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 14 years ago '04        #51
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i agree with that 100% Nigerians are as a whole darker than most jamaicans. just like british people are darker than irish people. u see what im saying here. just like people from ghana are darker than some other black african countries . its how the world is.

im not sure how roy jones and fat joe almost f*ghting brought us to this but it did.

 11-18-2004, 09:47 PM         #52
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Just about every black person in the AMERICAS is mixed. Its very common knowledge. Its about what you choose to embrace, not what you are genetically. It really dosent matter to me how much black blood you have in you it's about the perception in YOUR eyez. I know better though. I know Im balck. I dont have a magic mirror at my house where i look and see green eyez and sh*t. Its more mental. Its about black consciouness in your mind. I can look right at a person and see their black but if they tell me thier not then thats what you have to accept not matter how foolish it is. Its about black consciousness. Who you are in your mind.

With that said, to me, PR, Domincans, Cubans, and Latinos in general are not black/ Afro-latino since they dont identify at all with the racial aspect of their identity. Even though it may be evident in their appearance. They identify with their culture. Therfore they have nothing in common with me, A black man who Identifies with his race which is African American.

Once again does that mean we cant be cool? NO it just means we're diffrent.

Everybody else, you cant tell them what they are. I dont have a problem with that. I understand about colonized mentalities. Everything closest to white is RIGHT :D

 11-18-2004, 09:53 PM         #53
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im not sure how roy jones and fat joe almost f*ghting brought us to this but it did.
Somebody said Fat Joe shouldnt be sayin "n*gga" since he aint black and somebody fired back and said latinos got black blood so here we are.

 14 years ago '04        #54
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 13lack said
Just about every black person in the AMERICAS is mixed. Its very common knowledge. Its about what you choose to embrace, not what you are genetically. It really dosent matter to me how much black blood you have in you it's about the perception in YOUR eyez. I know better though. I know Im balck. I dont have a magic mirror at my house where i look and see green eyez and sh*t. Its more mental. Its about black consciouness in your mind. I can look right at a person and see their black but if they tell me thier not then thats what you have to accept not matter how foolish it is. Its about black consciousness. Who you are in your mind.

With that said, to me, PR, Domincans, Cubans, and Latinos in general are not black/ Afro-latino since they dont identify at all with the racial aspect of their identity. Even though it may be evident in their appearance. They identify with their culture. Therfore they have nothing in common with me, A black man who Identifies with his race which is African American.

Once again does that mean we cant be cool? NO it just means we're diffrent.

Everybody else, you cant tell them what they are. I dont have a problem with that. I understand about colonized mentalities. Everything closest to white is RIGHT :D
I WOULDNT SAY THAT WE WOULDNT HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON 'CAUSE ME BEING A LATINO I DONT DENY MY AFRICAN BLOOD BUT I GOT WAY MORE INDIAN BLOOD IN ME AND IM DOMININICAN/ECUADORIAN AND HAS FAR HAS U SAID I AGREE WITH U IS WHAT WITH A PERSON CONSIDERS THEMSELVES.YES IT'S TRUE THAT LATINOS DO IDENTIFY MORE WITH CULTURE BUT IT'S ALSO AT HOW WE LOOK AT OURSELVES SOMEONE LIKE SAMMY SOSA IS DARK HAS fu*k BUT HE HAS BEEN RAISED IN A ENVIROMENT WHERE THEY SPEAK SPANISH,LISTEN TO SPANISH MUSIC,ETC SO THEREFORE HE'S GUNNA LOOK AT HIMSELF HAS A LATINO.IT'S THE SAME WITH BLACKS IS WHERE YALL COME FROM THAT MAKES U IDENTIFY UNDER THE BLACK RACE..I'VE SEEN GUAYANESE,TRINIS AND SOME JAMAICANS THAT LOOK LIKE ARABS BUT THEY STILL CLAIM BLACK AND IM SURE THEY IDENTIFY WITH BEING BLACK 'CAUSE OF THEIR CULTURE/UPBRINGIN..
OH AND JUST 'CAUSE WE IDENTIFY HAS LATINOS DOSENT MEAN WE ARE TOTALLY DEYIN OUR AFRICAN INFLUENCES IT'S JUST HOW WE LOOK AT OURSELVES LATINOS HAVE SO MANY SHADES,TRAITS THAT IF WE STARTED JUST LOOKING AT OURSELF HAS BLACKS,WHITE OR ASIAN THEN IT WILL CREATE MORE CHAOS IN OUR COMMUNITY


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 14 years ago '04        #55
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ive never seen any guaynese , trinis and ESPECIALLY jamaicans look like arabs, trinis and guyanese people are mixed hispanic or indian and black. That combo will never make an arab . jamaicans are straight black,

 14 years ago '04        #56
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 ChrisBosh4_ATL said
ive never seen any guaynese , trinis and ESPECIALLY jamaicans look like arabs, trinis and guyanese people are mixed hispanic or indian and black. That combo will never make an arab . jamaicans are straight black,


IF THAT DOSENT LOOK LIKE ARABS TO YOU I DONT KNOW WHAT DOES...BUT YET THEY CLAIM THE BLACK RACE...AND ONCE AGAIN HOW ARE JAMAICANS STRAIGHT BLACK??? THERE ARE ASIANS,EAST INDIANS AND MANY OTHER RACES IN JAMAICA SO HOW WILL THAT MAKE THEM STRAIGHT BLACK??? THE NATIONAL RACE IN JAMAICAN IS BLACK THO...AND JUST TO CLEAR IT UP MY WHOLE ARGUMENT IS THAT BLACKS DO SOMETIMES SEEM TO IDENTIFY THEIR RACE WITH THEIR CULTURE...JUST LIKE LATINOS


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 14 years ago '04        #57
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they looks like guyanese people or indians not native people , people from indian, not arabs , iranians and afghanis dont look like that, trust me ,there is some immigrants in toronto from all those countries and i know which look like which.

 14 years ago '04        #58
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for the most part i do agree with you , your never gonna have a 100% with anything , im out maybe we will pick this up later on ,

 14 years ago '04        #59
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none of the trinis i know look white. they for the most part look black

 11-19-2004, 01:32 AM         #60
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why can puerto ricans say ******, but when we say **** they wanna f*ght us?

 14 years ago '04        #61
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fat joe just big but if it was just punches roy woulda kicked his a*s thats the truth! and roy is smarter than that cmon now, he aint trying to get a lawsuit! you think its easy to get your video on rap city and get interviews???? na you gotta be a G and have your game tight!!! dont matter if his song sux, so did/does masta p and he still gets his sh*t out dont he....? some of yall is so dumb and talk to much sh*t to many times!


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 11-19-2004, 12:57 PM         #62
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why can puerto ricans say ******, but when we say **** they wanna f*ght us?
Because we blacks LET THEM. If way back 10 years ago, or maybe further back than that, we would have stopped it, we wouldn't be in this discussion. If a black person would have POPPED THE fu*k outta a Latino or any other "minority" for crossing "that line" then we wouldn't STILL be talking about this.

Its OUR fault. Now you got Asians, whites, and a whole multitude of races disrespecting us and our culture as they ALWAYS DO. Its like a child. When the child is small, and starts talking back to you, you do nothing. Then it progresses to when he starts hitting you. All the while your doing nothing about it. When the child is grown, its too late. They just might kick your a*s :D. This whole "everybody calling each other n*gga, and you too" thing is like a child that should've been disciplined A LOOOONG time ago. Now its grown and kickin your a*s. Its our fault. We should've stopped it. Now we cant cry about it.

What k*lls me is when you ask them to not say it, and they say "why not"? You give your respective reason, and they get indignant. Almost like they have a right to say it.

HIPHOP IS/WAS BLACK CULTURE.

Dont be surprised if 10 years from now, when Hiphop is like 40 years old. In the history books you see a White, Hispanic, or Asian being credited with its invention.

Its cool to enjoy other people's culture. But, you shouldn't cross certain lines. But they do/did and now we cant stop it. sh*t is disgusting. Its no ones fault but our own.

 14 years ago '04        #63
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 dirty v said
roy is a g dont sleep on my boy that n*gga would knock any of yall n*ggas on dis site da fu*k out on realz dont even front like he wouldent, and fat joe aint no gangsta he wishs he was black hes fake he dont come to the west or da south talkin n*gga this n*gga that, cuase the east coast is white and soft

first of all this n*gga fat joe lives in miami so get ya facts straight....and the east coast is all white come on b...have you been to the east coast...and if jones would of thrown a punch he would of got shot cmon b they were at ja rules release party in new york you think n*ggas gonna let him get snuff...be for real

 14 years ago '04        #64
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these to guys should f*ght on camera like everybody else

be nice to see Fat Joes fat a*s gettn knocked the fu*k down

 14 years ago '04        #65
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 13lack said
Because we blacks LET THEM. If way back 10 years ago, or maybe further back than that, we would have stopped it, we wouldn't be in this discussion. If a black person would have POPPED THE fu*k outta a Latino or any other "minority" for crossing "that line" then we wouldn't STILL be talking about this.

Its OUR fault. Now you got Asians, whites, and a whole multitude of races disrespecting us and our culture as they ALWAYS DO. Its like a child. When the child is small, and starts talking back to you, you do nothing. Then it progresses to when he starts hitting you. All the while your doing nothing about it. When the child is grown, its too late. They just might kick your a*s :D. This whole "everybody calling each other n*gga, and you too" thing is like a child that should've been disciplined A LOOOONG time ago. Now its grown and kickin your a*s. Its our fault. We should've stopped it. Now we cant cry about it.

What k*lls me is when you ask them to not say it, and they say "why not"? You give your respective reason, and they get indignant. Almost like they have a right to say it.

HIPHOP IS/WAS BLACK CULTURE.

Dont be surprised if 10 years from now, when Hiphop is like 40 years old. In the history books you see a White, Hispanic, or Asian being credited with its invention.

Its cool to enjoy other people's culture. But, you shouldn't cross certain lines. But they do/did and now we cant stop it. sh*t is disgusting. Its no ones fault but our own.
WTF??? ARE U SERIOUS??? U GUNNA SIT THERE AND SAY HIP HOP WAS CREATED BY ALL BLACKS AND I MEAN ALL THE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP FROM BREAKDANCING,RAPPING,GRAFFITY,ETC...U GUNNA TELL BLACKS STARTED ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP???..SMH GO LEARN SOMETHING..AND BY THE WAY LET ME ASK U THIS IF SOMEONE LIKE SAMMY SOSA WOULD SAY HE'S LATINO AND YET HE STILL USES THE WORD n*gga U WOULD WANNA POP HIS JAW OR WHAT??? DAMN SON U SERIOUSLY SEEM LIKE A RACIST IF U CANT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT LATINOS AND BLACKS ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME sh*t AND THAT WE ALSO HAND A HAND IN HIP HOP FROM IT'S BEGINNING UP IN BOOGIE DOWN THEN U DEFETNELY JUST HATING OR A RACIST...IF A PIONEER LIKE AFRIKA BAMBAATAA SAID THAT LATINOS HAD A HAND IN HIP HOP AND PEOPLE LIKE U CANT ACCEPT IT THEN THATS ON YALL :) :)
*EDIT* HERES SOME NAME U SHOULD GO READ ABOUT BEFORE U SAY NO ONE ELSE BUT BLACKS HAD A HAND IN CREATING HIP HOP
DJ Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip, Rocksteady Crew, TBB, Tony G


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 11-19-2004, 02:21 PM         #66
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 EmOnEyBaGz175 said
WTF??? ARE U SERIOUS??? U GUNNA SIT THERE AND SAY HIP HOP WAS CREATED BY ALL BLACKS AND I MEAN ALL THE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP FROM BREAKDANCING,RAPPING,GRAFFITY,ETC...U GUNNA TELL BLACKS STARTED ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP???..SMH GO LEARN SOMETHING..AND BY THE WAY LET ME ASK U THIS IF SOMEONE LIKE SAMMY SOSA WOULD SAY HE'S LATINO AND YET HE STILL USES THE WORD n*gga U WOULD WANNA POP HIS JAW OR WHAT???
Yea thats EXACTLY what the fu*k Im saying. Hiphop started waaaaaaaaaaaaay before you think. Hiphop is just a CULMINATION of black styles. Blacks have ALWAYS beeeeeeen poets since the spoken word in the 60's or Eveeeeeeeeenn waaaay before that. Black girls, when they play those little hand games make up rhyming songs to go with the beat. When they jump rope and sh*t. Bee-boxin can be attributed to skatting in Jazz music. The Call and response aspect of Hip- hop can be found in the BLACK church. You ever heard of "god is good all the time *congregation answers* "all the time, god is good".

BREAK DANCING? PLEASE. Even THAT has BLACK origins. You ever heard of an African form of Matial arts called COPEAI(SP?). The slave masters thought they were dancing when in actuality they were learning martial arts.

If you listen to Aretha Franklins "rock steady". She's basically rap-singin

Basically im saying is Hip-hop was CREATED by blacks. This dosen't mean others cant take part in it. It simply means its an off-shoot of all the things i listed above. They all come together and culminated to make Hip-hop.

Others can take part in Hip-hop but all in all IT is BLACK culture PERIOD. It was CREATED by black people. Others CONTRIBUTED, but it was CREATED by black people. Hip-Hop has ALWAYS been apart of the black comunnity in one form of another.

 11-19-2004, 02:44 PM         #67
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13Lack,
actually your wrong. Though I do consider Hip-Hop a Black culture it was not all made by Blacks. In the Bronx was one of the few places in the 40's-70's where Puerto Ricans and Dominicans lived.

since you know so much...Ever heard of Tito Puente who contributed a lot in jazz. Since hip hop is coming from such things as jazz, right 13 Lack?

or how about graffiti, though i can't prove this it is said that it was a group consisting 2 dominicans, a black, and a puerto rican who started tha art of graffiti on walls.

Is most of hip-hop black culture...yea, but get ya facts straight before sayin that ALL of it was created by Blacks because than that shows your lack of inteligence in the culture that you so proudly claim.


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 11-19-2004, 02:55 PM         #68
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WTF??? ARE U SERIOUS??? U GUNNA SIT THERE AND SAY HIP HOP WAS CREATED BY ALL BLACKS AND I MEAN ALL THE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP FROM BREAKDANCING,RAPPING,GRAFFITY,ETC...U GUNNA TELL BLACKS STARTED ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF HIP HOP???..SMH GO LEARN SOMETHING..AND BY THE WAY LET ME ASK U THIS IF SOMEONE LIKE SAMMY SOSA WOULD SAY HE'S LATINO AND YET HE STILL USES THE WORD n*gga U WOULD WANNA POP HIS JAW OR WHAT??? DAMN SON U SERIOUSLY SEEM LIKE A RACIST IF U CANT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT LATINOS AND BLACKS ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME sh*t AND THAT WE ALSO HAND A HAND IN HIP HOP FROM IT'S BEGINNING UP IN BOOGIE DOWN THEN U DEFETNELY JUST HATING OR A RACIST...IF A PIONEER LIKE AFRIKA BAMBAATAA SAID THAT LATINOS HAD A HAND IN HIP HOP AND PEOPLE LIKE U CANT ACCEPT IT THEN THATS ON YALL
*EDIT* HERES SOME NAME U SHOULD GO READ ABOUT BEFORE U SAY NO ONE ELSE BUT BLACKS HAD A HAND IN CREATING HIP HOP
DJ Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip, Rocksteady Crew, TBB, Tony G


Now for the rest of your statement since you edited it.

About Sammy Sosa. fu*kin right id POP the fu*k outta him simply because If he uses the word n*gga he has to identify with the plight of a BLACK AMERICAN not the plight of an Afro-Latino. The plight of a black man in America is different. Since Afro-Latinos see themselves as different than Black Americans then why would Sammy Sosa think about using a term that coincides EXCLUSIVELY with the RACIAL plight of a Black American. Sammy Sosa dosent Identify with AA culture( which some of it consist of the word the use n*gga). Hes black, but he dosent identify with African American culture. He identifies with Afro-Latino culture which is for the most part different. Most black Americans identify with Slavery in this country as part of their culture and how white people keep Blacks down. Thats what we identify with in this country, because thats our story in this country.Thats the reason why we talk about it ALOT. Most Latinos DON NOT dwell on or even talk about slavery or Jim crow/segregation(If they even had that in Latin America). Thats why we "flipped" n*gga because we identify with the RACIAL plight of what we are, which is AA. Generally Latinos, once again dont Identify with race so why use a RACIAL TERM?. If i ask Sammy Sosa or any Latino of ANY complextion for that matter "Are you black?". a large % of the time they would answer NO. And they'll say" Im(insert Latin American country) . If you were to ask any AA or any complexion "are you black?" 90% of time you'll get yes. No matter what color they are.

All im saying is the plight of the American Negro is differet than the plight of Latin Americans. It may have similarities but it is different. We have totally different mentalities. Thats why I identify with my RACE and my Latino counterpart identifies with his CULTURE.


And if Afrika Bambaataa said that about Latinos i would have to agree. They most definately CONTRIBUTED. But they did not CREATE. to CREATE something means you form it from NOTHING. like i said the Template for Hip-hop was ALREADY there. Latinos CONTRIBUTED. BLACKS CREATED IT since it was already there in different forms.

 11-19-2004, 03:06 PM         #69
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13Lack,
actually your wrong. Though I do consider Hip-Hop a Black culture it was not all made by Blacks. In the Bronx was one of the few places in the 40's-70's where Puerto Ricans and Dominicans lived.

since you know so much...Ever heard of Tito Puente who contributed a lot in jazz. Since hip hop is coming from such things as jazz, right 13 Lack?

or how about graffiti, though i can't prove this it is said that it was a group consisting 2 dominicans, a black, and a puerto rican who started tha art of graffiti on walls.

Is most of hip-hop black culture...yea, but get ya facts straight before sayin that ALL of it was created by Blacks because than that shows your lack of inteligence in the culture that you so proudly claim.


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Once again Tito Puente CONTRIBUTED to jazz he didnt CREATE it. Jazz was already there. And i realize that it was not ALL made by blacks. Other people CONTRIBUTED to it but the ESSENCE of Hip-Hop is black. Blacks CREATED it. Others CONTRIBUTED to it. No matter how small of large the contribution is, it still dosen't NEGATE the creators which are black people.

Some believe God CREATED the world. We as humans argueably CONTRIBUTE to the world but we did not CREATE it since it was already here when we got here.

There's a difference between creating something and contributing to it.

 14 years ago '04        #70
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 13lack said
Yea thats EXACTLY what the fu*k Im saying. Hiphop started waaaaaaaaaaaaay before you think. Hiphop is just a CULMINATION of black styles. Blacks have ALWAYS beeeeeeen poets since the spoken word in the 60's or Eveeeeeeeeenn waaaay before that. Black girls, when they play those little hand games make up rhyming songs to go with the beat. When they jump rope and sh*t. Bee-boxin can be attributed to skatting in Jazz music. The Call and response aspect of Hip- hop can be found in the BLACK church. You ever heard of "god is good all the time *congregation answers* "all the time, god is good".

BREAK DANCING? PLEASE. Even THAT has BLACK origins. You ever heard of an African form of Matial arts called COPEAI(SP?). The slave masters thought they were dancing when in actuality they were learning martial arts.

If you listen to Aretha Franklins "rock steady". She's basically rap-singin

Basically im saying is Hip-hop was CREATED by blacks. This dosen't mean others cant take part in it. It simply means its an off-shoot of all the things i listed above. They all come together and culminated to make Hip-hop.

Others can take part in Hip-hop but all in all IT is BLACK culture PERIOD. It was CREATED by black people. Others CONTRIBUTED, but it was CREATED by black people. Hip-Hop has ALWAYS been apart of the black comunnity in one form of another.
Your confusing the influences of hip hop to the actual creation of it....What you think that only one man made hip hop??? SMFH like i said u wanna claim all hip hop culture but yet u dont know ya facts i aint even gunna argue with you no more kid like i said u look like a latino hurted ya feelings or something you're downplaying very little hand we had in creating hip hop...u cant just take one part and say it created all...Blacks have the majority in the creation of hip hop but latinos had a little part in the creation of it too


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 11-19-2004, 04:20 PM         #71
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*moves subject to the word: n*gga, and spics*

Personally words do nothing to me, a word is viewed as bad because that's what peole percieve it as.

My Black friends say what up my spics, etc.,... I have no problem with it

it's a different story if they say: "ya'll dirty spics" or somethin of that sort

than i'm stikin the knife in them.

Same with n*gga.

If i say what up my n*gga to one of my black friends they have no prob. with that

if i say fuk u n*gga or sumthin like that it's a different story.

13Lack i agree on some of your points...

- Latinos and Blacks, light skinned or dark skinned are different
- Hip-Hop is a Black Culture
- there is racism between ANY race that goes BOTH directions

disagree on others...

- The bond between Blacks and Latinos is VERY strong, whether you like it or not, there are always , ALWAYS going to be acceptions but for the most part, living in lower class neighborhoods, racism towards us it is a tight bond
- Though MOST, i'd say a good 90-96% of Hip Hop was created by Blacks, not ALL of it was, there was some input by Latinos, contribution even more but yes, especially graffiti art, there was contribution by Latinos

Latinos/Hispanics, whatever you wanna call us, whether we are light skinned or dark skinned such as me are neither white nor Black, we are an ethnicity of our own. I respect Blacks as well as whites and asians, but I am Latino, proud to be one too. I hope that everybody is proud of what God made them, but even more important respects other races as well


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 11-19-2004, 04:35 PM         #72
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 EmOnEyBaGz175 said
Your confusing the influences of hip hop to the actual creation of it....What you think that only one man made hip hop??? SMFH like i said u wanna claim all hip hop culture but yet u dont know ya facts i aint even gunna argue with you no more kid like i said u look like a latino hurted ya feelings or something you're downplaying very little hand we had in creating hip hop...u cant just take one part and say it created all...Blacks have the majority in the creation of hip hop but latinos had a little part in the creation of it too
Like I said Latinos CONTRIBUTED to it. Blacks created it. WHY? Because ALL the elements of Hip-Hop, except MAYBE graffitti existed BEFORE 1979(which is the widely accpeted date for the birth of hip-hop) Like i said, call and response , Copeia can be attributed to Break dancing, scatting is attributed to Bee-boxing, and the spoken word existed in the 60's maybe before. All of these things came WAAAAAAAAAY before 1979. All of these are BLACK in origin. They all came togther to form Hip-Hop. Therefore since they are all black artforms that came together to make ONE. Then blacks CREATED hip-hop PERIOD.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT LATINOS CONTRIBUTED. They did not create it.

To create something means you take NOTHING and make SOMETHING. There was always "a something". Those "somethings" are the things i stated before--Jazz, Scatting, etc etc. which were * drumroll* black artforms.

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*moves subject to the word: n*gga, and spics*

Personally words do nothing to me, a word is viewed as bad because that's what peole percieve it as.

My Black friends say what up my spics, etc.,... I have no problem with it

it's a different story if they say: "ya'll dirty spics" or somethin of that sort

than i'm stikin the knife in them.

Same with n*gga.

If i say what up my n*gga to one of my black friends they have no prob. with that

if i say fuk u n*gga or sumthin like that it's a different story.

13Lack i agree on some of your points...

- Latinos and Blacks, light skinned or dark skinned are different
- Hip-Hop is a Black Culture
- there is racism between ANY race that goes BOTH directions

disagree on others...

- The bond between Blacks and Latinos is VERY strong, whether you like it or not, there are always , ALWAYS going to be acceptions but for the most part, living in lower class neighborhoods, racism towards us it is a tight bond
- Though MOST, i'd say a good 90-96% of Hip Hop was created by Blacks, not ALL of it was, there was some input by Latinos, contribution even more but yes, especially graffiti art, there was contribution by Latinos

Latinos/Hispanics, whatever you wanna call us, whether we are light skinned or dark skinned such as me are neither white nor Black, we are an ethnicity of our own. I respect Blacks as well as whites and asians, but I am Latino, proud to be one too. I hope that everybody is proud of what God made them, but even more important respects other races as well
Yea i agree. One thing i have to ask though. You say you dont really care about Sp1ck being used by your friends, cool. How about Jay-z or Ja make a song similar to Fat Joe and uses Sp1ck throughout the entire song. Hypthetically, Lets just say the song blows up. Givin the influece hip-hop has on "Middle America". Would you be OK with people from EVERY race, including whites, using the word Sp1ck FREELY to you, and amongst themselves? And then more and more songs get made with Rappers from different races using Sp1ck in not only in reference to you, but every race. This word Sp1ck becomes widely accpeted as just a word that was flipped and made into a "new noun"

THINK ABOUT IT REAL WELL


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 11-19-2004, 06:06 PM         #74
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thinks REAL well,

i wouldn't care as long as "dirt sp1c", "fukin sp1c", "bi*ch a*s sp1c", as long as it's not used as an offensive way i have no problem with it.

n*gga, may have been used to much, i do here "bi*ch a*s n*gga" and words like that by all races including blacks, though to stop it blacks with in themselves got to stop sayin it as well.

Again a word is "bad'' or a ''curse'' word because people percieve it as being bad. a word aint gonna do sh*t to me, so as long as you are not using the word sp1c in a bad way that affends my race. I have no problem with it


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 14 years ago '04        #75
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Dammit, quit refering to latinos having black blood, that's bullshyt. Mexicans are latinos, but they don't have african roots, its a select few parts of the latino culture, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, they all have afro roots. Salsa music, prodominant in all 3 cultures is derived from the African culture. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans believe it or not, are the "******s" of the hispanic race. The latino comunity loves to down-talk us, by saying we are the ghetto and bottom feeders of the latino culture. Because they speak proper spanish and we speak ebonic spanish. Who gives a fu*k!!! Our roots are our roots, and with everyones opinions you can't take it from us. Sure, you have people dissassociating themselves with blacks. Sure there are a select few, who don't like their children dating blacks. Its like that in all cultures. See people are so fu*king close minded that if a n*gga speak spanish, ya'll counter act by saying, "don't be speaking that mexican round us". We all need to wake up, Sooner then later the n*ggaRican race will begin as we all havin babies with blacks, including myself, and so on and so forth. Bottom line tho, don't get latinos mixed up with those that have african roots. Not all of us try to capitalize on our negro roots when its convenient, cuz like I said earlier, its in our blood and we can't help it.

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