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 9 years ago '07        #21
r.burgundy 16 heat pts16
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 RAZAH CUTS said:
I was screaming on many lil' white suburban kids 4 or 5 years ago when that lil' fad of rocking a too tight smedium T-shirt with Che's image on the front was at it's height.....

I've researched Che's life and trust me he is no one to admire.....people equate his image with revolution---I equate it with a spoiled and priveledged kid who could've used his skills to save lives, but instead, just eventually became a mad doctor, who performed many atrocities on his loyal soldiers in the mountains of Cuba.....he was a cold blooded murderer who played judge, jury and executrioner and nothing more than one of Fidel Castro's many agents of destruction.....

truthfully though if we are gonna call out Hova and all the idiotic yuppies that were rocking Che shirts heavy back in the day we also have to talk about the cats from the hood who were committing acts of "fashion ignorance" as well.....

I remember seeing many cats that was supposedly "Hip-Hop" just a few years ago rockin shirts with guys like Al Capone, Pablo Escobar, Manuel Norieaga, and whoever else was infamous back in the day, on the front of them.....totally ignorant of the fact that these men had committed a tremendous amount of crimes and in many ways contributed to the reasons why black folks had certain substances riddling their neighborhoods with addiction, violent crime and cycles of hoplessness.....

In the end many Americans just jump on any trend these days if their favorite celebrity is doing it, be it fashion, cosmetic surgery or whatever.....Americans don't think for themselves enough and they've stopped demanding more from their counter culture sub-groups....it used to be that all the hip, liberal kids really were all very well read and were always up to speed on what time it really was....nowadays we just have a bunch of posing a.ss, lonely muthafu*kas that wanna seem deep or wanna shock people, or wanna latch on to a certain lifestyle that they see their favorite actor or actress displaying and they decide to throw on a T-shirt that has a symbolic meaning to it, but the only problem is these fake a.ss muthafu*kas don't know what that meaning really is, or even worse they don't care to know......
what did u read on che?im guessin u think every1 who opposes tha U.S is evil an dictator.che is no different from malcom x,nat turner,or marcus garvey.anybody wit a brain and a heart to match knows that,u dont get change thru peace,an soldiers are a sacrifice for any general.i've seen conflictin reports about his murderous spree,and i really dont care wether they are true or not.dude stood for somethin,and was willing to get on a front line an die for it.which is much more than u can say for obama,these politicians who send our bruhs,an sisters to war,those who wage war,an tha pus*ys who carry it out cause they are ordered.wether u beleive in what che stood for is irrelevant.he deserves tha repsect an praise for puttin his life on tha line for somethin he believed in.and if people had an ounce of his spirit an heart,then we wouldnt be in this mess today.

threadstarter clearly just wants to bash jay-z for whateva reason.did it eva dawn on u jay might know all there is to know about che?mos def wears che shirts,nas wears che shirts.where is tha hate for them?jay is 1 of tha most well spoken rappers in this buisness,an came from tha bottom to tha top.he should be inspiration to u a**holes,especially poor minorities,to show u what u can have if u neva settle.sh*t like this is why it will neva matter who is in a office.cause just aint no pleasin some people.just cause u,an not u per say,are ignant on a subject,dont a.ssume every1 else is.money = access.an jay has more access than any googleologist on this board.
 9 years ago '05        #22
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 Big Hommie 85 said:
you are one stupid bastard!!! how many n*ggas went from marcy projects to multi millions compared to the amount of n*ggas from marcy to the grave or jail or drugs??? this n*ggas grandparents couldnt even attend the same schools or drink from the same fountains as white ppl, same country where n*ggas are plottin to k!ll obama, cuz hes black! i could go on and on, but i'll stop right there! fu*k this country, this n*gga dont owe nobody sh*t!!!
you type in big yellow letters...your a homo
 9 years ago '08        #23
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 Big Hommie 85 said:
you are one stupid bastard!!! how many n*ggas went from marcy projects to multi millions compared to the amount of n*ggas from marcy to the grave or jail or drugs??? this n*ggas grandparents couldnt even attend the same schools or drink from the same fountains as white ppl, same country where n*ggas are plottin to k!ll obama, cuz hes black! i could go on and on, but i'll stop right there! fu*k this country, this n*gga dont owe nobody sh*t!!!
U r very right about the last potion of ur comment..... but truth be said this is the only country u can come from nothing and be something.... my parents aint from here but they came here from africa for a better life..... where parents are from they wouldnt dare make funny of the president like they do in those directv commericals.... yea our country is fu*ked up but other countries are worse son.....
 11-01-2008, 07:13 AM         #24
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Thread starter is an idiot. The person who wrote that article is as well.

A lot of people just look at things on the surface. That's why I'm a fan of Jay. He says and does a lot of things that have a lot of meaning behind them, but seems like something else on the surface.
 11-01-2008, 07:16 AM         #25
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 shush456 said:
U r very right about the last potion of ur comment..... but truth be said this is the only country u can come from nothing and be something.... my parents aint from here but they came here from africa for a better life..... where parents are from they wouldnt dare make funny of the president like they do in those directv commericals.... yea our country is fu*ked up but other countries are worse son.....
how is that true? id say thats true of most modern capitalist nations.
 9 years ago '05        #26
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 big hommie 85 said:
you are one stupid bastard!!! How many n*ggas went from marcy projects to multi millions compared to the amount of n*ggas from marcy to the grave or jail or drugs??? This n*ggas grandparents couldnt even attend the same schools or drink from the same fountains as white ppl, same country where n*ggas are plottin to k!ll obama, cuz hes black! I could go on and on, but i'll stop right there! Fu*k this country, this n*gga dont owe nobody sh*t!!!
r.o.c
 9 years ago '04        #27
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fu*k Jay Z if you're voting for Obama because he told you to you're an idiot. Hank Williams Jr. is a racist so i guess everyone that votes for McCain because of him is a racist as well. This has nothing to do with the election, this is just another example of a Republican that has nothing else to talk about. Oh I forgot that America has never done anyting wrong. America never rounded up Japanese people and put them into camps during World War II. America didn't test it's weapons of mass destrution against Japanese people in Hiroshima. America didn't test it's guns against the people in the Philipines. John McCain didn't get captured in Hanoy a place that had no military facilities what so ever. America didn't cause the complete distruction of the Chiliean gov't. America didn't try to over throw a sitting president in Venezuela. America didn't use depleted uranium against the Iraqis in the first Gulf War. America didn't use white phosphorus against Iraqis in Falujia 2004. America isn't using slave labor right now as we speak. Friedmans teachings and the conservative movement haven't bankrupted the entire country of Iceland. Trickle down economics haven't put the world's markets on its head right now. America's policies haven't slaughtered and butchered millions of people throughout the world through generations. I keep forgetting that America is a saint and has never done anything to anyone.
 9 years ago '05        #28
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Damn guess they were right...If U hate Imperialism, If U Hate Capitalism, If U hate great horrors that the govt has done in the name of American's Freedom...U hate america...Damn I guess if U're family is a bunch of drug addicts, murderers and thieves u should never try and get them better.

Seemingly if i tell my people "We're F*#@ing up and we need to fix this"
I must be anti family....

I really hate Nationalism, nuttin but seperation tactics...I Love America, I do not love the American Govt., I donot love the Rich who trample the people who are this counjtry only to get richer and more powerful, only to continue a string of trampling to money and power....So then what does it mean if U love Americans but not the ones who oppress Americans???

Maybe that makes me a sellout...Il sell my soul for the people b4 any established bank or govt.

But thats just me, caring about life more than corporations must make me anti american.

Just like Obama is "A Socialist" For supporting Ideals that benefit those in need, funny thing when mccain supported this same idea (Only to benefit the rich)in 2001 and was accussed of socialism, he was easily able to deny that this was the case actually i believe he said "When you reach a certain level of comfort. There's nothing wrong with paying more.."

Funny thing about socialism, Socialist moves have been supported by....Adam Smith (Founder of capitalism, who was quoted as saying that its only right that those more wel off, pay more taxes) Dwight Eisenhower, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon and of Course Jon "I Hate Socialism unless its on my side" Mccain.

Guess thats why there are so many govt agents on this site trying to promote for their beloved governing body:greetings10:
 9 years ago '04        #29
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 Doe Stacks said:
Damn guess they were right...If U hate Imperialism, If U Hate Capitalism, If U hate great horrors that the govt has done in the name of American's Freedom...U hate america...Damn I guess if U're family is a bunch of drug addicts, murderers and thieves u should never try and get them better.

Seemingly if i tell my people "We're F*#@ing up and we need to fix this"
I must be anti family....

I really hate Nationalism, nuttin but seperation tactics...I Love America, I do not love the American Govt., I donot love the Rich who trample the people who are this counjtry only to get richer and more powerful, only to continue a string of trampling to money and power....So then what does it mean if U love Americans but not the ones who oppress Americans???

Maybe that makes me a sellout...Il sell my soul for the people b4 any established bank or govt.

But thats just me, caring about life more than corporations must make me anti american.

Just like Obama is "A Socialist" For supporting Ideals that benefit those in need, funny thing when mccain supported this same idea (Only to benefit the rich)in 2001 and was accussed of socialism, he was easily able to deny that this was the case actually i believe he said "When you reach a certain level of comfort. There's nothing wrong with paying more.."

Funny thing about socialism, Socialist moves have been supported by....Adam Smith (Founder of capitalism, who was quoted as saying that its only right that those more wel off, pay more taxes) Dwight Eisenhower, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon and of Course Jon "I Hate Socialism unless its on my side" Mccain.

Guess thats why there are so many govt agents on this site trying to promote for their beloved governing body:greetings10:
You can't use facts, they have a liberal bias. You have to use distraction and lies that usually moves the race the right way. Oh and make sure u acuse your oponent of doing something you do yourself.
 9 years ago '06        #30
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You guys are missing the point, he is trying to equate che to barack obama.. He's just using jay-z as a catalyst...
 9 years ago '04        #31
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 510FlO said:
You guys are missing the point, he is trying to equate che to barack obama.. He's just using jay-z as a catalyst...
WE know this like I said they have nothing else to talk about. They are just like there nominee nothing to offer at all. If you have nothing to offer you try to bring your opponent down and drag him through the mud.
 9 years ago '04        #32
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 P. Dedos said:
spanish people do not back mccain and the muthafu*kas that do are fu*kin morons..... its mostly dumbass cubans that do


mccain dosent give a fu*k about hispanics
The Republican party has become the "White Nationalist" Party. They don't care about anyone but the rich and white. Don't believe me name the amount of people of color that they have in the House or Senate. To make it easy for you there is one man of color in the Senate for the Republicans and one from the Democratic party. The house you'll have to look up yourself trust me it won't surprise you that they have very little representation on that side of the isle.
 9 years ago '04        #33
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do u guys not see jay-z in this n*ggas avatar?

and the sh*t is a hot picture. thats why he wore the shirts lol
 9 years ago '05        #34
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 r.burgundy said:
what did u read on che?im guessin u think every1 who opposes tha U.S is evil an dictator.che is no different from malcom x,nat turner,or marcus garvey.anybody wit a brain and a heart to match knows that,u dont get change thru peace,an soldiers are a sacrifice for any general.i've seen conflictin reports about his murderous spree,and i really dont care wether they are true or not.dude stood for somethin,and was willing to get on a front line an die for it.which is much more than u can say for obama,these politicians who send our bruhs,an sisters to war,those who wage war,an tha pus*ys who carry it out cause they are ordered.wether u beleive in what che stood for is irrelevant.he deserves tha repsect an praise for puttin his life on tha line for somethin he believed in.and if people had an ounce of his spirit an heart,then we wouldnt be in this mess today.

threadstarter clearly just wants to bash jay-z for whateva reason.did it eva dawn on u jay might know all there is to know about che?mos def wears che shirts,nas wears che shirts.where is tha hate for them?jay is 1 of tha most well spoken rappers in this buisness,an came from tha bottom to tha top.he should be inspiration to u a**holes,especially poor minorities,to show u what u can have if u neva settle.sh*t like this is why it will neva matter who is in a office.cause just aint no pleasin some people.just cause u,an not u per say,are ignant on a subject,dont a.ssume every1 else is.money = access.an jay has more access than any googleologist on this board.
soldiers r putting their life on the line for something they believe in right now. dont they deserve the same respect?
instead of being quick to call che a great person, thank some people that are actually doing something for u in ur life today.
 9 years ago '04        #35
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 MATIX said:
soldiers r putting their life on the line for something they believe in right now. dont they deserve the same respect?
instead of being quick to call che a great person, thank some people that are actually doing something for u in ur life today.
Soldiers are putting their life on the line for corporate America. They put their life on the line for their fellow soldiers. They f!ghtr for each other and they f!ght because they took an oath. They f!ght becuase they need college moeny. They f!ght because they have no job and that is the only way out. They fuight because they are th only bread winner in their entire family. They f!ght because they have no education besides high school. I'm a Vet who did 2 tours of Iraq and a tour in Afghanistan I fought because it was an obligation in my contract. I love America and i respect those who came before me. I left becuase of what I saw and what i did because of this corupt club that we call gov't.
 9 years ago '04        #36
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I'm starting to think people like being fcuked in the arse on a daily basis. Have fun school girls.
 9 years ago '08        #37
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Che is a fu*king legend and anyone who doesnt understand can fu*k off...ppl act like the powers that be arent fascits that dont give a fu*k about us..making a living off the clandescant empire... cripping small developin countries by crazy loans and eventually privatizing all there resources..fu*k THAT sh*t

I wish we had someone wit a 10th of the revolutionairy power of Che, thats y the CIA murked him so the corruption can continue..fu*k outta here
 9 years ago '07        #38
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 r.burgundy said:
what did u read on che?im guessin u think every1 who opposes tha U.S is evil an dictator.che is no different from malcom x,nat turner,or marcus garvey.anybody wit a brain and a heart to match knows that,u dont get change thru peace,an soldiers are a sacrifice for any general.i've seen conflictin reports about his murderous spree,and i really dont care wether they are true or not.dude stood for somethin,and was willing to get on a front line an die for it.which is much more than u can say for obama,these politicians who send our bruhs,an sisters to war,those who wage war,an tha pus*ys who carry it out cause they are ordered.wether u beleive in what che stood for is irrelevant.he deserves tha repsect an praise for puttin his life on tha line for somethin he believed in.and if people had an ounce of his spirit an heart,then we wouldnt be in this mess today.

threadstarter clearly just wants to bash jay-z for whateva reason.did it eva dawn on u jay might know all there is to know about che?mos def wears che shirts,nas wears che shirts.where is tha hate for them?jay is 1 of tha most well spoken rappers in this buisness,an came from tha bottom to tha top.he should be inspiration to u a**holes,especially poor minorities,to show u what u can have if u neva settle.sh*t like this is why it will neva matter who is in a office.cause just aint no pleasin some people.just cause u,an not u per say,are ignant on a subject,dont a.ssume every1 else is.money = access.an jay has more access than any googleologist on this board.
::applause::applause::applause::applause:
 9 years ago '04        #39
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well, i'm glad, like 99% of this site's members, that music (or anything else related to entertainment), does not effect my vote for a presidential candidate. :dancingcool:

because, after all...

...it's entertainment, people.
 11-01-2008, 11:03 AM         #40
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Well first of all, if you get your political advice from celebrities your jus plain stupid. I mean Jay-Z is cool in my book and I'm glad to see him supporting his candidate, but he's a entertainer, he has no expertise in politics so you shouldnt be givin too much thought to anything he says about the campaign anyway.


Second of all, Jay-Z was only mentioned once in the entire article, but you like so many other Conservative Republicans completely twisted the entire thing to make it fit your agenda.

You took an article about El Che, chopped and screwed it to make it into a hate speech about Jay-Z and Obama.

If anyone is politically ignorant its you, get a hobby n*gga.
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