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 07-06-2008, 06:42 AM         #61
HotepSuns  OP
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one of maybe 3 honest dudes in hip hop right now...both honest with the game,but even more so honest about himself....on top of the fact his spit game is ferocious....this dude should be selling wild records..



"the more n*ggas say they ain't writing down their lyrics/the more it's starting to sound like they didn't"


PREACHHHHHHHHHHHHH


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 9 years ago '04        #62
persuazion 2 heat pts
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damn.....alot of truth in this song
 07-06-2008, 07:15 AM         #63
Victor $weet  OP
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*puts song on iPod*

*moves on with his day*
 9 years ago '05        #64
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 SamDaManIsBack said:
Can anybody pinpoint the day it went wrong?
I mean, I used to blame Reggaeton
I can't front, I thought all that was corny
Or was it Ja's fault
Lil Mo said she aint get paid for "Put It On Me"
Look, bring it up and dudes get on some coy sh*t
(OR) was it T-Pain with that funny voice sh*t?
(OR) was it Lil Wayne with that funny voice sh*t?
-The whole game d*ck-rode that funny voice sh*t-
I can't tell when it happened
Was it when Lil Jon showed dudes you could sell without rappin?
Was it "Laffy Taffy"?, I thought they was kiddin
Shawty Lo said "Dey Know", I really didn't
Dancin became cool again, then came "Walk It Out"
But I aint know what the fu*k n*gga was talkin bout
Unit kicked Game out, they aint give a fu*k
Then we seen the same sh*t happen to Buck
It was a few years ago, but I remember the summer
50 made fans start lookin at the numbers
A&R's wont take risks, they won't sign n*ggas
The word 'swag' came out, started to blind n*ggas
Rap dudes want reality shows
Then my dumb a.ss thinkin that reality sold
Did it start with the iPod?
Or when rappers had to pay DJs for them to do their job?
I mean, all the content is the same, it won't differ
Everybody sold some drugs or pulled triggers
The more you think about it, you gon just get sicker
And why the fu*k would Nas wanna call his sh*t "zzzzzz"?
n*gga! Was it when the Wu broke up?
Pac, BIG, Pun went to sleep, never woke up
Lupe was doin a tribute, choked up
But some of these stupid a.ss fans is like "So what??"
Some of them, they aint educated
And fu*k blamin the south, we aint segregated
I mean, it was all good around the 'Kiss and Beans sh*t
Took a left turn around the 'Kiss and Green sh*t
Maybe it all started when Rocafella parted, ways
(Is it) natural to shift toward fame?
I watched every last one of dudes sh*t on Dame
Kinda got that in common, I can dig that pain
When they gave Jay a desk and suit
It finally gave a rapper a chance to come and execute
But somethin told me the suits at the tables was hurtin
They fired everybody, labels started mergin
Far as sales, they're declinin strong
Ask the experts, they'll say that the climates wrong
I mean, some n*ggas prime's is gone
I peeped it when n*ggas started puttin fake diamonds on
You could tell a dude "I spit better than you"
But then he'll say "I'm richer for whatever I do"
I seen all this comin, I knew what we was in fo'
Back when Erick Sermon had jumped out of the window
Was it when Ma$e retired? He couldn't hack it
TIP could, he just needed some more ratchets
DJs/producers wants to get us the farthest
Said "fu*k rappers" and they became the artists
I gotta talk candid
Did we start havin issues around the same time Jimmy and Cam did?
Was it when CHINGY thought he aint need Ludacris?
His next album, found out that that was ludicrous
Papoose and Clipse both survived
Inkin' with Jive, then gettin jived
The man J-Hood repped that D-Block gang
Then I seen dude draggin his D-Block chain
Or did one-hit-wonders change it all along?
They made labels only wanna sign a dude's song
And you really don't know sh*t
If you think the fans pick the videos on 106
I'm just statin the truth
Did it start when Fox stayed in the news more than she did the booth?
Or was it when Lil Kim stopped exploitin s3x?
The fu*k is up with DMX? I hope dude's straight
Have an opinion, and they gon' say you hate
I can't front, I'm missin the old Clue tapes
The underground sunk further
The feds was on Irv so The Inc. dropped 'murder'
I'd never blame Fab, Jeezy, Rick Ross (nah)
Did sh*t get lost when Shyne went up north? (nah)
I'll never understand the hip-hop police
When hip-hop is what hip-hop needs to police
These blatent-ass radio attempts sound so bland
Twista kept tryna to recreate "Slow Jamz"
Did we send the wrong message with our slang?
Broke n*ggas lowerin their rent to 'make it rain'
So you walk in, give a bi*ch a few twenties
And she'll smirk her face up lookin at YOU funny
This chick told me she only take new money
I snatched my sh*t back so fast!
Or did it start when rappers said "fu*k it"?
Sacrificed the music, started raping their budget
Nothin wrong with dudes bein candy or pop
Somethin was wrong when Joc hit the 'candy shop'
We buyin our own records, maybe no ones to blame
Or we a business that we can't afford to maintain
The second week show that boy's numbers aint high
I hate to break it to you, numbers always lie
Or when Ortiz signed to Aftermath
And now he's feelin the aftermath
Was it f!ght Klub fu*kin with them battle raps?
But not too many of them gettin signed after that
I mean, some can't stay afloat
A million Busta albums, he still not mentioned with the G.O.A.T.
fu*k lookin for answers, time'll tell
Was it when Def Jam didn't wanna resign L?
I mean, a 15-year-old told cass was a.ss
But rather than spaz, all dude could do was laugh
Or was it when the whole East Coast fell off?
Or got comfortable, maybe dudes was too well-off
The more n*ggas said that they aint write down lyrics
The more it started to sound like they didn't
But, do whatever you can to keep the lights on
But 'dumbin down' just became the new Dylan
Honestly, I aint know what to think
A few years ago, we had the young kids wearing pink
I can't blame the fans for not knowin a damn thing
When we trained 'em to be this way
I mean, showed 'em whatever to sell with no limits
Since the early 90s sold 'em a false image
So when some sh*t come that don't fit the mold
It's like a mode, n*gga you won't even do gold
They watch the videos
See you on the corner with a whole bunch of people and think that you hood
They turn on the TV
See these video bi*ches, and they think n*ggas' girls really look that good

props on the lyrics but he said CHINGY not Jimmy
 07-06-2008, 08:11 AM         #65
Gerry  OP
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I think this beat is tough..

Whole song is nuts...waiting on pt 2 lol
 9 years ago '08        #66
Loyalist 2 heat pts
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this sh*t is crack my n*gga!

the beat is ill, and lyrically joe is :wow:
 07-06-2008, 09:58 AM         #67
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*moves left to right and screams*

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh

:afro:
 9 years ago '05        #68
bluntednt 43 heat pts43
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Joey stay bringin the heat and tellin it how it is...hot track
 9 years ago '07        #69
Bruce Leeroy 
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This sh*t is flames. Alot of real talk. But my n*gga Joe you made "Touch N Go" . I'm just sayin'.
 9 years ago '05        #70
dg177bx 25 heat pts25
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this n*gga went beastmode, if n*gga drops this video itl be pretty much a rap imo
 9 years ago '05        #71
pokora 
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 ass_in_my_eyes said:
*moves Left To Right And Screams*

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:afro:
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
 07-06-2008, 11:44 AM         #72
'79  OP
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fresh air
 9 years ago '05        #73
goldgrill910 2 heat pts
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that beat is crazy...

"shawty lo said "they know", i didn't really"

joe k!lled it
 07-06-2008, 11:54 AM         #74
CIDF  OP
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dope... but have fun findin a big name to collab with ahaha
 9 years ago '05        #75
goldgrill910 2 heat pts
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 CIDF said:
dope... but have fun findin a big name to collab with ahaha
lmaooo...
he gave busta, tip, pap, clipse, and joel ortiz props
dmx too
 07-06-2008, 12:08 PM         #76
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 PHOENIXXX said:
is sh*t is FAAAAAAAAARRRRR from horrible

Budden fans are extra picky, yall want him to drop an illmatic
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we want nas to drop an illmatic too, NOT gonna happen.

budden doesn't have an illmatic rappin style. i just want him to put out dope sh*t like he did with mood muzik 2, and i guess 3
 07-06-2008, 12:10 PM         #77
Predator  OP
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my goodness...he never holds back
 9 years ago '04        #78
Phesus 1 heat pts
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is when cats hear that song it will only segregate hip hop more and not unify it.... all because of the truth


I think so fAr what hip hop really is it is dead hip hop was our freedom of expression to unify our the people....but today it is all who is beefing now, who is hatin on each other now, who is fu*king whose girl no unification at all..... the hip hop sound is not dead, but the movement is dying a slow death and the money is k!llin it.


now if people like jay z and wayne and others start talking like budden then hip hop can be saved, but the problem is the music is used as a hustle now
and it is no longer a feeling or a tool to revive and uplift the people
 07-06-2008, 12:21 PM         #79
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 Phesus said:
is when cats hear that song it will only segregate hip hop more and not unify it.... all because of the truth


I think so fAr what hip hop really is it is dead hip hop was our freedom of expression to unify our the people....but today it is all who is beefing now, who is hatin on each other now, who is fu*king whose girl no unification at all..... the hip hop sound is not dead, but the movement is dying a slow death and the money is k!llin it.


now if people like jay z and wayne and others start talking like budden then hip hop can be saved, but the problem is the music is used as a hustle now
and it is no longer a feeling or a tool to revive and uplift the people
i think your a f*g

fu*k the south
 9 years ago '06        #80
jj01 
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nobody in the south is going to respond to this, and if they do it will be about record sales.
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