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 9 years ago '04        #221
JFamis 235 heat pts235
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 BlackandGifted said:
And what I asked is why wouldnt his company display that or it be certified so dont wow yourself too much
RIAA only tracks world wide sales. most likely his management or his own company paid to a world media tracker that certified it.
 9 years ago '06        #222
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 JFamis said:
RIAA only tracks world wide sales. most likely his management or his own company paid to a world media tracker that certified it.
RIAA tracks domestic only fam
 10-21-2008, 10:08 PM         #223
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 BlackandGifted said:
How were they the Bulls when Bad Boy had more #1 albums than them I mean what exactly is " your measuring stick for success" no doubt tha row was successful but dont discredit bad boy bc you didnt like big and puff, and p yea he did his thing an album a week damn near sh*t was crazy.


Classic albums is the measuring stick and having the best rappers...it wuz a true dynasty like Rocafella wuz a dynasty...Badboy wuz just some random nikkas sellin albums wit 2 rappers u could call legends.
 9 years ago '04        #224
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 BlackandGifted said:
RIAA tracks domestic only fam
Oops. Typo. I know RIAA only certifies US sales.
 9 years ago '06        #225
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 NotSoft said:
Classic albums is the measuring stick and having the best rappers...it wuz a true dynasty like Rocafella wuz a dynasty...Badboy wuz just some random nikkas sellin albums wit 2 rappers u could call legends.
Yeah deathrow had better rappers thats a no brainer but you gotta admit being able to make n*ggas like black rob go 2x plat is impressive, the bband went plat man the band
 9 years ago '05        #226
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 BlackandGifted said:
Everyone you named on that list went gold and or platinum
That's even worse. Any idiot could go platinum at the time Black Rob and Da Band was out. Going platinum was nothing. The true test is to follow up on a sophmore release and Badboy couldn't do that. If you go gold or platinum, then your label should be busy trying to follow up on that and trying to capitalize on that. Instead the CEO of the label was focused on himself and was busy dropping records and featuring other talent from other labels on his songs instead of promoting his own.

 BlackandGifted said:
and to say Dre wasnt a star before the row is foolishness that discounts NWA and you sir are a clown for doing such
How does Bad Boy having continuos gold and platinum success equal failure,youre not even making sense. BTW wheres those loyal deathrow ppl, Snoop left, Dre left, Daz left, Kurrupt left and went back and left again, Lady of Rage.... and who ever those clowns were Suge signed when he got out of prison
Dr.Dre was known on his time with NWA and Ruthless records, but he was not a star. He didn't break out until he went to deathrow. And to deny that or try to argue that will just prove you to be more of a clown just like how you tried to argue that "No Way Out" was a classic.

And lol at naming names who were no longer part of deathrow. At least they had a legit reason for leaving. The Lox, 8Ball & MJG, New Edition, 112, and B5 all left the label because of shady business and lack of focus. Bad Boy=Failed. And Diddy himself admitted to it so you sitting up here playing his defense attorney is really useless.


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 9 years ago '06        #227
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 4REAL said:
That's even worse. Any idiot could go platinum at the time Black Rob and Da Band was out. Going platinum was nothing. The true test is to follow up on a sophmore release and Badboy couldn't do that. If you go gold or platinum, then your label should be busy trying to follow up on that and trying to capitalize on that. Instead the CEO of the label was focused on himself and was busy dropping records and featuring other talent from other labels on his songs instead of promoting his own.



Dr.Dre was known on his time with NWA and Ruthless records, but he was not a star. He didn't break out until he went to deathrow. And to deny that or try to argue that will just prove you to be more of a clown just like how you tried to argue that "No Way Out" was a classic.

And lol at naming names who were no longer part of deathrow. At least they had a legit reason for leaving. The Lox, 8Ball & MJG, New Edition, 112, and B5 all left the label because of shady business and lack of focus. Bad Boy=Failed. And Diddy himself admitted to it so you sitting up here playing his defense attorney is really useless.
Bad Boy mad Puff the 3rd richest person in Hip Hop damn it must be nice to fail.... and you say going plainum doesnt equal success thats just milarky...
and the sophmore is the test so how did Dre's sophmore do on deathrow....oh he left
Dog Pound never dropped
and who are you to make these rules of failure does suge have more loot than puff no so if being damn near a half billionaire is failure i hope i fail may a.ss off after law school

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 9 years ago '07        #228
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 NotSoft said:
I give u that still refuse to call them the most dominant label of the 90's...u gon have to call Mr Colipark that put Soulja Boy,A Bay Bay dude and Vic out dominant in a minute at this rate....Master P still takes the crown for doin the most with the least...ugly album covers=automatic plaque...deathrow is the Chicago Bulls of hiphop Pac wuz Jordan,Suge wuz Phil(not Uncle Phil)....Badboy is the Dallas Mavericks...the owner the biggest star(Biggie wuz Dirk Nowitski)...basically Badboy deserved nothin but playoffs at the most...the rings stayed where they belonged.

swishahouse were the 94-95 houston rockets. (two platinum albums from mike jones and paul wall = the rockets only two two championship rings). then swishahouse fell off after awhile just like the rockets did when hakeem got traded, and charles barkley, and drexler retired.
 9 years ago '07        #229
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 NotSoft said:
Classic albums is the measuring stick and having the best rappers...it wuz a true dynasty like Rocafella wuz a dynasty...Badboy wuz just some random nikkas sellin albums wit 2 rappers u could call legends.
of course death row had betta rappers.who is arguin that?deathrow was strictly hip hop while bad boy was always hip hop an r&b.but death row ended in in 97 while bad boy is still goin strong 15 years lata.
 9 years ago '07        #230
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 4REAL said:
That's even worse. Any idiot could go platinum at the time Black Rob and Da Band was out. Going platinum was nothing. The true test is to follow up on a sophmore release and Badboy couldn't do that. If you go gold or platinum, then your label should be busy trying to follow up on that and trying to capitalize on that. Instead the CEO of the label was focused on himself and was busy dropping records and featuring other talent from other labels on his songs instead of promoting his own.



Dr.Dre was known on his time with NWA and Ruthless records, but he was not a star. He didn't break out until he went to deathrow. And to deny that or try to argue that will just prove you to be more of a clown just like how you tried to argue that "No Way Out" was a classic.

And lol at naming names who were no longer part of deathrow. At least they had a legit reason for leaving. The Lox, 8Ball & MJG, New Edition, 112, and B5 all left the label because of shady business and lack of focus. Bad Boy=Failed. And Diddy himself admitted to it so you sitting up here playing his defense attorney is really useless.

if u could sell black rob an tha band to a million people u could also turn water into wine.and if talkin about sophmore releases,outside of pacs,deathrows were awful.so if goin by sophmore releases death row would have to forfeit.


death row aint make dre no star he made death row n*ggas stars.nwa was tha most contoversial rap goup ever,an all those dudes were household names coast 2 coast.ice cube went on to became a super star an he wasnt on tha row an eazy was already a super star.so to say death row made dre a star,when he was tha bigest act on tha label b4 pac is plain retarded.

what is a legit reason for leaving?bad boy an ha row artists both left due to bad buisnes but aint nobody takin suge crown.do u know why death row artists call suge simon???lol
 9 years ago '06        #231
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and the winner is


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 10-22-2008, 09:04 AM         #232
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 Mysonne said:
So shook DMX d*cked down Foxy when she was his girl.

that sh*t broke kurupts heart


dmx won.
 9 years ago '05        #233
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 r.burgundy said:
if u could sell black rob an tha band to a million people u could also turn water into wine.and if talkin about sophmore releases,outside of pacs,deathrows were awful.so if goin by sophmore releases death row would have to forfeit.
deathrow artists that were put on the forefront have lasted the test of time. Whether their sophomore albums were great or not, Dre, Snoop, and 2Pac are all still very relevant. The most relevant artists on Badboy is Diddy himself. And lol at Black Rob selling? Where is Black Rob now? Answer that.

 r.burgundy said:
death row aint make dre no star he made death row n*ggas stars.nwa was tha most contoversial rap goup ever,an all those dudes were household names coast 2 coast.ice cube went on to became a super star an he wasnt on tha row an eazy was already a super star.so to say death row made dre a star,when he was tha bigest act on tha label b4 pac is plain retarded.
Dre made deathRow artists stars because of his production. But Suge provided the platform for Dr.Dre to make hit singles and become a top producer which made him become a star. Without a platform you are nothing. This is why artists like Joe Budden are struggling because they have no platform. So Dre's success is cause of Suge giving him space.

When Snoop came out, he was trying to resemble Special Ed, but it was Suge who adviced Snoop to grow out his hair and be himself.

Suge Knight is the reason why Dre and Snoop are who they are today. For you to sit up here and say otherwise will prove you to be nothing more than a complete idiot if you already don't look stupid enough.

 r.burgundy said:
what is a legit reason for leaving?bad boy an ha row artists both left due to bad buisnes but aint nobody takin suge crown.do u know why death row artists call suge simon???lol
deathrow went under because Suge went to jail so it was no reason for the remaining artists to stay if there is no one to provide direction for them. It's that simple. Artists left Diddy because he was raping them, giving out bad recording deals, cheating them, over-promoting himself, giving his artists little to no promotion, and trying to mold his artists creatively such as trying to let the Lox wear shiny suits.
 9 years ago '06        #234
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^^^
So Dre left bc Suge was in jail
Snoop left bc Suge was in jail

uh no

Joe Budden had Def Jam as a platform and didnt do sh*t with it so....
 9 years ago '07        #235
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 BlackandGifted said:
^^^
So Dre left bc Suge was in jail
Snoop left bc Suge was in jail

uh no

Joe Budden had Def Jam as a platform and didnt do sh*t with it so....
nope suge was still free when dr dre left deathrow. dre left the row because he didn't like seeing people getting there a.sses kicked in the studio. its fu*ked up that suge stole dre's own beats right in his face though.

but in all honesty deathrow fu*ked up. your record company deserves to fall off if the ceo of your record company (suge) tried to k!ll one of his rappers (rbx) over a bucket of chicken.
 9 years ago '07        #236
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 4REAL said:
deathrow artists that were put on the forefront have lasted the test of time. Whether their sophomore albums were great or not, Dre, Snoop, and 2Pac are all still very relevant. The most relevant artists on Badboy is Diddy himself. And lol at Black Rob selling? Where is Black Rob now? Answer that.



Dre made deathRow artists stars because of his production. But Suge provided the platform for Dr.Dre to make hit singles and become a top producer which made him become a star. Without a platform you are nothing. This is why artists like Joe Budden are struggling because they have no platform. So Dre's success is cause of Suge giving him space.

When Snoop came out, he was trying to resemble Special Ed, but it was Suge who adviced Snoop to grow out his hair and be himself.

Suge Knight is the reason why Dre and Snoop are who they are today. For you to sit up here and say otherwise will prove you to be nothing more than a complete idiot if you already don't look stupid enough.



deathrow went under because Suge went to jail so it was no reason for the remaining artists to stay if there is no one to provide direction for them. It's that simple. Artists left Diddy because he was raping them, giving out bad recording deals, cheating them, over-promoting himself, giving his artists little to no promotion, and trying to mold his artists creatively such as trying to let the Lox wear shiny suits.
suge ait provide sh*t but tha muscle.suge got dre out his ruthless deal an dre let him go in on tha row. suge aint even put no money up,harry-o put tha bread up for.dre an suge owned death row 50/50.

what artists????dre left while suge was there,snoop left while suge was there,an pac got k!lled.

have u not seen any interview wit snoop talkin about he was tired of bein paid in jewelry an rose royces????are u serious.do u kno pac died wit 100,000 grand in his bank account????have u seen not seen daz say he stole 500 g's from suge to make up for his work.

bad boy was all about promotion.puff just promoted them n*ggas wrong.what puff did aint nuthin no diff from what baby an weezy did.once major artists started leavin he had to turn himself into tha labels biggest star
 9 years ago '04        #237
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 r.burgundy said:
suge ait provide sh*t but tha muscle.suge got dre out his ruthless deal an dre let him go in on tha row. suge aint even put no money up,harry-o put tha bread up for.dre an suge owned death row 50/50.
It doesn't stop the fact that Dre worked for Suge and got out of his contract thanks to Suge.

 r.burgundy said:
what artists????dre left while suge was there,snoop left while suge was there,an pac got k!lled.
Dre left the label because he thought Suge and the deathRow environment was out of control and unsafe. Snoop Dogg didn't leave deathRow until 1998 when Suge was locked up because no one was there to guide Snoop's career or the label and that's why Snoop signed to Master P because Snoop needed direction.

 r.burgundy said:
have u not seen any interview wit snoop talkin about he was tired of bein paid in jewelry an rose royces????are u serious.do u kno pac died wit 100,000 grand in his bank account????have u seen not seen daz say he stole 500 g's from suge to make up for his work.
Yeah but at the same time deathRow had lawyers that got Snoop and plenty of people off of charges. Diddy caught a case with his Shyne that tried to bail him out on a situation and Puff left him hanging. Not to mention, Big died with 25,000 and to top it off Diddy owns all of Big's publishing instead of his mom. Talk about foul. Look at Black Rob. Didn't Black Rob have to rob a bank or something?

 r.burgundy said:
bad boy was all about promotion.puff just promoted them n*ggas wrong.what puff did aint nuthin no diff from what baby an weezy did.once major artists started leavin he had to turn himself into tha labels biggest star
Stop the excuses. Puff turned himself into the biggest star of the label as soon as Big died. He was always hungry for the spotlight. He was all over the videos and all over the tracks. Big's death was Diddy's lottery ticket.
 9 years ago '07        #239
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 4REAL said:
It doesn't stop the fact that Dre worked for Suge and got out of his contract thanks to Suge.



Dre left the label because he thought Suge and the deathRow environment was out of control and unsafe. Snoop Dogg didn't leave deathRow until 1998 when Suge was locked up because no one was there to guide Snoop's career or the label and that's why Snoop signed to Master P because Snoop needed direction.



Yeah but at the same time deathRow had lawyers that got Snoop and plenty of people off of charges. Diddy caught a case with his Shyne that tried to bail him out on a situation and Puff left him hanging. Not to mention, Big died with 25,000 and to top it off Diddy owns all of Big's publishing instead of his mom. Talk about foul. Look at Black Rob. Didn't Black Rob have to rob a bank or something?



Stop the excuses. Puff turned himself into the biggest star of the label as soon as Big died. He was always hungry for the spotlight. He was all over the videos and all over the tracks. Big's death was Diddy's lottery ticket.
dre didnt work for suge.suge an dre owned tha row 50/50.what dont u understand about ownership?thats y dre was able to just walk away.he gave suge total ownership then sued him later,an got his masters back.

snoop was finally let out his contract in 98,which master p had to buy.snoop signed to P cause he was tha only 1 wit tha bread willin to negotiate wit suge.

big difference between snoops trial an shynes was that snoop was innocent.snoops body guard k!lled that dude,while shyne was guilty.stupid n*gga shot in tha air in tha club.an biggie aint die wit no damn 25 g's in his account.where do yall get this stupid sh*t from????biggie had sold puff his masters an puff gave them to ms.wallace a few years ago.
 10-22-2008, 02:50 PM         #240
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is master p more gangsta than i originally thought? seems pretty weird taht he was the only one willing to negotiate with suge about snoop.


plus i heard he was able to give snoop protection from suge
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