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 10-30-2008, 02:15 PM         #81
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Just incase any Republicans were wondering the independent view on this, 250k is rich. I live on 12k, so yeah, it is rich.
 10-30-2008, 05:11 PM         #82
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 famoussasjohn said:
apparently you dont listen to obama then, he says anyone making over 250k or more will be taxed, so yes that will be athletes. i dont know why they arent saying sh*t, but they will be getting taxed. its because people are blind as fu*k to see what he is saying. the howard stern interviews he had with people walking on the street said it all. people they interviewed were mainly voting for obama just because he was a black man.
they took mccaines policies and said so how do you think of sarah palin being obamas VP, and the idiots said oh thats a great choice, i stand by him on that one"
I know what Obamas tax plan is... I know whose going to pay more taxes... But you proved my point.. The reason why athletes and other rich folks aint complaining, is because they know they can pay it. And it wont hurt them. That's first of all. Taking interviews from the Howard Stern show serious, shows that you clearly have no idea whats going on in the world. Howard Stern.. You bring up HOWARD STERN? Of all fu*king people. To be used as credible source on picking the next president of the United States. The only time Howard Sterns opinion or ideas or input would be remotely credible is if i was going to buy a pr0n flick.

no one ever said obama was going to take the money from the taxing of the rich to give it to black people, your just trying to cause sh*t.
Its kind of what you were trying to spew, when you said... see below.


how is he greedy when with obamas plan, it will have his money that he worked his a.ss off for, being handed down to lower class people. how is that fair? sh*t i might as well quit my job when obama gets elected. then i can reap the benefits from the rich people.
^^ You said that!
 10 years ago '04        #83
ggfresh 15 heat pts15
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Remember the saying the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Now heres ur chance America to change that just vote Obama
 10 years ago '04        #84
famoussasjohn 17 heat pts17
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 A.O.™ said:
I know what Obamas tax plan is... I know whose going to pay more taxes... But you proved my point.. The reason why athletes and other rich folks aint complaining, is because they know they can pay it. And it wont hurt them. That's first of all. Taking interviews from the Howard Stern show serious, shows that you clearly have no idea whats going on in the world. Howard Stern.. You bring up HOWARD STERN? Of all fu*king people. To be used as credible source on picking the next president of the United States. The only time Howard Sterns opinion or ideas or input would be remotely credible is if i was going to buy a pr0n flick.



Its kind of what you were trying to spew, when you said... see below.




^^ You said that!
apparently you cant read, i said no where in that post about BLACKS being the poor, so once again, racism that WAS never stated gets brought up. fu*king ridiculous. its pathetic. no one in this thread has said anything about racism and now you are screaming it.
there are poor white people, latino people, sh*t ANY race, our nation is falling into pieces and all you fu*king want to do is scream racism.
the only close thing i said about blacks, is well Obama's name. so read the post again, stop trying to stir sh*t that isnt there.

and i never said howard stern was a source for choosing our next president, but it showed that people ARE not paying attention to sh*t and are just voting aimlessly. did you hear the clip or are you going by what im saying and trying to bash it, it did look bad because they had no idea what they were talking about. he had interviewed just random people on the street, it wasnt like it was people they already requested to be on his show.
 10-31-2008, 10:09 AM         #85
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 famoussasjohn said:
how is he greedy when with obamas plan, it will have his money that he worked his a.ss off for, being handed down to lower class people. how is that fair? sh*t i might as well quit my job when obama gets elected. then i can reap the benefits from the rich people.



Quit actin like every rich motherfu*ker is Chris Gardner.

You obviously no nothing about Wayne Huizenga. He was born into a rich family he didn't work his a.ss off from the streets.

This n*gga got Blockbuster video in his pocket, how the hell is an extra 5% on his income tax gonna hurt him. If he wanna save money on taxes, donate that sh*t somewhere, either that or shut up, but don't go blamin it on Obama cuz his tax plan is gonna help the vast majority of Americans who aren't CEOs.


And if he did come up from the streets, he would be more sympathetic to the struggles of working class Americans instead of talkin all that bullsh*t.
 10-31-2008, 10:19 AM         #86
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 beantown85 said:
WHOA!! 3-4 WHOAAAA

damn you guys are doing it big!!
are there any pats fans that aren't f*g**ts

 10-31-2008, 10:46 AM         #87
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 famoussasjohn said:
apparently you cant read, i said no where in that post about BLACKS being the poor, so once again, racism that WAS never stated gets brought up. fu*king ridiculous. its pathetic. no one in this thread has said anything about racism and now you are screaming it.
there are poor white people, latino people, sh*t ANY race, our nation is falling into pieces and all you fu*king want to do is scream racism.
the only close thing i said about blacks, is well Obama's name. so read the post again, stop trying to stir sh*t that isnt there.

and i never said howard stern was a source for choosing our next president, but it showed that people ARE not paying attention to sh*t and are just voting aimlessly. did you hear the clip or are you going by what im saying and trying to bash it, it did look bad because they had no idea what they were talking about. he had interviewed just random people on the street, it wasnt like it was people they already requested to be on his show.

Stop with the fallacy... you may have not said give money to the blacks but thats what you were implying when you talked about taking money from the rich to give to the lower class... I'm just pointing out that, thats not how taxes work. Get off the race issue...pointing out to me that there are poor whites, and poor blacks and poor latinos... Well... I'm part of the Poor black/latino population. And i know plenty of poor white people.

You want to talk about interviews that people have taken off the street... Well lets look at those... During the John Kerry vs George Bush election... They asked this one woman, who she voted for... She said "George Bush" and they asked her why? She said because "John Kerry has a long face, and George Bush was a better looking man"... So you think this is the first presidential election where people are just voting just cause?

Read up on this:
 10 years ago '06        #88
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 Scorp said:
are there any pats fans that aren't f*g**ts

Taking personal shots because you're team is pathetic is so predictable. Try harder.

Dolphins - 3-4 this year!! Major improvement!!! 2 more wins than all of last year!!
 10 years ago '04        #89
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 A.O.™ said:
Stop with the fallacy... you may have not said give money to the blacks but thats what you were implying when you talked about taking money from the rich to give to the lower class... I'm just pointing out that, thats not how taxes work. Get off the race issue...pointing out to me that there are poor whites, and poor blacks and poor latinos... Well... I'm part of the Poor black/latino population. And i know plenty of poor white people.

You want to talk about interviews that people have taken off the street... Well lets look at those... During the John Kerry vs George Bush election... They asked this one woman, who she voted for... She said "George Bush" and they asked her why? She said because "John Kerry has a long face, and George Bush was a better looking man"... So you think this is the first presidential election where people are just voting just cause?

Read up on this:
ok this further proves my point that NO ONE can say anything against Obama because people scream racism. fu*king pathetic. cant even have a decent discussion because if someone says something about poor Obama, you fu*king have to say were being racist. you brought up the race issue not me. you stated i was saying blacks were the only poor race, when i clearly said nothing about blacks in general. so get the fu*k off the race issue because ITS NOT ABOUT RACE. for fu*ks sake. people on this site are retarded as hell. so jumpy when nothing was even said. read the post again, and again until you realize there was nothing pointing to what your bi*ching about.

and yes i know, people are just retarded for how they believe to vote. just like when i was watching and interview of some woman, she said she wasnt going to vote for a man named Obama. yes i understand that is retarded, im not agreeing with her. its pathetic people will make up their mind on something that IS important, and say oh his name is scary.
who gives a fu*k about his name, look into what he believes in, and im not voting mccaine sorry. hes an old scumbag that will ruin this country even more. but thanks for posting the keating 5, ive already read up on it. im not voting for either MAIN candidates. say what you will that my vote is a waste, id rather have it go to someone i believe in than giving my vote to the main two candidates.

im done with this thread, i cant even have a decent discussion without someone screaming racism when there was none in my posting.
 10-31-2008, 11:38 AM         #90
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 famoussasjohn said:
exactly, people need to realize, that these big cooperations run our country, and if they start getting taxed for making over 250k a year, they will stop investing their money and end up paying those taxes.
this will further more hurt our economy because we are at this point in time supposed to be putting money into our economy, but if they get taxed, they will take all their money out of everything they have invested so they can save their money.

IMO the tax for people that make over 250k a year is bullsh*t.
its not their fault they are successful.

THATS ALSO COMPLETELY FALSE

Most of the businesses in the US are small business, not big corporations. And those small businesses provide the majority of the jobs. Most of the large businesses just horde their profits and keep money out of the economy.


And plus, who gives a fu*k about the Dolphins anyway? I wouldn't pay five dollars for that team if it came with a with a coke and a side of fries.
 10 years ago '06        #91
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How are yall mad cause that man wants more money?...Who doesnt want more money? If yall wanna live in socialism holla at europe...
 10 years ago '04        #92
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 PoetikTrev said:
How are yall mad cause that man wants more money?...Who doesnt want more money? If yall wanna live in socialism holla at europe...
this tax is nothing but a donation from money making people...if yall call obama's tax plan socialism, then fu*k it.
socialism >>>. i grew up in the hood with the average income being 10,000 to 30,000 in my area. people stayed struggling if they wasnt out hustling illegally. struggling people = murking season and crime rate increases.

picture this. would you rather make 250k a year and get taxed and still have 200k to pay for your above average lifestyle, or would you rather have 15k a year and be desperate cause it aint enough?

you think taxing a n*gga who got 250k plus is gone make them n*ggas know what desperate is? gone make there moms do crack cause she feel the world is sh*t? gone make them lose sleep cause they cant feed there kids? gone make them rob the corner store cause the bills gotta be paid? gone make them get there kids a used ps2 for christmas cause they still cant afford a $199 xbox. hell nall. they still gone eat at the best places, drink the best liquor, and drive them foreign rides like nothing has changed. all its gone done is make them complain about not wanting to be taxed.


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 10 years ago '04        #93
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Heh,

I'm all for someone trying to cake in before Obama steps in since he will be taking a slightly bigger bite outta them with the taxes and it's their money. But that math is all wrong according to the details of what Obama is proposing and is just reflective of the collective ownership of the Dolphins not goin to the playoffs in a good minute. If he can't understand football enough to get his team to be more competitive it shouldn't be surprising that he doesn't understand obama's economic plan enough to exaggerate how much more he'll actually pay.
 10 years ago '05        #94
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 markman04 said:
These people get tax breaks because they make our economy run. Big cooperation owners supply millions of American workers with jobs every year.

And its no ones responsibility to help you.
you dumb motherfuca there hasn't been any jobs to get because they rather send them to china and pay them 30 a month. I work for the biggest shoe company in the world (NIKE), workin 12 hours a day (mandatory) making air bags for the shoes. They profit 6 billion dollars a quarter and pay people to work there $9.81 to start.

They do a whole lot for all the familys that work for them. I work everyday but i'm just as poor as a family on welfare

FUC YOU
 10 years ago '04        #95
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 famoussasjohn said:
how is he greedy when with obamas plan, it will have his money that he worked his a.ss off for, being handed down to lower class people. how is that fair? sh*t i might as well quit my job when obama gets elected. then i can reap the benefits from the rich people.
Worked his a.ss of for? You have to have a lot of luck on your side to really make it. You made it, you're rich, you're set, why not try to give others more of a chance to make it to where you did. But no because I'm a greedy a.ss stupid muthafukin bastard.
 11-01-2008, 06:38 PM         #96
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Wayne gone make bread on the sale of the team, he's had it for 19 years, so the increases in tax ain't nuthin compared to the gains he get from the initial investment. Hell that 5% he holdin onto might be equal to what he paid for the team back then.
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