the game
 11-15-2008, 09:08 AM         #95
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 Syphernix said:
i just heard the giants were practicing the wildcat formation having moss, hixon, and mcquarters line up as qb

at first they were doing it to practice for the ravens doing but now i heard they might use it throughout the course of the game
you see what happened when miami ran the wildcat offense against us? that sh*t aint happenin son
 9 years ago '07        #96
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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 ill800 said:
you see what happened when miami ran the wildcat offense against us? that sh*t aint happenin son
i doubt they actually use it in the game, but just hearing they considering it makes me :angry12: we dont need to do any gimmick type plays
 9 years ago '07        #97
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 Syphernix said:
i just heard the giants were practicing the wildcat formation having moss, hixon, and mcquarters line up as qb

at first they were doing it to practice for the ravens doing but now i heard they might use it throughout the course of the game
 9 years ago '06        #98
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Wait what?

The Giants are gonna bust open a Wildcat formation which theyve never ran in a game against a Defense that shut that sh*t the fu*k down AMAZINGLY?

I have a hard time believing that, hit me w/ a legit link to that... Something NY Daily News/Post related



Giants need to keep it simple, run the ball & open the pass up because you can throw on deep on Baltimore, Id take shots deep on 6-7 different occasions AT LEAST... send Plax, Hixon etc. on deep routes just like Houston was doing w/ Andre Johnson last week

Im tired of typing & Im bout to leave or else Id drop more


Im going for the Ravens obv. but I think the Giants win a close one.
 9 years ago '05        #99
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I dont mind the wildcat formation as long as they only do it once. It's only one play, I don't care how well Baltimore shut it down last time you can do so many different things with it.
 9 years ago '07        #100
Syphernix 9 heat pts
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 eLLz said:
Wait what?

The Giants are gonna bust open a Wildcat formation which theyve never ran in a game against a Defense that shut that sh*t the fu*k down AMAZINGLY?

I have a hard time believing that, hit me w/ a legit link to that... Something NY Daily News/Post related



Giants need to keep it simple, run the ball & open the pass up because you can throw on deep on Baltimore, Id take shots deep on 6-7 different occasions AT LEAST... send Plax, Hixon etc. on deep routes just like Houston was doing w/ Andre Johnson last week

Im tired of typing & Im bout to leave or else Id drop more


Im going for the Ravens obv. but I think the Giants win a close one.
its on giants.com

on a weekly programs called hard hits with sammy knight and danny clark

they mainly said they already practiced against it using mainly mcquarters, also having hixon and moss do some things, they didnt say they were absolutely gonna do it, they just said that they have players that can do the same and its not completely outta the question
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