TONIGHT! Joe Calzaghe vs. Roy Jones jr (HBO ppv)

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 9 years ago '07        #401
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 r.burgundy said:
chad dawson

jonhson=old/decent
tarver=old/washed

so who has dawson beat to even be mentioned for a f!ght?
so he shud f!ght hopkins??(borefest) and u cant f!ght any of the big guns nowadays cus no one wants to f!ght an up and coming f!ghter....ask margarito and cotto...they pretty much bullied there way in....politics as usual

 RicFlair said:
who should he have fought?
not quite sure who was note worthy then but after he got his title he was pullin sucker moves and not wanting to f!ght outside the UK...Im sure there were more formidable and noteworthy foes to f!ght but they didnt want to go to the UK
 11-09-2008, 12:45 AM         #402
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 r.burgundy said:
joe c was up an comin in tha 90's.there was no call for him to f!ght anybody ova here in tha states.tha big guy ova there at tha time was darious michalkski.but he wouldnt f!ght ova here.him an roy could neva come to terms on a location.an hopkins just recently started f!ghtin above 160,an toney was long gone by tha time joe c,had become to be a name f!ghter.
Joe was born in 1972. His era should've been in the 90s. Not 2000s.

Joe won his first title in 1997. By the end of that decade he should have at the very least fought the top europeans who wanted Roy to go to their home towns. Such as Dariusz, Adamek, Ottke, and whoever else from middleweight to cruiserweight.

You are no longer 'up-and-coming', when you have a world title.
 11-09-2008, 12:59 AM         #403
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i told u n*ggas that jones was gonna get floored....now the xecutioner is gonna smash anybody who crosses his path...
 9 years ago '08        #404
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I hope he doesn't plan on going up against B.Hopkins.
 11-09-2008, 01:08 AM         #405
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my honest opinion tho...hopkins is that n*gga so i feel if its jones he is gettin off in that a.ss easy...but calzaghe v. hopkins crazy battle
 9 years ago '07        #406
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 Ace McCloud said:
Joe was born in 1972. His era should've been in the 90s. Not 2000s.

Joe won his first title in 1997. By the end of that decade he should have at the very least fought the top europeans who wanted Roy to go to their home towns. Such as Dariusz, Adamek, Ottke, and whoever else from middleweight to cruiserweight.

You are no longer 'up-and-coming', when you have a world title.
only guy callin for a roy f!ght was darius

joe didnt become a major name till he beat jeff lacy
thats not true.belts are alot easier to come by in these times.look at andre berto,or juan manuel lopez.only guy out that group that joe shoulda fought was seven ottke an 7 turned that f!ght down.
 9 years ago '07        #407
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 r a n c i d said:
Boxing isn't dead. It's as alive as it ever was.

The difference is you Yanks reign on top is over. You fail in pretty much every division.

So in your minds its dead and you're all hopping over to MMA because you're the only twats competing in it.

Check yurself.
this kids a clown. why even reply to some retarded sh*t like this?

@ boxing being as alive as it ever was. bring me a young Mike against any european dude u throw out there and lets see what happens

how u gona say boxing as alive as it ever was when Calzaghes last two contenders against him were 40 year olds? cmon son think about what your sayin

im not sayin Calzaghes garbage but stop acting like hes a fu*kin GOAT son ur in here talkin about americans are bitter. no. anyone with a brain knows the f!ghters he just beat are past their prime


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 11-09-2008, 01:49 AM         #408
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 r.burgundy said:
only guy callin for a roy f!ght was darius

joe didnt become a major name till he beat jeff lacy
thats not true.belts are alot easier to come by in these times.look at andre berto,or juan manuel lopez.only guy out that group that joe shoulda fought was seven ottke an 7 turned that f!ght down.
I wonder, how long have you followed boxing?

His name is 'Dariusz'. Dariusz wanted Roy to go to europe. Just because Roy didn't think he should have to go to Germany, didn't mean that Calzaghe couldn't.

The names of the other f!ghters I mentioned were all talked about during Roy's reign at 175. You can also add to that list Graciano Rocchigiani. Some of it was media some of it was from f!ghters. Regardless, they were all talked about.

Outside of James Toney, Tito Trinidad, and Joe Calzaghe, Roy didn't f!ght 'major names'. He fought a lot of good f!ghters but not major names. So why would Calzaghe need to be a major name to try and get sensible f!ghts?

Titles are not 'easier' to come by. The way Andre Berto won his title, is the same way Joe Calzaghe won his first title. The title was vacated. They both fought against guys who were not the champ to win a title who belonged to no one.

For the record, his name is not 'Seven' Ottke. His name is SVEN Ottke.


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 11-09-2008, 01:58 AM         #409
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 INF4MOUS said:
this kids a clown. why even reply to some retarded sh*t like this?

@ boxing being as alive as it ever was. bring me a young Mike against any european dude u throw out there and lets see what happens

how u gona say boxing as alive as it ever was when Calzaghes last two contenders against him were 40 year olds? cmon son think about what your sayin

im not sayin Calzaghes garbage but stop acting like hes a fu*kin GOAT son ur in here talkin about americans are bitter. no. anyone with a brain knows the f!ghters he just beat are past their prime

Yea, boxing is dead. The f!ghters just are not as good as they used to be.

If you look at the biggest f!ghts in the past few years, it's been has-been after has-been. Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Tito Trinidad. These are the guys who have dominated the headlines and drew the most excitement.

Sadly, there is no new Tyson in the heavyweight division. There is no new insanely gifted athlete like Roy Jones Jr. There is no new wise, crafty f!ghter like Hopkins. There is no new technically perfectly boxer like Floyd Mayweather Jr. There is no new tactician like James Toney. There is no new defensive genius like Pernell Whitaker.

Once Oscar retires, it's probably over. All f!ghts will have to be on free tv. f!ghters will have to go back tof!ghting 5-6 times a year.
 9 years ago '07        #410
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 Ace McCloud said:
Yea, boxing is dead. The f!ghters just are not as good as they used to be.

If you look at the biggest f!ghts in the past few years, it's been has-been after has-been. Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Tito Trinidad. These are the guys who have dominated the headlines and drew the most excitement.

Sadly, there is no new Tyson in the heavyweight division. There is no new insanely gifted athlete like Roy Jones Jr. There is no new wise, crafty f!ghter like Hopkins. There is no new technically perfectly boxer like Floyd Mayweather Jr. There is no new tactician like James Toney. There is no new defensive genius like Pernell Whitaker.

Once Oscar retires, it's probably over. All f!ghts will have to be on free tv. f!ghters will have to go back tof!ghting 5-6 times a year.

the sad truth

can only hope for a beast to emerge
 9 years ago '07        #411
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 Ace McCloud said:
I wonder, how long have you followed boxing?

His name is 'Dariusz'. Dariusz wanted Roy to go to europe. Just because Roy didn't think he should have to go to Germany, didn't mean that Calzaghe couldn't.

The names of the other f!ghters I mentioned were all talked about during Roy's reign at 175. You can also add to that list Graciano Rocchigiani. Some of it was media some of it was from f!ghters. Regardless, they were all talked about.

Outside of James Toney, Tito Trinidad, and Joe Calzaghe, Roy didn't f!ght 'major names'. He fought a lot of good f!ghters but not major names. So why would Calzaghe need to be a major name to try and get sensible f!ghts?

Titles are not 'easier' to come by. The way Andre Berto won his title, is the same way Joe Calzaghe won his first title. The title was vacated. They both fought against guys who were not the champ to win a title who belonged to no one.

For the record, his name is not 'Seven' Ottke. His name is SVEN Ottke.
i been followin boxin a long time an there are more belts in this day than ever b4.i dont follow euro's to much.only 1 i was eva interested in was dariusz.im more interested now,i really like kessler.but roy refused to f!ght ova seas due to that olympic scandal an darius refused to come ova here.but dariusz ended up losing to julio gonzalez so that was a mute point anyway.

graciano sued tha wbc to get a title i think,or somethin to that effect.dont remember tha exact details.this was a few years ago.

roy was 1 of tha biggest names an drwas in boxing.joe c didnt get recognized ova here til he destroyed lacy.an that still doesnt change tha fact that jones hadnt fought at super middle since james toney.there was just no demand for joe c to f!ght anybody ova here
 11-09-2008, 03:41 AM         #412
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lets see
roy jones made a career out of f!ghting nobodies, he someone who barely fit the mold of a 'somebody' (Tarver) and well all know what happened....
he should go back to f!ghting nobodies....but then again the same sh*t might happen that happened with that nobody that beat him twice.....
i was kinda hoping he could pull this one out so b hop could whoop his a.ss
but oh well.....
and b hop would whoop calzage id give him props if he knocked out b hop or something but sh*t he barely won
eh
 9 years ago '04        #413
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waiting 4the winky paul williams f!ght, then after that i will resume my retirement of boxing
 9 years ago '06        #414
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kimbo slice could b boxing's savior if he jumped ship from mma to boxing now that elitexc is no more.
 11-09-2008, 07:45 AM         #415
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 r a n c i d said:
Which is what you Americans said about Lacy, and what you said about Hopkins, and what you said about Kessler, and what before the f!ght you were saying about jones.

And what you were saying about Pavlik before he was found out by an old man to be another overhyped 1 dimensional nobody.

Give it up. You don't know boxing if you think Dawson is a contender


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 11-09-2008, 07:47 AM         #416
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Three yanks couldnt beat a slapper
 9 years ago '04        #417
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When I went to vote on last nights f!ght, I was the first one to pick Calazaghe, and there were 10 for Roy.

What the fu*k were you dudes thinking

What did you guys see in Roy's last 10 f!ghts, that would make you think he could beat a guy who throws 100 plus punches a round?

[code]Calzaghe WON! 6 19.35%
JR 25 80.65%[/code]

Roy isn't B Hop. He depended on speed, and he lost that five years ago.


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 9 years ago '05        #418
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 Mega said:
When I went to vote on last nights f!ght, I was the first one to pick Calazaghe, and there were 10 for Roy.

What the fu*k were you dudes thinking

What did you guys see in Roy's last 10 f!ghts, that would make you think he could beat a guy who throws 100 plus punches a round?

[code]Calzaghe WON! 6 19.35%
JR 25 80.65%[/code]

Roy isn't B Hop. He depended on speed, and he lost that five years ago.
yea, i was one of those 6 who voted for Calzaghe.. Not sure why anyone would think Jones would be the first to beat this guy..




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 9 years ago '06        #419
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<<<<<<<<<<<<< was one of the 6 also, i couldnt believe so many ppl were picking roy
 9 years ago '07        #420
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 pothead said:
Three yanks couldnt beat a slapper


Roy Jones is 4-3 in his last 7 f!ghts. wtf are u talkin about? u act like Jones was any good
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